Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?
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Anonymous
Your guesses belie your ignorance. What type of research into vaccine safety have you done? Please, post it, all of it. |
Anonymous
On what evidence do you base this statement? Are you confusing a lack of vaccination with an actual infection with the diseases vaccines are supposed to prevent? An unvaccinated child can only infect another child with a VPD if s/he is infected with that disease. If she's not infected with that VPD (say measles), how can she infect a child with cancer? Your logic eludes me. |
Anonymous
Whoa, that's hilarious. To the PP who taught her MD "something they didn't know." The poor MD probably realized they were dealing with a crazy and just wanted you out of their office as quickly as possible. I can just picture someone showing up with a pile of articles they printed off from a Google search and expecting the doctor to sit there and listen to a lecture on vaccines, the doctor nodding away to get you to stop and promising they will read your "research" ( articles you printed out, you didn't do the research) . "Yes, why thank you so much, you have sure taught me a lot today" as you are being ushered to the door |
Anonymous
+100000 |
Anonymous
And you're worried about Hep B because of all the needle-sharing going on in preschool? The unprotected sex? |
Anonymous
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Depends on the school. My kid is fully vaccinated but attended a school with kids I know had never had any vaccinations. This didn't seem to be a problem for the school (although honestly, it made me uncomfortable).
I would talk with the school about this. You may need to accelerate your vaccination schedule (which, especially at this age, should not be a huge deal). The only issue might be if you can't complete one of the series of vaccines in time due to the timing (i.e. you need two or three boosters after to reach full immunity but can't get them until 6 months later or something). In that case, though, I think most schools would be fine with seeing that you are in the process of vaccinating. Most preschools probably won't consider it a huge deal, but it's good to check. |
Anonymous
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OP,
Ignore the ignorant and rabid pro-CDC schedule vaxxers on this list. Both my pediatrician and my GP recommended spreading out of vaccines. I have a background in the biological sciences and a family history of autoimmune disorders. I did extensive research on the various vaccines on the CDC's list, and decided to delay all vaccinations until after age 2 (when myelination is almost complete and there is a more effective blood-brain barrier), with live vaccines delayed until age 4.5. By age 5, our kids were all caught up on vaccines, but we delayed in order to avoid any autoimmune reactions. Kids do sometimes have severe, violent, and life-threatening reactions to vaccines, which is why the federal liability limit for vaccine injury is limited to $100,000. In any case, OP, I would strongly advise you NOT report on vaccines obtained if you are going to use a religious exemption. Why? Because reporting some vaccinations can be the basis for challenging your religious exemption. We simply submitted the exemption. When you do that, no reporting is required because the assumption is that no vaccination is being done. Once our children were up-to-date on their vaccines, we submitted the full record. Hope this helps. |
Anonymous
Look, I have no problem with people who choose not to vaccinate or to delay vaccination. I agree they are responsible for what's best for their children. And I think that what is best for the school population (you know, everyone else's children) is that any unvaccinated or delayed vaccination child should not be enrolled in a public school. If they are on a delayed schedule red-shirt them and they start school the next school year when they are caught up. Those who opt to decline vaccination for religious reasons should either be homeschooled or be enrolled in parochial schools that support the religious exemption. But I don't believe that any unvaccinated children should be admitted into a public school. There are many children in public schools that have health issues or who have family members (including infant siblings) with health issues that a carrier child could infect that make unvaccinated children a significant public health issue. |
Anonymous
Your post exemplifies the self-centeredness and ignorance of the vaxxers who think the CDC schedule should be inviolate. First, some kids have health issues that either require spacing and/or delay of vaccines. Second, some of the vaccines are for illnesses that most Americans have a very remote chance of actually catching. Finally, you obviously don't know much about viral carriage, because even someone who is vaccinated can be a carrier. No vaccine is 100% effective. And, some reduce carriage rates. Others do not. There are different serotypes of viruses -- and they can mutate -- so even if you were immunized against one serotype, you may get another and still get sick. Most of the vaccines on the CDC's list were not given prior to 1980. School-age kids were given MMR, Polio, and Diptheria, Pertussis, and Tetanus. That was it. And somehow the population of advanced industrial countries managed to stay pretty healthy. Rotovirus, which was first introduced in 1998, was taken off the market twice because of safety issues. Vaccines are developed and promoted by pharmaceutical companies. They are hugely profitable. They are not always safe, and certainly not safe for every member of the population. In general, we have valued herd immunity over individual health. While that's great for the herd, that's not great for the minority of kids who have strong reactions to vaccinations. And, despite the medical establishment's orthodoxy that vaccine reactions are rare, they're not. |
Anonymous
Oh the irony, that a anti-vaxxer should call a vaxxer self-centered. The entire concept of the individual's health needs taking precedence over the herd immunity and the protection of the general population is the very epitome of self-centeredness. You are saying that the needs of the individual child with a health issue preempt the needs of the general community. I agree that the individual's health needs are extremely important and that the parents need to do what is best for their child's health. I do not believe, however, that that child with a health condition that requires delayed vaccination or a family with a religious exemption has a greater right to public education than the general community has a right to a healthy school environment. Take the child with the health issue out of the public school. Find alternative education for that child until the child meets the general health standard that has seen the near eradication of a host of communicable diseases that used to plague the US. |
Anonymous
Hep A is spread oral/fecal, meaning that it can be spread if someone with Hep A goes to the bathroom, doesn't properly wash their hands, and prepares your food. It is a real problem in restaurant workers especially, as the population of food preparers, dishwashers, etc is typically an under the table, poor/no documentation, transient type of job requiring little to no skill or background checks, and therefore attracts a lot of people in and out of the legal system, undocumented workers. Where is the highest concentration of Hep A? Prisons. What is the most likely employment of prisoners up release? The food industry. You have no idea who is preparing your food, even fast food, pizza delivery, prepped food at the grocery store. You have no idea the status of parents ,grandparents , aunts and uncles, the nanny's boyfriend that she begged last minute to help her with snack day. To risk that over and over throughout a child's life is poor reasoning. |
Anonymous
Bullshit. You googled some things, got some Mercola and Dr Sears hits and believed that bs over credible, proven science. You did no research. And contrary to your belief, you are not smarter and do not know more than the CDC, the AAP and the general medical community. Unless you go to some woo doctor, there is now a note in your child's medical records that indicate the type of parent you are so they know how to deal with you in the future. |
Anonymous
Your self-centered ness is about your inability to respect any opinion but your own. Like many insecure, frightened people, the only way you can feel "safe" is by demanding everyone has to conform to "conventional wisdom." I have a background in health care, as well as the biological sciences, and most people would be surprised at how medical orthodoxy is developed -- mostly by ignoring and suppressing evidence to the contrary and threatening doctors who disagree with the revocation of their license. Our Ped and GP are both highly respected in their profession, both are pro-spacing and/or delay of some vaccines. Both agree that some vaccines are not critical. And both have been threatened by the AMA. I also work in government, and know how flawed and political health care policy-making can be. The vaccine orthodoxy is supported by big Pharma and the AMA. -- both of whom wield enormous lobbying power. Pharmaceutical companies have been known to regularly place profits above public interest, and yet there is a federally imposed liability limit for all vaccine injuries. If vaccine injuries are so rare, why does the medical profession have to be protected by limitation of liability, especially when the burden of proof for vaccine injury is quite high? By your logic, never should an individual child's needs come before the herds when it comes to the use of a public resource, i.e.public education. By your logic, children with any special needs should be homeschooled, because their need for special accommodations takes away from "the general community." |
Anonymous
OP here. Thanks for your response. I appreciate your thoughts on the exemption. Just curious, did you decide not to do any particular vaccines at all? We are not doing Hep A and are waiting on Hep B until teenage years, pediatrician was fully in agreement on that. That's interesting that you waited until 2 to start any. We started at 2 months but spaced them out. |
Anonymous
Do you actually have a religious objection to public health and safety or did you lie because you are selfish and poorly educated? |