Israel has immigration laws like any other country. When those laws are broken, there are consequences. Such as deportation. What is the issue here? African immigrants are overwhelming Europe. Israel is giving them money to start somewhere else. To get from Nigeria to Israel you have to go through Chad and Egypt. Why don't they stay there if they are escaping prosecution? |
Israel allowed all Ethiopian Jews to immigrate to Israel through the " right of return" |
Yup. Lots of antisemitism. |
And if Israel weren't a Jewish state, we wouldn't be obsessing about it. Let's not kid ourselves indeed. |
if Israel were not a Jewish state then the point would be moot. It would just be Palestine. Possibly part of Jordan. |
In other words, not in my home or my backyard |
Agreed. And why choose 'horrific' Israel? I mean, Israel is a terrorist nation according to DCUM. |
Well Israel does support Al Qaida in Syria. Do you consider AQ a terrorist organization? |
The issue is the hypocrisy of being a country created to take in political refugees, and then deporting political refugees. In the 80s I worked for student groups that met with congress to persuade them to pressure the Soviets to release Jews to migrate to Israel. I felt bad for those Soviet Jews. So for me, the hypocrisy is apparent. It was never about whether these people were deserving of a peaceful place to live, or whether they were oppressed. It was all about raising the number of Jews vs. Muslims. |
Which is the whole point of the State of Israel. Whether you agree with that or not. When civilized countries refuse to take in refugees freeing a holocaust, people who literally showed up on Canadian shores (for example) and when turned away ended up in gas chambers, then it's only natural to do whatever you can to establish a place that will never turn you away. |
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You are saying that as long as women and homosexuals are ok, it's fine to beat up on some blacks? Also, you may not know that homosexuals aren't actually allowed to marry each other in Israel. And neither are Jews and non-Jews. |
Yeah, even if you have to toss out whoever happens to live there at the time to make such a place. It's only natural. |
You'd feel even worse if you were one of these Soviet Jews on the receiving end of Israeli propaganda through the aliya outreach that sold them the notion of "land without people, people without land, y'all come". The existence of Palestinians and their claim to the land was never acknowledged except in passing as "these animals to whom we give jobs". The Soviet Jews were all enamored with the country that invited them to come in, gave them housing, jobs, schools - oh, by the way, these houses are likely to be in the occupied territories, but it doesn't matter, the land is all ours anyway. This is why former USSR Israelis are some of the most rabid right-wingers. The idea of Israel they've been sold simply does not include Palestinians, and they are fighting to preserve this idea. Feel sorry for them. |
Pp is right. There is a big uproar about violence against Ethiopian Jews in Israel, right now. |