Jack and Jill of America under attack again...
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Anonymous
Whites didn't have to start an exclusive organization. It was simply called being a part of high society. White high society is what J&J continues to try to duplicate. Why else would you be so proud of your exclusivity and need to be invited to join. Nope! Not offended by your attempted insults. You know nothing of me nor my accomplishments. I promise you they, my material possessions, and lifestyle run circles around you. Therefore, I have no need to wish to be a part of a members only group to give my children opportunities. |
Anonymous
x She did not invoke the name of Jack and Jill or provide confidential information or violate its Code of Ethics. |
Anonymous
If you know anything about Jack and Jill or sororities, which you obviously don't, you'd know you don't apply for membership. You sound insecure like you want to be in the organization but can't get in. |
Anonymous
Aww, does the "exclusivity" bother you, hun? Well...too bad! I'm sure that there are J&J members whose accomplishments vaporize yours (including my own). What's your point exactly? You claim to have no interest in J&J, yet you are blowing this thread up. Btw, J&J doesn't need or want you. We'll content ourselves with the members who are judges (federal and superior court), doctors, partners in major law and consulting firms, entrepreneurs, etc., and who love being a part of the organization. Once again, focus on raising your children and your standards. And you still need to free your mind... |
Anonymous
Why do you care so much??? I can honestly say my participation in Jack and Jill was one of my best childhood/teen experiences. Their programming and opportunities are unparalleled. I have so many fond memories of the teen conferences I attended and all of the wonderful friends I met from around the country. Until you are a part of J&J, you really have no idea how the organization strengthens and prepares children for college and the work world. But more importantly, it helps build self esteem and confidence, a crucial cornerstone for individual success. Honestly, if you ever get the chance to join, then take it - your kids will thank you later. As a black child raised in a predominantly white suburb, I know I am eternally grateful my mom put forth the time, money and effort so I could participate. The reason the organization is exclusive is because generally, people like to socialize with people who they have things in common with. So J&J members tend to extend invitations to their friends who are similarly situated, which is usually very highly educated and/or successful people who are financially comfortable. This type of like minded socializing is not really unusual. I am surprised you are so offended by it. I really don't see the benefit of just letting any person in. I like the fact that a person has to be invited in because that means her sponsor really knows the member and is vouching for her in many ways, including that she shares the same values as the members; that she is professional and poised in her interactions with others and that she is able to afford all of the activities offered. I have heard people say that J&J should do activities with inner city children/families or for the poor. The thing is J&J does do lots of charity work for the poor and children/families in the inner city; however, it is not a charitable organization. It is a mother's organization dedicated to providing wonderful opportunities and socialization for our children. I think you should be proud that an organization like this exists, even if you are not a part of it. Also try and gain a little more insight before you post. Everything you have said so far is untrue, which is odd when information about the organization's purpose and history is so readily available. It almost sounds like you wanted to get in but could not. I know you say this is not true but you seem unusually interested in this thread, yet are proclaiming you have no interest in the organization. |
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The only thing anyone can brag about is the exclusivity of the group. "You have to be INVITED to be one of us!" It's so childish it's sad. It also gets at some really sad deep rooted issues in the black community.
It is true that most people tend to gravitate towards those who are likeminded and similarly situated. That's human nature. The fact that I must be a part of an invites-only organization to do so is where the black pathology of inferiority and needing soooooo badly to be a part of comes in. And please don't think for a second that the only way to interact with judges and other black professionals is by being a part of J&J. Most intellects and successful people don't need or want to be a part of that group in order to feel special. Our accomplishments speak for themselves. We interact and live around one another all day without having to be part of an outdated group borne out of a desire to emulate wealthy Whites. You all sound so sadly insecure and childish with your "But you're not part of my group!" As if one would need to be in order to be successful. There are many more judges, doctors etc who are NOT a part of J&J than who are. |
Anonymous
Guess what? Mothers can--and do--provide opportunities and prepare their children for college without the pretentiousness of J&J. How do you think the 98% of successful Blacks who weren't fortunate enough to be invited into your group got to be that way? Surely you don't think J&J is the only way to success if you're black, do you? I'm glad it was a wonderful experience for you, but that doesn't negate the fact that it's outdated, was created to replicate the white upper crust and is indicative of some deep-rooted issues in the AA community. How're those debutante balls working for ya? |
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To be fair, I actually googled J&J. Not much on the website as clearly it's as outdated and silly as I thought it was.
Tell me, who are your notable members? Obama? Michelle? Clarence Thomas? Ben Carson? Oprah? Exactly! |
Anonymous
| Can both of you insecure butchers go to to bed? Stop fighting with anonymous random online...both of your insecurities are showing |
Anonymous
Lol--I'll humor you hater. 
Let's start with the basics: Oprah has never been a member of J&J because she doesn't have children. I'm not sure if Ben Carson or Clarence Thomas have been members, but I certainly hope not. So, besides judges, lawyers, doctors, educators, entrepreneurs and politicians, specific past and present J&J members include, but are not limited to: --Debra Lee (President and CEO of BET) --Phylicia Rashad --Debbie Allen --The wives of many mayors, including David Dinkins and Andrew Young --Alma Brown (wife of late Commerce Secretary Ron Brown--under Clinton) --Lynn Whitfield --U.S. Senator Cory Booker (J&J alum) --Rachel Robinson (Jackie Robinson's widow) --Betty Shabazz (Malcolm X's widow) --Dr. Charles Drew (his great-grandchildren are current members). Dr. Drew invented the blood bank and blood plasma storage --Randall Kennedy (noted Harvard Law professor) Not every notable AA is a member of J&J (duh!), but we have done ok. It's clearly not the right organization for you, so just keep it moving. |
Anonymous
| ^^^Oops, I forgot to add Marian Wright Edelman (The founder of the Children's Defense Fund) |
Anonymous
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Since 1938 that's the best you could do? And your list proves once again how OUTDATED the organization is. No one on that list is under 60. And let's not pretend Oprah would be waiting on an invite if she had children. Ha! Interesting that the notables you list (ex: Phylicia Rashad, Debbie Allen etc) didn't put their children in the org. People who can provide real opportunities and networking for their children through the virtue of their own successful living don't have to!
That's a veeeeerrrry short list of alums compared to the many, many successful people the AA community has churned out over the decades. And to think, none of them needed to be extended an invite from J&J! I'm sure Michelle's not sweating hoping that an invite is waiting for Sasha and Malia when they return from the travels. Some people just don't need the pretentiousness! |
Anonymous
Lol!  You sound soooooo bitter and angry!!! You also seem to care way too much about an "outdated" organization that you claim to have no interest in. No one has ever claimed that every prominent AA is a member of J&J. No organization can make that claim. However, it's a simple fact that current and past J&J members have been some of the most prominent members of the AA community (whether they are famous or not). Like I said before, J&J is clearly NOT for you, so you really should move along.
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Anonymous
I always heard J&J was a light skinned brown paper bag preferred group, like some sororities and fraternities were back in the day. If you were too dark, you were not welcome. I hope that has at least changed. |
Anonymous
I think that has changed, but it's still an organization that prides itself on exclusivity. For that reason, I've never had an interest. I'm not sure I'd even be wanted (I am highly educated, but did not grow up rich and will never be rich), but I wouldn't want to be part of an organization that my parents (working class, no college) would not be invited to join and I don't want to teach my kids to value exclusivity. |