Jack and Jill of America under attack again...
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Anonymous
When does this show with local women begin? |
Anonymous
NP. I spent most of life living in a place where most of the people I engaged with--work, neighborhood, school--where of a different race, and of a different religion. It never occurred to me to seek out a club of exclusively same race people. I find the whole concept of J&J to be outdated at best, if not downright odd. Some of the comments about having the right "qualifications". What qualifications do you need? SMH. |
Anonymous
| Looks like Bravo announced today. |
Anonymous
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I grew up in the Dallas chapter of Jack and Jill of America, Inc.
I was presented in the chapter’s first Beautillion. I loved attending the teen conferences every summer. It’s ridiculous to think that blacks should not have an upper class. Most of my friends today were members and we share a rich history. I learned early on not to discuss Jack and Jill with none members. I even had relatives who resented my membership. But one thing has always been true: there is never a shortage of families eager to join, to this day. Once those mothers get in, they don’t about who’s not in. And they rarely get out. |
Anonymous
So are you saying that anyone with money can join? It’s a way to keep our poor people? It doesn’t seem to be just that. If that were the case, the group could just charge a high membership fee and for activities and people would self select. |
Anonymous
| I was truly interested in my granddaughter joining this organization, but after reading the criteria of being wealthy and have to search out a sponsor to to even be considered, along with the way it seems like they feel some children are so much better than others the truest thing that has been said since I started researching this organization, it sounds extremely racism! It doesn’t seem like an all inclusive organization and it seems mor about money ! It’s what I’m afraid about what my granddaughter would be taught! I never would teach her she is better than anyone regardless! I am member of the Order of the Eastern Star, so I have an understanding of your values of a family member be it a mother, father or aunt or grandparent being a past or current member. But to each it’s own! There’d are other organizations that teach young ladies and boys the importance of doing the right thing. I truly hate I thought this would have benefited her. Good look it seem to have been around for decades. But so has others who don’t single out your children based off their financial parents situation. And financially we are able to pay, it’s what you stand for is truly a disgrace! |
Anonymous
NP. I think this is a well thought out response until the bit of bitter at the end. Jack and Jill is a safe space for kids who are middle class, educated, and have a different view of life, where they can feel free to participate in a community that makes them feel that they belong and aren't judged for "acting white." There is so much stigma within the black community that I won't go into here, but which makes it harder not to feel sidelined if you're seen as different. Jack and Jill makes room for some of those children. I think some posters have got it turned around. You don't join Jack and Jill to become "elite," you are offered a space in a community that is already comprised of the "elite." You belong. They are folks at your level and able to normalize and de-stigmatize the lifestyle you lead. As usual, people need to be reminded that a black institution operates in a different context than what may be perceived as their white counterparts. I think some posters need to think more about why there's a need for Jack and Jill outside of the (really arrogant) assumption that its purpose is to copy exclusive white clubs. |
Anonymous
If you got your information from a different source, you may have a different perspective. |
Anonymous
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I think Jack & Jill is a useful way for UMC black children who frequently live in all white environments to meet other people to socialize and not feel that lonely. My parents were approached about joining but declined. And sometimes I wonder if I would have had a more pleasant experience growing up if they had not done so.
But I think that some of the people in it can have a little bit of delusions of grandeur because the most prominent and successful black people in the past 10-15 years have not come from there. I was talking to an acquaintance who is really into it recently and she literally said that Justice Jackson surely must have kissed the J&J ring to get support for her appointment. Which…no. I know her very distantly through my husband is not the case. But I was flabbergasted that someone could actually think that a brilliant woman with a Harvard law degree, a scotus clerkship, and a very well connected husband to boot would need to seek out a mother’s organization to become the first block woman appointed to the Supreme Court. |
Anonymous
Jack and Jill has nothing to do w whites or trying to act white. Get a grip. Black person who wouldn’t join such an organization but had friends who have. |
Anonymous
That is ridiculous. Black culture is copied and mimic-ed in America and around the world, everything from language, style, dress, music, etc. Where do you think the word Karens came from? Where do you think woke came from? White people simply high jack words and don't even use it in proper form or context. Big hair in the 70s and 80s started with Black people and then white people started sprucing up their hair to wear it big. |