I'm pretty dissapointed in D's not challenging HRC.

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Anonymous wrote:Nominating HRC will make the odds of a Republican winning the presidency an almost foregone conclusion. I say this not with glee but in sadness because the country would be better off with a Democrat as president.

She is damaged beyond redemption.


Lol. She beats any republican clown in the field with her eyes closed.


Ludicrous!

Her unfavorables are sky high and the polls in three swing states that came out today show several Repubican candidates beating her.


Trump running as an independent won't help.


How so? Trump won't capture any Hillary votes. He'd only draw from the conservative base.


Yes,mwon't help the republic cans.
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Anonymous wrote:The saddest part for me as someone who wants to see a Democrat in the White House after the next election is that our choices are between a woman who is dishonest and has declining credibility among both Democrats and independents, a senator who comes across as an aging hippie and a VP who is gaffe prone. BTW, I like Sanders and Biden.

Can we not nominate someone who would actually stand a decent chance of winning against a Republican field that is clown show? How about someone like Mark Warner?


Hillary will win against any Republican in the field now. Period. That is why the Republicans are so afraid of her.


Hillary will lose against a Republican nominee unless they end up with someone who is off the wall - and that includes Trump. You don't realize the extent of antipathy that moderates and independents have against Hillary. i know at least half a dozen fervent Democrats who have said they will not vote for her under any circumstances and will just sit out the election.

She is vulnerable on so many fronts especially when it comes to her credibility and trustworthiness. All we need is for the Justice department to start an investigation based on the recommendations of the two inspector generals and she will likely be toast irrespective of the final outcome.


I agree, but the funny thing is that my sister, who is a moderate Republicsn (if such a thing still exists) says she would consider voting for Hillary, which surprised me. She recently read HC's most recent book and despite all her controversies, Hilkary come across as smart and capable.
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Anonymous wrote:The saddest part for me as someone who wants to see a Democrat in the White House after the next election is that our choices are between a woman who is dishonest and has declining credibility among both Democrats and independents, a senator who comes across as an aging hippie and a VP who is gaffe prone. BTW, I like Sanders and Biden.

Can we not nominate someone who would actually stand a decent chance of winning against a Republican field that is clown show? How about someone like Mark Warner?


Hillary will win against any Republican in the field now. Period. That is why the Republicans are so afraid of her.


Hillary will lose against a Republican nominee unless they end up with someone who is off the wall - and that includes Trump. You don't realize the extent of antipathy that moderates and independents have against Hillary. i know at least half a dozen fervent Democrats who have said they will not vote for her under any circumstances and will just sit out the election.

She is vulnerable on so many fronts especially when it comes to her credibility and trustworthiness. All we need is for the Justice department to start an investigation based on the recommendations of the two inspector generals and she will likely be toast irrespective of the final outcome.


I agree, but the funny thing is that my sister, who is a moderate Republicsn (if such a thing still exists) says she would consider voting for Hillary, which surprised me. She recently read HC's most recent book and despite all her controversies, Hilkary come across as smart and capable.


I would think lying is more important that smart and capable, but that's just me.
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Anonymous wrote:The saddest part for me as someone who wants to see a Democrat in the White House after the next election is that our choices are between a woman who is dishonest and has declining credibility among both Democrats and independents, a senator who comes across as an aging hippie and a VP who is gaffe prone. BTW, I like Sanders and Biden.

Can we not nominate someone who would actually stand a decent chance of winning against a Republican field that is clown show? How about someone like Mark Warner?


Hillary will win against any Republican in the field now. Period. That is why the Republicans are so afraid of her.


Hillary will lose against a Republican nominee unless they end up with someone who is off the wall - and that includes Trump. You don't realize the extent of antipathy that moderates and independents have against Hillary. i know at least half a dozen fervent Democrats who have said they will not vote for her under any circumstances and will just sit out the election.

She is vulnerable on so many fronts especially when it comes to her credibility and trustworthiness. All we need is for the Justice department to start an investigation based on the recommendations of the two inspector generals and she will likely be toast irrespective of the final outcome.


I agree, but the funny thing is that my sister, who is a moderate Republicsn (if such a thing still exists) says she would consider voting for Hillary, which surprised me. She recently read HC's most recent book and despite all her controversies, Hilkary come across as smart and capable.


I would think lying is more important that smart and capable, but that's just me.


Was merely reporting an anecdote that was interesting to me but I can pass that onto her if you like.
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Anonymous wrote:All of you posters on the HRC bandwagon: I suspect OP is like me and other Dems on this thread. We certainly appreciate the need to vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election and will do so even if we have to hold our noses in the voting booth. Our concern is that many other voters to whom politics is not an obsession or who don't consider themselves dyed in the wool Democrats will vote for the Republican or not vote at all. Duh.


Well, maybe they are free thinking individuals.
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Anonymous wrote:The saddest part for me as someone who wants to see a Democrat in the White House after the next election is that our choices are between a woman who is dishonest and has declining credibility among both Democrats and independents, a senator who comes across as an aging hippie and a VP who is gaffe prone. BTW, I like Sanders and Biden.

Can we not nominate someone who would actually stand a decent chance of winning against a Republican field that is clown show? How about someone like Mark Warner?


Hillary will win against any Republican in the field now. Period. That is why the Republicans are so afraid of her.


Hillary will lose against a Republican nominee unless they end up with someone who is off the wall - and that includes Trump. You don't realize the extent of antipathy that moderates and independents have against Hillary. i know at least half a dozen fervent Democrats who have said they will not vote for her under any circumstances and will just sit out the election.

She is vulnerable on so many fronts especially when it comes to her credibility and trustworthiness. All we need is for the Justice department to start an investigation based on the recommendations of the two inspector generals and she will likely be toast irrespective of the final outcome.


I agree, but the funny thing is that my sister, who is a moderate Republicsn (if such a thing still exists) says she would consider voting for Hillary, which surprised me. She recently read HC's most recent book and despite all her controversies, Hilkary come across as smart and capable.


I would think lying is more important that smart and capable, but that's just me.


If you have a problem with lying then that rules out most of the Republican candidates as well.
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As a moderate, I think Clinton is the perfect choice among all these candidates. Smart, level-headed, gets things done. She seems like she'd be an adult as President.

The Republicans seem to eat their moderates, so all will die off before the primaries even arrive. The remaining Republicans act like children. Jen Bush has some potential to act like an adult based on past history, but he seems to be getting less mature with each passing campaign comment.
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Anonymous wrote:The saddest part for me as someone who wants to see a Democrat in the White House after the next election is that our choices are between a woman who is dishonest and has declining credibility among both Democrats and independents, a senator who comes across as an aging hippie and a VP who is gaffe prone. BTW, I like Sanders and Biden.

Can we not nominate someone who would actually stand a decent chance of winning against a Republican field that is clown show? How about someone like Mark Warner?


Hillary will win against any Republican in the field now. Period. That is why the Republicans are so afraid of her.


Hillary will lose against a Republican nominee unless they end up with someone who is off the wall - and that includes Trump. You don't realize the extent of antipathy that moderates and independents have against Hillary. i know at least half a dozen fervent Democrats who have said they will not vote for her under any circumstances and will just sit out the election.

She is vulnerable on so many fronts especially when it comes to her credibility and trustworthiness. All we need is for the Justice department to start an investigation based on the recommendations of the two inspector generals and she will likely be toast irrespective of the final outcome.


I agree, but the funny thing is that my sister, who is a moderate Republicsn (if such a thing still exists) says she would consider voting for Hillary, which surprised me. She recently read HC's most recent book and despite all her controversies, Hilkary come across as smart and capable.


I would think lying is more important that smart and capable, but that's just me.


LOL Stop watching Fox "News". The whole lying thing is a product of Fox news and nothing more.
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Anonymous wrote:All of you posters on the HRC bandwagon: I suspect OP is like me and other Dems on this thread. We certainly appreciate the need to vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election and will do so even if we have to hold our noses in the voting booth. Our concern is that many other voters to whom politics is not an obsession or who don't consider themselves dyed in the wool Democrats will vote for the Republican or not vote at all. Duh.


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You nailed it! The Democratic base will vote for HRC or anyone the party nominates just as surely as the Republican base will vote for Trump or anyone else the party nominates. But the base does not decide an election - it is the independents and moderates who decide elections.


No, it is the independents and moderates in a handful of swing states who decide elections. And HRC's numbers in those states are not favorable at this time, 15+ months before the election.
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Hey, I agree FOX news is biased but so is CNN and all the other news forecasts. This isn't Fox News, this is the IG for the federal govt, she is a lawyer and ran the State dept, the fact that she would use her own server is unbelievable and shows how she disregards govt security rules and procedures, thinks she is above the rules and they don't apply to her and then the lying and deceptive word choices in her comments, sorry would love a women president and I am a democrat, but not her. If the election were today, I would vote for Trump over her.

Instead of Kerry/Obama sitting at the table with Iran giving in to whatever Iran wants, Trump would bring in a sharp and shrewed negotiator, the U.S. would have the 4 hostages back and Iran would know "we are not going to take it" as the trump exit song for his speech says.
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Anonymous wrote:All of you posters on the HRC bandwagon: I suspect OP is like me and other Dems on this thread. We certainly appreciate the need to vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election and will do so even if we have to hold our noses in the voting booth. Our concern is that many other voters to whom politics is not an obsession or who don't consider themselves dyed in the wool Democrats will vote for the Republican or not vote at all. Duh.


Well, maybe they are free thinking individuals.


What if they are? Does' change my point in the least.
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Anonymous wrote:All of you posters on the HRC bandwagon: I suspect OP is like me and other Dems on this thread. We certainly appreciate the need to vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election and will do so even if we have to hold our noses in the voting booth. Our concern is that many other voters to whom politics is not an obsession or who don't consider themselves dyed in the wool Democrats will vote for the Republican or not vote at all. Duh.


Well, maybe they are free thinking individuals.


What if they are? Does' change my point in the least.


Doesn't change my point in the least. Sorry, typo.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey, I agree FOX news is biased but so is CNN and all the other news forecasts. This isn't Fox News, this is the IG for the federal govt, she is a lawyer and ran the State dept, the fact that she would use her own server is unbelievable and shows how she disregards govt security rules and procedures, thinks she is above the rules and they don't apply to her and then the lying and deceptive word choices in her comments, sorry would love a women president and I am a democrat, but not her. If the election were today, I would vote for Trump over her.

Instead of Kerry/Obama sitting at the table with Iran giving in to whatever Iran wants, Trump would bring in a sharp and shrewed negotiator, the U.S. would have the 4 hostages back and Iran would know "we are not going to take it" as the trump exit song for his speech says.


As someone who has posted that I would not vote for Hillary under any circumstances although I am quite liberal and voted for Obama two times, the bolded section pretty much revealed that you are masquerading as a Democrat. I don't know a single Democrat who would vote for Trump and the spiel about him being a shrewd negotiator who would have made the Iranians cave pretty much confirms it.

Don't get me wrong, Trump has touched a nerve with his comments about illegals and also about other politicians being bought and paid for by lobbyists and I don't for a second believe that those who support him on the issue of illegals are mostly racists but having said this it still does not make him someone a Democrat would vote for.
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Anonymous wrote:The saddest part for me as someone who wants to see a Democrat in the White House after the next election is that our choices are between a woman who is dishonest and has declining credibility among both Democrats and independents, a senator who comes across as an aging hippie and a VP who is gaffe prone. BTW, I like Sanders and Biden.

Can we not nominate someone who would actually stand a decent chance of winning against a Republican field that is clown show? How about someone like Mark Warner?


Hillary will win against any Republican in the field now. Period. That is why the Republicans are so afraid of her.


Hillary will lose against a Republican nominee unless they end up with someone who is off the wall - and that includes Trump. You don't realize the extent of antipathy that moderates and independents have against Hillary. i know at least half a dozen fervent Democrats who have said they will not vote for her under any circumstances and will just sit out the election.

She is vulnerable on so many fronts especially when it comes to her credibility and trustworthiness. All we need is for the Justice department to start an investigation based on the recommendations of the two inspector generals and she will likely be toast irrespective of the final outcome.


I agree, but the funny thing is that my sister, who is a moderate Republicsn (if such a thing still exists) says she would consider voting for Hillary, which surprised me. She recently read HC's most recent book and despite all her controversies, Hilkary come across as smart and capable.



LOL, my thought too -- Jeb and Scott Walker have their own email controversies. And every other assertion by Trump is a lie, including those about his net worth.

And alleged former Clinton/Obama voter supporting Trump, give it up, no one believes you, unless of course, you've had a traumatic brain injury since the last election.
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Anonymous wrote:BTW, there are many of us who want HRC and would vote for her regardless of whomever else was running.


And there are quite a few Democrats and independents who would not vote for her ..... who voted for Obama and Bill Clinton.


This. Didn't vote for her last time, and I won't this time.


Another Dem who absolutely will not vote for her. If she is nominated, I will vote against her which unfortunately means voting Republican.
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