Delayed vax schedule and preschool forms?

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Anonymous wrote:We just signed the religious waiver and it was no big deal but we were spacing them out over a few months, not years.

So you signed the religious waiver even though you were getting most vaccines, just not on the schedule?

We got all the vaccines and are now up to date - the only one I significantly delayed was the chicken pox and since we had no exposure and I was not going to a Pox party, we did that one a few years later (before 5). I preferred the natural immunity but that's very hard now with the shot available.


Technically most would view us on schedule. But, we were not because we would limit two shots per visit and spread them out every 6-8 weeks (doctors said that spread/picked what shots - we did not walk in with our own schedule). Last shot round we needed 5 or 6 shots - I forget. We have a October birthday, so we have to do the physical in August and go back in October if anything else is needed, like shots. So, if an auditor comes and we only have 2 out of the 6 missing shots, the school can receive an inspection violation as the inspector does not care why or what the plan is, they just care its done. If we sign the waiver, it keeps the school from failing the inspection because of our shot records. We just keep bringing them updated shot records every time we get shots and when we are caught up, that overrides the waiver. The last two schools (current and previous) had no issue with us doing it given our reasons why. We were at one school prior that I was not happy with and they gave me a hard time about it and I basically had to tell them to mind their own business as it was another teacher doing paperwork (thankfully not my child's) and the director had previously ok'ed it. (my kid was 2, so you aren't talking a huge amount missing).

We only significantly delayed one shot - the Chicken Pox but eventually got that one too.

We had really bad fevering and other issues that required a hospital stay so after that, slowing them down was our only option and that worked for us.

OP here. Thank you for describing the process. So basically you signed the religious exemption form, and still got the vaccines on an alternative schedule but updated the school with new forms as you got the vaccines on your alternative schedule. This makes sense and it's good that the schools were okay with it. Did you have to provide a letter from the doctor explaining about the fevering issue as to why you were delaying? Or did the school not ask for specifics about why you were delaying?

No, I told the school why but I didn't have to put it in writing from a doctor. We have other medical and developmental issues, so this was the least of the concern. A doctor can do an exception but they are only allowed in extreme cases and ours was more moderate. I just turned in the vaccine form with the religious exception and that was it. No problem. Then I just kept updating it with the new shot record as we did it. With the religious waiver, it does not matter why and there is no need for an explanation. You can get the exemption for online in Maryland - not sure about it this year as we are caught up so I haven't looked. The exception for is not an all or nothing. There are reasons why you want to delay or not do some shots and that is ok (ignore the nasty posters who make it all about them and their needs). The key is not to make the school liable in terms of their inspections with that waiver form.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't it bother you to lie in general let alone about religion? You are going to say it is against your religion to have vaccines when that is a lie. To lie in the name of religion is disturbing.

Everyone has their own form of religion and most people hide behind their religion to do evil things to others and justify it via they religion. So, no, I have no issue signing a religious form when that is my only option to do what is best for my child. I don't want to spend another couple of days with my child in the ER/Hospital worrying about if he will be ok when we have other serious medical and developmental issues. We are doing the vaccines just not all at once. If we are offered another option, I'd do that one.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't it bother you to lie in general let alone about religion? You are going to say it is against your religion to have vaccines when that is a lie. To lie in the name of religion is disturbing.

LOL. Religions are all lies - just some BS that some guy made up back before people could figure out the sham.

+1 Agreed. I can just make up some religion and be done with it. There is no reason for explanation on what your religious views are.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep your Hep A infested child away from mine tx.

Also I don't know anyone would delay chickenpox. I got shingles this year and am very glad I did not infect my kid, who at the time had to take a course of steroids that could have made chickenpox deadly.

What are you talking about? My kid doesn't have Hep A.

Now, if you were a good parent and got your shingles/chicken pox vaccine you would not have gotten shingles and risked your child's health and safety. Sounds like you are the biggest health issue of all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We just signed the religious waiver and it was no big deal but we were spacing them out over a few months, not years.

So you signed the religious waiver even though you were getting most vaccines, just not on the schedule?

We got all the vaccines and are now up to date - the only one I significantly delayed was the chicken pox and since we had no exposure and I was not going to a Pox party, we did that one a few years later (before 5). I preferred the natural immunity but that's very hard now with the shot available.


Technically most would view us on schedule. But, we were not because we would limit two shots per visit and spread them out every 6-8 weeks (doctors said that spread/picked what shots - we did not walk in with our own schedule). Last shot round we needed 5 or 6 shots - I forget. We have a October birthday, so we have to do the physical in August and go back in October if anything else is needed, like shots. So, if an auditor comes and we only have 2 out of the 6 missing shots, the school can receive an inspection violation as the inspector does not care why or what the plan is, they just care its done. If we sign the waiver, it keeps the school from failing the inspection because of our shot records. We just keep bringing them updated shot records every time we get shots and when we are caught up, that overrides the waiver. The last two schools (current and previous) had no issue with us doing it given our reasons why. We were at one school prior that I was not happy with and they gave me a hard time about it and I basically had to tell them to mind their own business as it was another teacher doing paperwork (thankfully not my child's) and the director had previously ok'ed it. (my kid was 2, so you aren't talking a huge amount missing).

We only significantly delayed one shot - the Chicken Pox but eventually got that one too.

We had really bad fevering and other issues that required a hospital stay so after that, slowing them down was our only option and that worked for us.

Good lord, you sound incredibly annoying. "Fevering"? You mean fever? Which is a normal, common side effect for vaccines?

And, unless you're the queen of England, you might want to refer to your child as "he" or "she" and yourself as "I" and drop the "we" nonsense.

The majority of kids handle vaccines fine but there are a small number that do not. I am not talking about normal fevering. It was high for multiple days = 104+ and my child was hospitalized for several days until they could bring it down. You are incredibly annoying to assume that there are no issues with vaccines and they are perfectly safe. Any time you put a unknown substance you are risking a reaction especially if the product was not made properly, which happens per recalls.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep your Hep A infested child away from mine tx.

Also I don't know anyone would delay chickenpox. I got shingles this year and am very glad I did not infect my kid, who at the time had to take a course of steroids that could have made chickenpox deadly.

What are you talking about? My kid doesn't have Hep A.

Now, if you were a good parent and got your shingles/chicken pox vaccine you would not have gotten shingles and risked your child's health and safety. Sounds like you are the biggest health issue of all.

Well, if you actually understood vaccines you would know why what you are saying makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing it's up to the school or the state.

If you're delaying because of actual health reasons, I think you should wait until you're caught up before sending your kid to school, otherwise you are at elevated risk for catching a preventable (and possibly serious) illness if there's an outbreak.

If you are delaying for "philosophical" reasons, you aren't rational so I don't have any advice for you.

Nor do I want my children going to school with yours. And I want to know who you are so I can publicly humiliate and shame you.

There are far worse things parents do to their kids than not getting them vaccines. I would not want my kid to be anywhere near you and question if you should be raising kids given your mentality. No wonder there are so many bullies at school. It starts with parents like you. I don't get into my child's medical history. I just say I am choosing to delay them and that's it. Its none of your business. You wouldn't tell a stranger on the street your business, so why are you entitled to their child's personal information.

This is where you are dead wrong. It is my business. It is our business as a society. Your unvaccinated child poses a risk to others. Do anti-vaxers really not get it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just signed the religious waiver and it was no big deal but we were spacing them out over a few months, not years.

So you signed the religious waiver even though you were getting most vaccines, just not on the schedule?

We got all the vaccines and are now up to date - the only one I significantly delayed was the chicken pox and since we had no exposure and I was not going to a Pox party, we did that one a few years later (before 5). I preferred the natural immunity but that's very hard now with the shot available.


Technically most would view us on schedule. But, we were not because we would limit two shots per visit and spread them out every 6-8 weeks (doctors said that spread/picked what shots - we did not walk in with our own schedule). Last shot round we needed 5 or 6 shots - I forget. We have a October birthday, so we have to do the physical in August and go back in October if anything else is needed, like shots. So, if an auditor comes and we only have 2 out of the 6 missing shots, the school can receive an inspection violation as the inspector does not care why or what the plan is, they just care its done. If we sign the waiver, it keeps the school from failing the inspection because of our shot records. We just keep bringing them updated shot records every time we get shots and when we are caught up, that overrides the waiver. The last two schools (current and previous) had no issue with us doing it given our reasons why. We were at one school prior that I was not happy with and they gave me a hard time about it and I basically had to tell them to mind their own business as it was another teacher doing paperwork (thankfully not my child's) and the director had previously ok'ed it. (my kid was 2, so you aren't talking a huge amount missing).

We only significantly delayed one shot - the Chicken Pox but eventually got that one too.

We had really bad fevering and other issues that required a hospital stay so after that, slowing them down was our only option and that worked for us.

OP here. Thank you for describing the process. So basically you signed the religious exemption form, and still got the vaccines on an alternative schedule but updated the school with new forms as you got the vaccines on your alternative schedule. This makes sense and it's good that the schools were okay with it. Did you have to provide a letter from the doctor explaining about the fevering issue as to why you were delaying? Or did the school not ask for specifics about why you were delaying?

No, I told the school why but I didn't have to put it in writing from a doctor. We have other medical and developmental issues, so this was the least of the concern. A doctor can do an exception but they are only allowed in extreme cases and ours was more moderate. I just turned in the vaccine form with the religious exception and that was it. No problem. Then I just kept updating it with the new shot record as we did it. With the religious waiver, it does not matter why and there is no need for an explanation. You can get the exemption for online in Maryland - not sure about it this year as we are caught up so I haven't looked. The exception for is not an all or nothing. There are reasons why you want to delay or not do some shots and that is ok (ignore the nasty posters who make it all about them and their needs). The key is not to make the school liable in terms of their inspections with that waiver form.

LOL at a doctor only being able to do an exception in extreme cases and hours were more moderate. Jesus. I feel so bad for your kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing it's up to the school or the state.

If you're delaying because of actual health reasons, I think you should wait until you're caught up before sending your kid to school, otherwise you are at elevated risk for catching a preventable (and possibly serious) illness if there's an outbreak.

If you are delaying for "philosophical" reasons, you aren't rational so I don't have any advice for you.

Nor do I want my children going to school with yours. And I want to know who you are so I can publicly humiliate and shame you.

There are far worse things parents do to their kids than not getting them vaccines. I would not want my kid to be anywhere near you and question if you should be raising kids given your mentality. No wonder there are so many bullies at school. It starts with parents like you. I don't get into my child's medical history. I just say I am choosing to delay them and that's it. Its none of your business. You wouldn't tell a stranger on the street your business, so why are you entitled to their child's personal information.

This is where you are dead wrong. It is my business. It is our business as a society. Your unvaccinated child poses a risk to others. Do anti-vaxers really not get it?

They don't. It is mind boggling. And then something like this happens http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/boy-dies-diphtheria-spain-parents-rejected-vaccine-32069410

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Its not about being anti or pro vaccine - its doing what is best for you child. There have been incidents of severe complications or even death and its clearly hard for those who have not dealt with it to understand. When you spend days in a hospital with your child due to a reaction, you will understand but by then it may be too late. No one here is saying they do not vaccinate, but they are spreading them out which can be safer for some kids. Use some common sense. The safety risk is far greater if we did them all at once or exposed our chid to the shingles woman who had no common sense to get herself vaccinated and is far more worried about what others do than the choices she makes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing it's up to the school or the state.

If you're delaying because of actual health reasons, I think you should wait until you're caught up before sending your kid to school, otherwise you are at elevated risk for catching a preventable (and possibly serious) illness if there's an outbreak.

If you are delaying for "philosophical" reasons, you aren't rational so I don't have any advice for you.

Nor do I want my children going to school with yours. And I want to know who you are so I can publicly humiliate and shame you.

There are far worse things parents do to their kids than not getting them vaccines. I would not want my kid to be anywhere near you and question if you should be raising kids given your mentality. No wonder there are so many bullies at school. It starts with parents like you. I don't get into my child's medical history. I just say I am choosing to delay them and that's it. Its none of your business. You wouldn't tell a stranger on the street your business, so why are you entitled to their child's personal information.

This is where you are dead wrong. It is my business. It is our business as a society. Your unvaccinated child poses a risk to others. Do anti-vaxers really not get it?

So, if my child's health care concerns are your issue, please feel free to attend our medical and therapy appointments. We have from 4-8 a week. Please bring your credit card for payment as since as a society it is your business to be in my child's business, I'm sure you will also be more than happy to contribute to the high costs to insure my child's health. We average $1000-1800 a month between co-pays and private services.

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Anonymous wrote:Its not about being anti or pro vaccine - its doing what is best for you child. There have been incidents of severe complications or even death and its clearly hard for those who have not dealt with it to understand. When you spend days in a hospital with your child due to a reaction, you will understand but by then it may be too late. No one here is saying they do not vaccinate, but they are spreading them out which can be safer for some kids. Use some common sense. The safety risk is far greater if we did them all at once or exposed our chid to the shingles woman who had no common sense to get herself vaccinated and is far more worried about what others do than the choices she makes.

Agree. Look, I cannot stand non vaxers. But that's now what this post is about. This is about kids who will eventually be all caught up, but are on a bit of a delayed schedule. I don't understand the vitriol towards them. My niece had a bad reaction as a baby requiring hospitalization. Going forward, they did a modified schedule where she never got more than 2 vaccines a visit. The only people it inconvenienced were my sister and BIL who had to schedule additional appointments. THe ped was most concerned with certain vaccines given at the right time (I can't remember what exactly) due to the likelihood of exposure over other things.

She is entering K this coming fall and will be completely on schedule with her vaccinations. Just the road to get there was a little different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing it's up to the school or the state.

If you're delaying because of actual health reasons, I think you should wait until you're caught up before sending your kid to school, otherwise you are at elevated risk for catching a preventable (and possibly serious) illness if there's an outbreak.

If you are delaying for "philosophical" reasons, you aren't rational so I don't have any advice for you.

Nor do I want my children going to school with yours. And I want to know who you are so I can publicly humiliate and shame you.

There are far worse things parents do to their kids than not getting them vaccines. I would not want my kid to be anywhere near you and question if you should be raising kids given your mentality. No wonder there are so many bullies at school. It starts with parents like you. I don't get into my child's medical history. I just say I am choosing to delay them and that's it. Its none of your business. You wouldn't tell a stranger on the street your business, so why are you entitled to their child's personal information.

This is where you are dead wrong. It is my business. It is our business as a society. Your unvaccinated child poses a risk to others. Do anti-vaxers really not get it?

But she's not an anti vaxer. She's a delayed vaxer. And unless your kid only hangs out their exact age and older, they are hanging out with kidS who haven't been vaxed yet. There is a big difference between a 15 month old who has his vaccinations spread out over a few months and a 5 year old who has never been vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its not about being anti or pro vaccine - its doing what is best for you child. There have been incidents of severe complications or even death and its clearly hard for those who have not dealt with it to understand. When you spend days in a hospital with your child due to a reaction, you will understand but by then it may be too late. No one here is saying they do not vaccinate, but they are spreading them out which can be safer for some kids. Use some common sense. The safety risk is far greater if we did them all at once or exposed our chid to the shingles woman who had no common sense to get herself vaccinated and is far more worried about what others do than the choices she makes.

Um, the Chicken Pox vaccine only came out in 1995. My guess is that PP likely had it before the vaccine came out (I had chicken pox in 1987, pre-vaccine). So she didn't have the option to get vaccinated...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing it's up to the school or the state.

If you're delaying because of actual health reasons, I think you should wait until you're caught up before sending your kid to school, otherwise you are at elevated risk for catching a preventable (and possibly serious) illness if there's an outbreak.

If you are delaying for "philosophical" reasons, you aren't rational so I don't have any advice for you.

Nor do I want my children going to school with yours. And I want to know who you are so I can publicly humiliate and shame you.

There are far worse things parents do to their kids than not getting them vaccines. I would not want my kid to be anywhere near you and question if you should be raising kids given your mentality. No wonder there are so many bullies at school. It starts with parents like you. I don't get into my child's medical history. I just say I am choosing to delay them and that's it. Its none of your business. You wouldn't tell a stranger on the street your business, so why are you entitled to their child's personal information.

This is where you are dead wrong. It is my business. It is our business as a society. Your unvaccinated child poses a risk to others. Do anti-vaxers really not get it?

So, if my child's health care concerns are your issue, please feel free to attend our medical and therapy appointments. We have from 4-8 a week. Please bring your credit card for payment as since as a society it is your business to be in my child's business, I'm sure you will also be more than happy to contribute to the high costs to insure my child's health. We average $1000-1800 a month between co-pays and private services.

You really need to familiarize yourself with the concept of herd immunity before you post flippant replies.