Desperately seeking Beauvoir admission

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are the names of the other local schools with similar philosophies?

St. Pats, NPS.

You should definitely consider St. Pats. Their nursery program is warm, welcoming and play based like Beauvoir. Remember Pre-k 4 is a heavy sibling and faculty family acceptance year. If you are wait listed, apply for K.

This year if I had to estimate I would say about half of the PreK class is siblings or faculty kids. So that means about 30-32 kids were
Regular admits. Conversely, they add an entire class in K admitting about 21 kids, and typically those kids won't be siblings or faculty kids. Looking at the numbers I would say a non-affiliated child's chances of being admitted in PreK are still higher than in K.

30 sibling/faculty kids?? Thank God you don't have to estimate for a living (you would be broke and out of a job!)

I don't understand what you are saying. Her estimate seems solid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the names of the other local schools with similar philosophies?

St. Pats, NPS.

You should definitely consider St. Pats. Their nursery program is warm, welcoming and play based like Beauvoir. Remember Pre-k 4 is a heavy sibling and faculty family acceptance year. If you are wait listed, apply for K.

This year if I had to estimate I would say about half of the PreK class is siblings or faculty kids. So that means about 30-32 kids were
Regular admits. Conversely, they add an entire class in K admitting about 21 kids, and typically those kids won't be siblings or faculty kids. Looking at the numbers I would say a non-affiliated child's chances of being admitted in PreK are still higher than in K.

30 sibling/faculty kids?? Thank God you don't have to estimate for a living (you would be broke and out of a job!)

??? Beauvoir admits approximately 63 kids in PreK. This year they directory shows 62 kids. If half of the class are siblings of older kids and/or kids of faculty/staff, that means about 30-31 kids admitted are non-affiliated. 30-31 non-affiliated kids admitted in PreK would be higher than than the 21 kids they will admit in K even if they are all non-affiliated kids.

Not sure what is wrong with my math here. Admittedly I'm a lawyer and numbers isn't my strong suit, but analysis is. So please if I've crunched the numbers wrong please show me where.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the names of the other local schools with similar philosophies?

St. Pats, NPS.

You should definitely consider St. Pats. Their nursery program is warm, welcoming and play based like Beauvoir. Remember Pre-k 4 is a heavy sibling and faculty family acceptance year. If you are wait listed, apply for K.

This year if I had to estimate I would say about half of the PreK class is siblings or faculty kids. So that means about 30-32 kids were
Regular admits. Conversely, they add an entire class in K admitting about 21 kids, and typically those kids won't be siblings or faculty kids. Looking at the numbers I would say a non-affiliated child's chances of being admitted in PreK are still higher than in K.

30 sibling/faculty kids?? Thank God you don't have to estimate for a living (you would be broke and out of a job!)

I don't understand what you are saying. Her estimate seems solid.

Agreed. I think the PP was questioning the calculation that half of the PK kids are either siblings or faculty kids. However, I think that's a pretty good estimate, especially given that parents of siblings are told that they will receive preferential consideration only for Pre-K. Not so for K.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not a troll. My DC (who I was speaking of) will be going into K and I have an older DC going into 2nd grade. I'm very familiar with the school. If you want to actually believe there are no comparisons made and people don't speak of which kids are advanced then you are delusional. No the school does not promote competitiveness, but they also can't prevent parents and other from chatting about their observations. My DC can read, but I would not call it fluently or for comprehension. Nonetheless, DC is not one of the many that can already read. DC is one of the few that can.

Perhaps your incoming K "genius" child can read (many PKs can), even at the laughably inflated level that you are suggesting, but there is simply no way that your special little one is comprehending a thing if you are providing "3rd grade" material. It's developmentally impossible.

Not PP, but it's entirely possible. Come over and meet my kid. She's a freak, we didn't do anything to create it ( other than just have a bunch of books around and go the library all the time.). It's not like she had to grow a third leg to read well. That's what I would call "developmentally impossible."

We know, PP. It's Washington, where all children are astronomically "above average."

What is it with this need to pretend that all kids are average? It's like the dumbing down of America is the in thing these days. If a parent says their child is advance it's like the kiss of death. Some kids are more advanced than others. Period. The person who originally posted about their DC being advanced wasn't saying it to brag, but was using it as a point of reference that sending your child to an elite school for entrance to Beauvoir was not necessary.

But I suppose it would have been better had she said "my child is average, nothing special and was admitted." That would have been acceptable to all of the critics.

You totally missed the point, of course.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am not a troll. My DC (who I was speaking of) will be going into K and I have an older DC going into 2nd grade. I'm very familiar with the school. If you want to actually believe there are no comparisons made and people don't speak of which kids are advanced then you are delusional. No the school does not promote competitiveness, but they also can't prevent parents and other from chatting about their observations. My DC can read, but I would not call it fluently or for comprehension. Nonetheless, DC is not one of the many that can already read. DC is one of the few that can. [/quote]

Perhaps your incoming K "genius" child can read (many PKs can), even at the laughably inflated level that you are suggesting, but there is simply no way that your special little one is comprehending a thing if you are providing "3rd grade" material. It's developmentally impossible. [/quote]

Not PP, but it's entirely possible. Come over and meet my kid. She's a freak, we didn't do anything to create it ( other than just have a bunch of books around and go the library all the time.). It's not like she had to grow a third leg to read well. That's what I would call "developmentally impossible."[/quote]

We know, PP. It's Washington, where all children are astronomically "above average."[/quote]

What is it with this need to pretend that all kids are average? It's like the dumbing down of America is the in thing these days. If a parent says their child is advance it's like the kiss of death. Some kids are more advanced than others. Period. The person who originally posted about their DC being advanced wasn't saying it to brag, but was using it as a point of reference that sending your child to an elite school for entrance to Beauvoir was not necessary.

But I suppose it would have been better had she said "my child is average, nothing special and was admitted." That would have been acceptable to all of the critics. [/quote]

You totally missed the point, of course. [/quote]

Na, you missed the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the names of the other local schools with similar philosophies?

St. Pats, NPS.

You should definitely consider St. Pats. Their nursery program is warm, welcoming and play based like Beauvoir. Remember Pre-k 4 is a heavy sibling and faculty family acceptance year. If you are wait listed, apply for K.

This year if I had to estimate I would say about half of the PreK class is siblings or faculty kids. So that means about 30-32 kids were
Regular admits. Conversely, they add an entire class in K admitting about 21 kids, and typically those kids won't be siblings or faculty kids. Looking at the numbers I would say a non-affiliated child's chances of being admitted in PreK are still higher than in K.

30 sibling/faculty kids?? Thank God you don't have to estimate for a living (you would be broke and out of a job!)

I don't understand what you are saying. Her estimate seems solid.

Agreed. I think the PP was questioning the calculation that half of the PK kids are either siblings or faculty kids. However, I think that's a pretty good estimate, especially given that parents of siblings are told that they will receive preferential consideration only for Pre-K. Not so for K.

Admittedly, I don't know if the actual number of siblings/faculty kids admitted into the PreK class is exactly 50%. I will say based on the few events we have had thus far it is a fairly high number. Nonetheless, the poster with the snarky comment missed my point which is that EVEN if half of the kids admitted are siblings/faculty kids, a child's odd of being admitted to Beauvoir is still higher in PreK than K. Beauvoir estimates receiving 100-120 applications for their K class. That's roughly the exact same number they get for their PreK class. So it's basic math, the total percentage of kids admitted in PreK will be higher than the total percentage of kids admitted into K. Now if you are comparing a child's chances of being admitted to Beauvoir for K over say Maret (where they don't have PreK) I would agree that you have a better chance at Beauvoir as some of the Maret K spots will be going to siblings and faculty kids. However, if you compare Beauvoir to any other top private school with a PreK the chances of being admitted to any of them are roughly the same.

[Anonymous]

Beauvoir is okay but be aware it oversells itself as a gateway to St. Albans and NCS. They'll give you the impression that it's a done deal from the start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir is okay but be aware it oversells itself as a gateway to St. Albans and NCS. They'll give you the impression that it's a done deal from the start.

Wow. That's pretty sour grapes. Beauvoir IS a gateway to STA and NCS. However, the admissions team does not tell you it's a done deal from the start and anyone who has any inkling of how the process works would know that.

STA and NCS are NOT for every child. They are quite academically competitive, and their admission teams have to believe that your child can hack it there. That makes sense. It creates nothing but misery all around if a child who is not capable of keeping up with the academics is placed in either of these schools.

Oh, and any behavioral issues -- on the part of the child or their parents -- can lead to not being admitted, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir is okay but be aware it oversells itself as a gateway to St. Albans and NCS. They'll give you the impression that it's a done deal from the start.

Wow. That's pretty sour grapes. Beauvoir IS a gateway to STA and NCS. However, the admissions team does not tell you it's a done deal from the start and anyone who has any inkling of how the process works would know that.

STA and NCS are NOT for every child. They are quite academically competitive, and their admission teams have to believe that your child can hack it there. That makes sense. It creates nothing but misery all around if a child who is not capable of keeping up with the academics is placed in either of these schools.

Oh, and any behavioral issues -- on the part of the child or their parents -- can lead to not being admitted, too.

+ 1 We are current family. We definitely expect a preference for the cathedral schools but a shoe in, no way no how. We've loved the school thus far by the way. Very nurturing, responsive, and engaged teachers.

[Anonymous]

No advice other than to just be yourself, and don't let your DC pick up on your anxiety. Our DD was admitted with no connections, no legacy, no money, no diversity etc. They know what they are looking for, and there is not much you can do. We were quiet, polite, and basically tried to stay under the radar. We figured there were enough people trying to get "FaceTime" with Ms. Hartigan, and we didn't need to be one of them.

[Anonymous]

I think it helps if you are clear WHY Beauvoir is your first choice. We fell in love with Beauvoir's philosophy and made that clear in our application, noting specific aspects of the philosophy and teaching approach we were enthusiastic about.

They also like parents who are really into their children and put the child's needs first. I think that Ms. Hartigan has a deep personal love of children, which shines through so clearly when she's interacting with them. if there's one thing that almost all Beauvoir parents share, it's that they are unusually crazy about their kids. Yes, there are exceptions (so sad to see), but they are relatively few.

And, as with all private schools, they want people who will contribute to the vibrancy of the school community, not parents who just write checks and end their engagement there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it helps if you are clear WHY Beauvoir is your first choice. We fell in love with Beauvoir's philosophy and made that clear in our application, noting specific aspects of the philosophy and teaching approach we were enthusiastic about.

They also like parents who are really into their children and put the child's needs first. I think that Ms. Hartigan has a deep personal love of children, which shines through so clearly when she's interacting with them. if there's one thing that almost all Beauvoir parents share, it's that they are unusually crazy about their kids. Yes, there are exceptions (so sad to see), but they are relatively few.

And, as with all private schools, they want people who will contribute to the vibrancy of the school community, not parents who just write checks and end their engagement there.

Is this for real? Non-Beauvoir parents are not crazy about their kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it helps if you are clear WHY Beauvoir is your first choice. We fell in love with Beauvoir's philosophy and made that clear in our application, noting specific aspects of the philosophy and teaching approach we were enthusiastic about.

They also like parents who are really into their children and put the child's needs first. I think that Ms. Hartigan has a deep personal love of children, which shines through so clearly when she's interacting with them. if there's one thing that almost all Beauvoir parents share, it's that they are unusually crazy about their kids. Yes, there are exceptions (so sad to see), but they are relatively few.

And, as with all private schools, they want people who will contribute to the vibrancy of the school community, not parents who just write checks and end their engagement there.

Is this for real? Non-Beauvoir parents are not crazy about their kids?

It seems you would benefit from a class in logic. The post says that a trait Beauvoir parents share is that they "are unusually crazy about their children." Because group A shares quality X, it does not follow that quality X is limited to group A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir is okay but be aware it oversells itself as a gateway to St. Albans and NCS. They'll give you the impression that it's a done deal from the start.

My observations. At least 3/4 of the Beauvior boys go to STA. The ones who don't are usually the more gentle boys, or the disruptive dim whittled ones who got into Beauvoir for reasons other than merit.

About half of the Beauvoir girls go onto NCS. The ones who did not had parents who simply could not ignore all the mean girl anecdotes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it helps if you are clear WHY Beauvoir is your first choice. We fell in love with Beauvoir's philosophy and made that clear in our application, noting specific aspects of the philosophy and teaching approach we were enthusiastic about.

They also like parents who are really into their children and put the child's needs first. I think that Ms. Hartigan has a deep personal love of children, which shines through so clearly when she's interacting with them. if there's one thing that almost all Beauvoir parents share, it's that they are unusually crazy about their kids. Yes, there are exceptions (so sad to see), but they are relatively few.

And, as with all private schools, they want people who will contribute to the vibrancy of the school community, not parents who just write checks and end their engagement there.

Is this for real? Non-Beauvoir parents are not crazy about their kids? [/quote


??? I don't want my sentiment to be misconstrued, so I won't be sarcastic, even though I really want to be. 99% of parents are crazy about their kids. 99% of parents deeply love their kids and would do anything in the world for their kid. To think that Beauvoir has isolated a perfect contingent of loving parents is a false and hurtful construct. of course, since you have to pass Ms. Hartigan's inspection to be a part of the community, even if you weren't a perfect parent, you better know how to fake it when you are on campus.

I can't help it, the sarcasm is back. do you think PAYING for an education means you are more crazy for your kid than I am? All it means is that you have disposable funds and are particularly susceptible to glossy marketing tactics by the marketing and development offices of this school.