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Healthcare person here just to make the PP who is losing her mind feel better. DM II is predominantly (mean majority of the cases) lifestyle related and the uptick of DM II especially in obese children is especially alarming.
Take a breath, you are correct. |
Thank you, I have a very low tolerance for stupidity. My apologies for saying the f word. |
But nobody was disputing that there is an association between type II diabetes and obesity. The dispute was over the 100%, which is factually incorrect. |
Here is your last word award. Mazel Tov.
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We go through this on every. single. thread. about. obesity. Many overweight/obese people do put in all that effort. And you know what? They're always going to be fat. I don't know why you and people like you seem to get a little thrill out of imagining that all fat people are because they're morally bankrupt, slothful and spend their free time squeezing mayonnaise and marshmallow creme into their mouths; the fat people I know, including my mother, are very careful with what they eat. The amounts, the kind of food. Just stop. |
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The question at hand is "Is People Magazine glorifying obesity or celebrating diversity?"
My take on it is they believe their are celebrating diversity because that is the trend right now. People Magazine wants to sell magazines. The "Eff Your Beauty Standards" is a big deal right now but it is also facing backlash for not being accepting of "conventional beauty" and perpetuating the "real women have curves" argument. Anyone who says it is healthy to be obese is fooling themselves. I see an obese person just like I do an addict. No matter how in control of it they are or accepting. You are unhealthy and it will catch up with you. |
If you increase activity and decrease calories you will lose weight. Fact, so just stop. Also its funny that fat defenders are putting all these words into peoples mouth (no pun intended) like "morally bankrupt" and getting a thrill...no one has said that. *unless there is a rare extenuating medical circumstance - because I am sure one obscure one will be pointed out as evidence the american obesity epidemic is not all "thyroid" and "big boned" |
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It's the in-thing now to accept "curves" and love yourself if you are overweight. To me that cover is trying to do that. But it's also telling us morbid obesity is ok, when it's not. Just my 2 cents.
The girl has a beautiful face but the rolls of fat on her midsection and arms are not attractive or curvy. |
And you talk out of both sides of your mouth. In your double speak - she her unworthiness is controllable - she can lose weight! Eh, you have no idea how screwed up your message is. |
And it is also true that two people can eat the same diet and have vastly different results. You are perpetuating the myth that fat people have worse lifestyles than thin people. I do not think that is necessarily true. At all. |
Yes, there is no disputing that there is an association between type II diabetes and obesity. But what came first - the chicken or the egg. That is less than clear. |
No you are projecting. I said it made me feel sad that she felt that way. I had compassion for her. Stop trying to twist it. |
Healthcare person here. There is no issue in clarity. The overwhelming majority of new cases of DM II are linked by obesity |
More activity plus building of muscle mass plus reduction of calories plus portion control will cause a person to lose weight. Yes two people with two different metabolisms can eat the same diet and have different results. If a fat person exercises and watches their carbohydrate/sugar intake and practices portion control, they will lose weight. Also your argument has a couple of flaws. Many obese people got that way because they have an addiction to food/sugar and it is a vicious cycle of lowering metabolism and less and less activity as they gain. A thin person can definitely have an unhealthy lifestyle, no one has said that, but you are using that as an excuse for obesity. Some people can drink alcohol and take it or leave it, some have a higher tolerance. Some people can have a sip and will then spiral and go on a bender. Two people drinking alcohol, two outcomes. We wouldn't say an alcoholic is healthy just because someone else is a social drinker. |
You said; :That is a terrible thing to accept about yourself because you have control over your body. I say: that is not as true as you would like it to be. All of our bodies do craptastic things to us. Your body will too one day. Maybe you won't get fat, maybe your body will have something worse. |