TPMS Grade 8 lunch brawl on 12/8

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - do the magnet kids get a better or separate lunch area? We are considering TPMS for our DD for the magnet program. We would prefer that she eats lunch away from all of the bad kids and gang fights.

This isn't ES. I don't think they have assigned tables by class in MS.

Have your doctor write her a note that she has severe social anxiety and needs to eat lunch in the counselor's office everyday. It's working for a student I know. Mommy has ensured no sitting with "bad kids" for her.

Wow, really? What a way to socially isolate a kid.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have more facts about the fight? Was this a gang thing? My DD is in 5th and will go to TPMS next year. Are there Crips/Bloods there? MS-13?

The other day, one of the students filmed a fight and posted it to youtube.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I actually overheard my 8th grader "face timing" with a friend back home and talking about this incident. We moved here from a different part of the country and these types of things are very much a culture shock for my kids, so she definitely had a lot to say. I'm not exactly sure how to approach the subject with her, so j think I'll just leave it be for now.

When you bought your house here, the real estate agent should have mentioned to you that MD has a long, proud tradition of fights at school, an odd cultural phenomena unknown in the other 49 states, DC, or US territories. I think most travel guides have some helpful tips for visitors on what to do if you encounter an unruly native MD eighth grader and he or she attempts to school fight you.

I know you think you're cute, but these things ARE unusual at some schools. My kids are not used to seeing fights at school. I don't know why you feel so threatened by that.

[Anonymous]

It is not a diversity issue per se, but certainly this happens much less at the private schools. Not because of wealth, but because kids at private schools tend to come from more stable (yes, better) family environments (intact families, SAHMs, less money stress, working fathers).

No, these things happen less in private school because private schools don't tolerate it. Plenty of divorced, stressed families in private schools. It doesn't happen there because you would be thrown out for this type of behavior. In MCPS, its OK. Look at the several posters that race in with 'its just teenagers' or 'this happens everywhere'. It doesn't happen everywhere, but it will happen anywhere where it is allowed and tolerated. The MCPS complacency for running a piss poor school system is amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It is not a diversity issue per se, but certainly this happens much less at the private schools. Not because of wealth, but because kids at private schools tend to come from more stable (yes, better) family environments (intact families, SAHMs, less money stress, working fathers).

No, these things happen less in private school because private schools don't tolerate it. Plenty of divorced, stressed families in private schools. It doesn't happen there because you would be thrown out for this type of behavior. In MCPS, its OK. Look at the several posters that race in with 'its just teenagers' or 'this happens everywhere'. It doesn't happen everywhere, but it will happen anywhere where it is allowed and tolerated. The MCPS complacency for running a piss poor school system is amazing.

How many present-day county-wide public school systems do you --or for that matter, most DCUM MCPS-detractors-- have experience with? The comparisons I see on this forum are consistently to private schools, small school systems such as townships in NJ or PA, or the poster's own school experience 2-3 decades ago. Let's compare apples to apples, DCUMers. MCPS is doing well compared to its peers in this region and nationally. Take into consideration both the demographic changes in the school population and the budget shortfalls, and MCPS has actually done very well. Spend some time in public schools in nearly any southern and Midwestern state with a similarly large county school system and you will be favorably impressed with what you are getting for your tax dollars

[Anonymous]

The previous post actually makes the point that part of the problem is complacency and denial. MCPS isn't doing a great job at all. MCPS just wants you to believe that you shouldn't care.

MCPS recently raised the bar for the level of offense that would yield a suspension or expulsion because too many minority students were being expelled. The new plan is to not remove and reduce discipline for students that assault others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The previous post actually makes the point that part of the problem is complacency and denial. MCPS isn't doing a great job at all. MCPS just wants you to believe that you shouldn't care.

MCPS recently raised the bar for the level of offense that would yield a suspension or expulsion because too many minority students were being expelled. The new plan is to not remove and reduce discipline for students that assault others.

The previous post claims MCPS is running a piss-poor system.

[Anonymous]

MCPS is running a piss poor system. 10:50 is referring to the previous post at 6:41 saying MCPS is the best ever. NOT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is not a diversity issue per se, but certainly this happens much less at the private schools. Not because of wealth, but because kids at private schools tend to come from more stable (yes, better) family environments (intact families, SAHMs, less money stress, working fathers).

No, these things happen less in private school because private schools don't tolerate it. Plenty of divorced, stressed families in private schools. It doesn't happen there because you would be thrown out for this type of behavior. In MCPS, its OK. Look at the several posters that race in with 'its just teenagers' or 'this happens everywhere'. It doesn't happen everywhere, but it will happen anywhere where it is allowed and tolerated. The MCPS complacency for running a piss poor school system is amazing.

How many present-day county-wide public school systems do you --or for that matter, most DCUM MCPS-detractors-- have experience with? The comparisons I see on this forum are consistently to private schools, small school systems such as townships in NJ or PA, or the poster's own school experience 2-3 decades ago. Let's compare apples to apples, DCUMers. MCPS is doing well compared to its peers in this region and nationally. Take into consideration both the demographic changes in the school population and the budget shortfalls, and MCPS has actually done very well. Spend some time in public schools in nearly any southern and Midwestern state with a similarly large county school system and you will be favorably impressed with what you are getting for your tax dollars

Not really. I have had kids in Orange County Public Schools (Orlando) and Cobb County Schools (Atlanta Suburbs) and do not think MCPS is significantly better than either of them.
MCPS has the advantage of one of the most educated, wealthy populaces in the US. Strip that away and the teaching, curriculum, and schools themselves are no better than the majority of public school districts in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is not a diversity issue per se, but certainly this happens much less at the private schools. Not because of wealth, but because kids at private schools tend to come from more stable (yes, better) family environments (intact families, SAHMs, less money stress, working fathers).

No, these things happen less in private school because private schools don't tolerate it. Plenty of divorced, stressed families in private schools. It doesn't happen there because you would be thrown out for this type of behavior. In MCPS, its OK. Look at the several posters that race in with 'its just teenagers' or 'this happens everywhere'. It doesn't happen everywhere, but it will happen anywhere where it is allowed and tolerated. The MCPS complacency for running a piss poor school system is amazing.

How many present-day county-wide public school systems do you --or for that matter, most DCUM MCPS-detractors-- have experience with? The comparisons I see on this forum are consistently to private schools, small school systems such as townships in NJ or PA, or the poster's own school experience 2-3 decades ago. Let's compare apples to apples, DCUMers. MCPS is doing well compared to its peers in this region and nationally. Take into consideration both the demographic changes in the school population and the budget shortfalls, and MCPS has actually done very well. Spend some time in public schools in nearly any southern and Midwestern state with a similarly large county school system and you will be favorably impressed with what you are getting for your tax dollars

I was much more impressed with Wake County Public Schools in North Carolina and do not understand the love affair with MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, I would be terrified if my kid saw rx and designer drugs being sold in school. The thought of my kids being exposed to these drugs is more terrifying than the thought of them witnessing a few fights.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is not a diversity issue per se, but certainly this happens much less at the private schools. Not because of wealth, but because kids at private schools tend to come from more stable (yes, better) family environments (intact families, SAHMs, less money stress, working fathers).

No, these things happen less in private school because private schools don't tolerate it. Plenty of divorced, stressed families in private schools. It doesn't happen there because you would be thrown out for this type of behavior. In MCPS, its OK. Look at the several posters that race in with 'its just teenagers' or 'this happens everywhere'. It doesn't happen everywhere, but it will happen anywhere where it is allowed and tolerated. The MCPS complacency for running a piss poor school system is amazing.

How many present-day county-wide public school systems do you --or for that matter, most DCUM MCPS-detractors-- have experience with? The comparisons I see on this forum are consistently to private schools, small school systems such as townships in NJ or PA, or the poster's own school experience 2-3 decades ago. Let's compare apples to apples, DCUMers. MCPS is doing well compared to its peers in this region and nationally. Take into consideration both the demographic changes in the school population and the budget shortfalls, and MCPS has actually done very well. Spend some time in public schools in nearly any southern and Midwestern state with a similarly large county school system and you will be favorably impressed with what you are getting for your tax dollars

I was much more impressed with Wake County Public Schools in North Carolina and do not understand the love affair with MCPS.

At least WCPS is similar in composition to MCPS, but most of the school districts being compared to MCPS are not similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I would be terrified if my kid saw rx and designer drugs being sold in school. The thought of my kids being exposed to these drugs is more terrifying than the thought of them witnessing a few fights.

+1

Not sure what your point is. I never saw any of these in private, nor have my kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I would be terrified if my kid saw rx and designer drugs being sold in school. The thought of my kids being exposed to these drugs is more terrifying than the thought of them witnessing a few fights.

+1

Not sure what your point is. I never saw any of these in private, nor have my kids.

My DD's private doesn't have drugs, but my private in the '80s had pot, cocaine, and booze. It wasn't a lot of the students, but there was a well-known group whose parents were absentee and let them have parties after school every day. So these girls (it was an all girls' school) would bring their party favors to school with them.

A friend teaches at a tony Midwestern private. A couple years ago, there was a "Skittles party" on campus during Spirit Week. Parents had to be called to pick up their high kids. One mom showed up basically drunk to pick up her twins. EMS had to be called for all three of them. The husband/father gave a sizeable donation to the annual fund to hush things up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I would be terrified if my kid saw rx and designer drugs being sold in school. The thought of my kids being exposed to these drugs is more terrifying than the thought of them witnessing a few fights.

+1

Not sure what your point is. I never saw any of these in private, nor have my kids.

My DD's private doesn't have drugs, but my private in the '80s had pot, cocaine, and booze. It wasn't a lot of the students, but there was a well-known group whose parents were absentee and let them have parties after school every day. So these girls (it was an all girls' school) would bring their party favors to school with them.

A friend teaches at a tony Midwestern private. A couple years ago, there was a "Skittles party" on campus during Spirit Week. Parents had to be called to pick up their high kids. One mom showed up basically drunk to pick up her twins. EMS had to be called for all three of them. The husband/father gave a sizeable donation to the annual fund to hush things up.

? I'm sure your DD's private has drugs. It's just the kids there don't go around telling their parents about the drugs. Please don't stick your head in the sand about it.