Does anyone IB for JKLM send their kid to a charter?

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Anonymous wrote:CMI has a quite a few families.

This drive me crazy. Isn't it enough that folks are IB for the best DCPS elem in the city but now they take spots from desperate parents east of the park at CMI. this is when I think that neighborhood preference should be instituted to for charters. Or at least for parents whose IB is horrible. If you ar IB for Janney don;t take a spot elsewhere.

A neighborhood preference for charters -- because what D.C. really needs is yet ANOTHER way to tie the quality of your education to your income? That policy would be great for the property values of homeowners near the popular charters, and terrible public policy for everyone else.

Signed,
Homeowner who would potentially benefit greatly both in terms of real estate value and school options from such a policy but still thinks it'd be a disaster

This is only a problem in DC because we have so many options. I don't know of any other place in the country where you can choose from 50 public schools/charters for K.

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I would find my IB less horrible if they sepearated the high achieving students into their own classroom by 2nd grade. I have a feeling there would be a LOT more interest from the high SES families for the IB if the schools did that. DCPS is determined to screw us over. I wil let a lot slide in ps/pk and K. But by second or third grade, no I don't want my kid stuck in a classroom where the majority of the class is still on the K level. So we will bail. and to the asshole who think we shoudl just make more money. Thank for the reminder that our 265k annual salary is stil not enough for us to "buy" our public education at an acceptable level. You are an ass.


Clearly, you don't know how to manage your money. That's why your child attends a terrible school. Instead of calling people asses for speaking the truth, either make more money or manage your money better. The truth stings, huh?

I really have to agree with 2nd PP. That HHI can get you a safe roof over your head in ANY zip code in the greater Washington area. Some will have better schools than other zip codes. Some will have better commutes. Some of the homes that you can secure in a safe neighborhood with solid schools won't have as much square footage as 1st PP might like.

That's your problem, 1st PP. Your bitter sneering hostility to those that 1. have more than you or 2. made different choices than you did is kind of gross. And funny. And there are a lot of you on DCUM lately, panicking because your gamble isn't paying off on all fronts.

+100. The sense of entitlement from some of these posters is overwhelming! If you make $265K per year (or even half that amount), and you can't afford to rent/buy in the neighborhood of your choice...that's your problem; not mine. Although I live IB for JKLM, I will take any charter seat that I think is a better fit for my child. I don't have to justify that choice to anyone.

I think the poster saying she makes 265 combined said she lives in bounds for Janney and chooses to send her child to a charter. Which is exactly why I find it selfish. Someone making that kind of money could live anywhere, yet chooses to live inbound to a great school PLUS takes a charter spot in a less desirable part of town.

Why on earth should someone be required to send their kid to Janney or any JKLM just because they happen to live in the neighborhood? That's ridiculous. Take it a step further. People who can afford private should not be allowed to live in the JKLM neighborhoods. They should live elsewhere so that all of us who can't afford private can buy houses in the DCPS neighborhood. I mean, seriously, PP? Charter spots are not guaranteed. There's absolutely no reason why ANY student in DC should not be allowed the opportunity to apply for a spot.

Except the moral one, of course.

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NP here. I think is is actually better for a wealthier JKLMOetc IB resident to take a charter spot. This would actually increase economic diversity at the charter school and at the IB school, since the chances that the freed spot at JKLMOetc is taken by a lower income OOB kid increases. Conversely, if it would increase the proportion of higher income students at the charter school.

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

Because JKLMORS, etc. parents have as much of a right to a charter spot as you do! Too bad if you don't like that parents with great IB schools, who send their children to charters, have more/better options than you. There will always be people who have more than you do...it's called LIFE. I/they/we don't owe you anything!!!

Who said you owe me anything??? I don't live my life on the premise that I'm OWED anything. My kid goes to Murch is that makes any difference. I'm lucky that I'm in a position to send my child there and don't take it for granted. I've made many sacrifices to be able to do that. there are families who work very hard ETOP who would LOVE to have an opportunity to send their child to a school like ours. I just find it ridiculous that you'd see a need to take a charter spot. To each her own, right. Perhaps living in a million dollar home in Tenley entitles you to whatever you damn please.

That's the thing--I don't feel entitled at all. I BOUGHT my house...no one gave it to me. I'm also going to exercise my right to take an IB spot, or a spot at a charter--no matter what you think about it. You enjoy your time at Murch, and don't worry about what I'm doing. I would dare someone to tell me to my face that I had no right to take a charter spot.

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

Because JKLMORS, etc. parents have as much of a right to a charter spot as you do! Too bad if you don't like that parents with great IB schools, who send their children to charters, have more/better options than you. There will always be people who have more than you do...it's called LIFE. I/they/we don't owe you anything!!!

Who said you owe me anything??? I don't live my life on the premise that I'm OWED anything. My kid goes to Murch is that makes any difference. I'm lucky that I'm in a position to send my child there and don't take it for granted. I've made many sacrifices to be able to do that. there are families who work very hard ETOP who would LOVE to have an opportunity to send their child to a school like ours. I just find it ridiculous that you'd see a need to take a charter spot. To each her own, right. Perhaps living in a million dollar home in Tenley entitles you to whatever you damn please.

You seem to be saying that people who live IB for good public schools OWE it to IB parents of bad schools to not take a charter spot. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

Because JKLMORS, etc. parents have as much of a right to a charter spot as you do! Too bad if you don't like that parents with great IB schools, who send their children to charters, have more/better options than you. There will always be people who have more than you do...it's called LIFE. I/they/we don't owe you anything!!!

Who said you owe me anything??? I don't live my life on the premise that I'm OWED anything. My kid goes to Murch is that makes any difference. I'm lucky that I'm in a position to send my child there and don't take it for granted. I've made many sacrifices to be able to do that. there are families who work very hard ETOP who would LOVE to have an opportunity to send their child to a school like ours. I just find it ridiculous that you'd see a need to take a charter spot. To each her own, right. Perhaps living in a million dollar home in Tenley entitles you to whatever you damn please.

That's the thing--I don't feel entitled at all. I BOUGHT my house...no one gave it to me. I'm also going to exercise my right to take an IB spot, or a spot at a charter--no matter what you think about it. You enjoy your time at Murch, and don't worry about what I'm doing. I would dare someone to tell me to my face that I had no right to take a charter spot.

I'd be happy to do it. Care to meet for coffee?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

Because JKLMORS, etc. parents have as much of a right to a charter spot as you do! Too bad if you don't like that parents with great IB schools, who send their children to charters, have more/better options than you. There will always be people who have more than you do...it's called LIFE. I/they/we don't owe you anything!!!

Who said you owe me anything??? I don't live my life on the premise that I'm OWED anything. My kid goes to Murch is that makes any difference. I'm lucky that I'm in a position to send my child there and don't take it for granted. I've made many sacrifices to be able to do that. there are families who work very hard ETOP who would LOVE to have an opportunity to send their child to a school like ours. I just find it ridiculous that you'd see a need to take a charter spot. To each her own, right. Perhaps living in a million dollar home in Tenley entitles you to whatever you damn please.

You seem to be saying that people who live IB for good public schools OWE it to IB parents of bad schools to not take a charter spot. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm saying it's wrong, yes. The word "owe" is thrown a lot here and I'm not sure what it has to do with anything.

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The only JKLMs I know who have sent their kid(s) to a charter are those who are in-bound for Hardy. But now that Hardy has improved, I don't think many will be opting for a charter. They will be going to either Hardy or Deal. Those who are inclined to go private will continue to go private; but that set never considered charters OR Deal/Hardy, anyway.

So the person who doesn't like JKLMs going charter (ill-founded as that opinion may be) won't have a problem any more.

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Anonymous wrote:The only JKLMs I know who have sent their kid(s) to a charter are those who are in-bound for Hardy. But now that Hardy has improved, I don't think many will be opting for a charter. They will be going to either Hardy or Deal. Those who are inclined to go private will continue to go private; but that set never considered charters OR Deal/Hardy, anyway.

So the person who doesn't like JKLMs going charter (ill-founded as that opinion may be) won't have a problem any more.

Hardy has not improved. It is the same as it was 3 years ago. If you mean improved in the sense that 5-10 more white students went this year, that's a pretty pathetic rationale. Hardy has always been a good school.

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Anonymous wrote:The only JKLMs I know who have sent their kid(s) to a charter are those who are in-bound for Hardy. But now that Hardy has improved, I don't think many will be opting for a charter. They will be going to either Hardy or Deal. Those who are inclined to go private will continue to go private; but that set never considered charters OR Deal/Hardy, anyway.

So the person who doesn't like JKLMs going charter (ill-founded as that opinion may be) won't have a problem any more.

Hardy has not improved. It is the same as it was 3 years ago. If you mean improved in the sense that 5-10 more white students went this year, that's a pretty pathetic rationale. Hardy has always been a good school.

Its curriculum has improved, at least -- and more kids are filling advanced spots than even existed 3 years ago. Plus, test scores have improved and are improving. We allabout improvement round here, get with it.

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

Because JKLMORS, etc. parents have as much of a right to a charter spot as you do! Too bad if you don't like that parents with great IB schools, who send their children to charters, have more/better options than you. There will always be people who have more than you do...it's called LIFE. I/they/we don't owe you anything!!!

Who said you owe me anything??? I don't live my life on the premise that I'm OWED anything. My kid goes to Murch is that makes any difference. I'm lucky that I'm in a position to send my child there and don't take it for granted. I've made many sacrifices to be able to do that. there are families who work very hard ETOP who would LOVE to have an opportunity to send their child to a school like ours. I just find it ridiculous that you'd see a need to take a charter spot. To each her own, right. Perhaps living in a million dollar home in Tenley entitles you to whatever you damn please.

That's the thing--I don't feel entitled at all. I BOUGHT my house...no one gave it to me. I'm also going to exercise my right to take an IB spot, or a spot at a charter--no matter what you think about it. You enjoy your time at Murch, and don't worry about what I'm doing. I would dare someone to tell me to my face that I had no right to take a charter spot.

I'd be happy to do it. Care to meet for coffee?

No coffee necessary. Post your contact info. so we can set something up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only JKLMs I know who have sent their kid(s) to a charter are those who are in-bound for Hardy. But now that Hardy has improved, I don't think many will be opting for a charter. They will be going to either Hardy or Deal. Those who are inclined to go private will continue to go private; but that set never considered charters OR Deal/Hardy, anyway.

So the person who doesn't like JKLMs going charter (ill-founded as that opinion may be) won't have a problem any more.

Hardy has not improved. It is the same as it was 3 years ago. If you mean improved in the sense that 5-10 more white students went this year, that's a pretty pathetic rationale. Hardy has always been a good school.

Its curriculum has improved, at least -- and more kids are filling advanced spots than even existed 3 years ago. Plus, test scores have improved and are improving. We allabout improvement round here, get with it.

No you're all about more white kids less black (and uniforms even though Latin has them). Anyone with common sense can figure out sending your advanced kid to Hardy will improve test scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only JKLMs I know who have sent their kid(s) to a charter are those who are in-bound for Hardy. But now that Hardy has improved, I don't think many will be opting for a charter. They will be going to either Hardy or Deal. Those who are inclined to go private will continue to go private; but that set never considered charters OR Deal/Hardy, anyway.

So the person who doesn't like JKLMs going charter (ill-founded as that opinion may be) won't have a problem any more.

Hardy has not improved. It is the same as it was 3 years ago. If you mean improved in the sense that 5-10 more white students went this year, that's a pretty pathetic rationale. Hardy has always been a good school.

Its curriculum has improved, at least -- and more kids are filling advanced spots than even existed 3 years ago. Plus, test scores have improved and are improving. We allabout improvement round here, get with it.

No you're all about more white kids less black (and uniforms even though Latin has them). Anyone with common sense can figure out sending your advanced kid to Hardy will improve test scores.

You're trying to bait people with this racial shtick. Improvement is improvement, and its not all about, or always about, race. Especially in Hardy's case.

[Anonymous]

IB for Janney (and Deal), attend Latin for middle school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

Because JKLMORS, etc. parents have as much of a right to a charter spot as you do! Too bad if you don't like that parents with great IB schools, who send their children to charters, have more/better options than you. There will always be people who have more than you do...it's called LIFE. I/they/we don't owe you anything!!!

Who said you owe me anything??? I don't live my life on the premise that I'm OWED anything. My kid goes to Murch is that makes any difference. I'm lucky that I'm in a position to send my child there and don't take it for granted. I've made many sacrifices to be able to do that. there are families who work very hard ETOP who would LOVE to have an opportunity to send their child to a school like ours. I just find it ridiculous that you'd see a need to take a charter spot. To each her own, right. Perhaps living in a million dollar home in Tenley entitles you to whatever you damn please.

That's the thing--I don't feel entitled at all. I BOUGHT my house...no one gave it to me. I'm also going to exercise my right to take an IB spot, or a spot at a charter--no matter what you think about it. You enjoy your time at Murch, and don't worry about what I'm doing. I would dare someone to tell me to my face that I had no right to take a charter spot.

I'd be happy to do it. Care to meet for coffee?

No coffee necessary. Post your contact info. so we can set something up.

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