Does anyone IB for JKLM send their kid to a charter?

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I would find my IB less horrible if they sepearated the high achieving students into their own classroom by 2nd grade. I have a feeling there would be a LOT more interest from the high SES families for the IB if the schools did that. DCPS is determined to screw us over. I wil let a lot slide in ps/pk and K. But by second or third grade, no I don't want my kid stuck in a classroom where the majority of the class is still on the K level. So we will bail. and to the asshole who think we shoudl just make more money. Thank for the reminder that our 265k annual salary is stil not enough for us to "buy" our public education at an acceptable level. You are an ass.


Clearly, you don't know how to manage your money. That's why your child attends a terrible school. Instead of calling people asses for speaking the truth, either make more money or manage your money better. The truth stings, huh?

I really have to agree with 2nd PP. That HHI can get you a safe roof over your head in ANY zip code in the greater Washington area. Some will have better schools than other zip codes. Some will have better commutes. Some of the homes that you can secure in a safe neighborhood with solid schools won't have as much square footage as 1st PP might like.

That's your problem, 1st PP. Your bitter sneering hostility to those that 1. have more than you or 2. made different choices than you did is kind of gross. And funny. And there are a lot of you on DCUM lately, panicking because your gamble isn't paying off on all fronts.

+100. The sense of entitlement from some of these posters is overwhelming! If you make $265K per year (or even half that amount), and you can't afford to rent/buy in the neighborhood of your choice...that's your problem; not mine. Although I live IB for JKLM, I will take any charter seat that I think is a better fit for my child. I don't have to justify that choice to anyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I would find my IB less horrible if they sepearated the high achieving students into their own classroom by 2nd grade. I have a feeling there would be a LOT more interest from the high SES families for the IB if the schools did that. DCPS is determined to screw us over. I wil let a lot slide in ps/pk and K. But by second or third grade, no I don't want my kid stuck in a classroom where the majority of the class is still on the K level. So we will bail. and to the asshole who think we shoudl just make more money. Thank for the reminder that our 265k annual salary is stil not enough for us to "buy" our public education at an acceptable level. You are an ass.


Clearly, you don't know how to manage your money. That's why your child attends a terrible school. Instead of calling people asses for speaking the truth, either make more money or manage your money better. The truth stings, huh?

I really have to agree with 2nd PP. That HHI can get you a safe roof over your head in ANY zip code in the greater Washington area. Some will have better schools than other zip codes. Some will have better commutes. Some of the homes that you can secure in a safe neighborhood with solid schools won't have as much square footage as 1st PP might like.

That's your problem, 1st PP. Your bitter sneering hostility to those that 1. have more than you or 2. made different choices than you did is kind of gross. And funny. And there are a lot of you on DCUM lately, panicking because your gamble isn't paying off on all fronts.

+100. The sense of entitlement from some of these posters is overwhelming! If you make $265K per year (or even half that amount), and you can't afford to rent/buy in the neighborhood of your choice...that's your problem; not mine. Although I live IB for JKLM, I will take any charter seat that I think is a better fit for my child. I don't have to justify that choice to anyone.

I think the poster saying she makes 265 combined said she lives in bounds for Janney and chooses to send her child to a charter. Which is exactly why I find it selfish. Someone making that kind of money could live anywhere, yet chooses to live inbound to a great school PLUS takes a charter spot in a less desirable part of town.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I would find my IB less horrible if they sepearated the high achieving students into their own classroom by 2nd grade. I have a feeling there would be a LOT more interest from the high SES families for the IB if the schools did that. DCPS is determined to screw us over. I wil let a lot slide in ps/pk and K. But by second or third grade, no I don't want my kid stuck in a classroom where the majority of the class is still on the K level. So we will bail. and to the asshole who think we shoudl just make more money. Thank for the reminder that our 265k annual salary is stil not enough for us to "buy" our public education at an acceptable level. You are an ass.


I think the poster saying she makes 265 combined said she lives in bounds for Janney and chooses to send her child to a charter. Which is exactly why I find it selfish. Someone making that kind of money could live anywhere, yet chooses to live inbound to a great school PLUS takes a charter spot in a less desirable part of town.

No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

[Anonymous]

No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

[Anonymous]

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I think the poster saying she makes 265 combined said she lives in bounds for Janney and chooses to send her child to a charter. Which is exactly why I find it selfish. Someone making that kind of money could live anywhere, yet chooses to live inbound to a great school PLUS takes a charter spot in a less desirable part of town.

Would it be better if she moved OOB? Because it wouldn't make any difference.

What I'm really hearing from you is that people with the means to go private shouldn't use the public schools. Which is a time-honored trope in DC public education -- and completely misunderstands the point of public education. Public education is not meant to be a safety net for those who can't afford something better. The idea is to raise our children with a sense of being part of a larger society.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I would find my IB less horrible if they sepearated the high achieving students into their own classroom by 2nd grade. I have a feeling there would be a LOT more interest from the high SES families for the IB if the schools did that. DCPS is determined to screw us over. I wil let a lot slide in ps/pk and K. But by second or third grade, no I don't want my kid stuck in a classroom where the majority of the class is still on the K level. So we will bail. and to the asshole who think we shoudl just make more money. Thank for the reminder that our 265k annual salary is stil not enough for us to "buy" our public education at an acceptable level. You are an ass.


Clearly, you don't know how to manage your money. That's why your child attends a terrible school. Instead of calling people asses for speaking the truth, either make more money or manage your money better. The truth stings, huh?

I really have to agree with 2nd PP. That HHI can get you a safe roof over your head in ANY zip code in the greater Washington area. Some will have better schools than other zip codes. Some will have better commutes. Some of the homes that you can secure in a safe neighborhood with solid schools won't have as much square footage as 1st PP might like.

That's your problem, 1st PP. Your bitter sneering hostility to those that 1. have more than you or 2. made different choices than you did is kind of gross. And funny. And there are a lot of you on DCUM lately, panicking because your gamble isn't paying off on all fronts.

+100. The sense of entitlement from some of these posters is overwhelming! If you make $265K per year (or even half that amount), and you can't afford to rent/buy in the neighborhood of your choice...that's your problem; not mine. Although I live IB for JKLM, I will take any charter seat that I think is a better fit for my child. I don't have to justify that choice to anyone.

Would it be more fair if she lived EOTP and still sent her kid to a charter school? How is that better?

I think the poster saying she makes 265 combined said she lives in bounds for Janney and chooses to send her child to a charter. Which is exactly why I find it selfish. Someone making that kind of money could live anywhere, yet chooses to live inbound to a great school PLUS takes a charter spot in a less desirable part of town.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I think the poster saying she makes 265 combined said she lives in bounds for Janney and chooses to send her child to a charter. Which is exactly why I find it selfish. Someone making that kind of money could live anywhere, yet chooses to live inbound to a great school PLUS takes a charter spot in a less desirable part of town.

Would it be better if she moved OOB? Because it wouldn't make any difference.

What I'm really hearing from you is that people with the means to go private shouldn't use the public schools. Which is a time-honored trope in DC public education -- and completely misunderstands the point of public education. Public education is not meant to be a safety net for those who can't afford something better. The idea is to raise our children with a sense of being part of a larger society.

Well you are hearing it all wrong!!! I did not say that nor do I think that. I am a big proponent of public education and everyone having access to a good one. Again, what I'm saying is why take away a spot at a charter from a kid who has much less of a chance of getting a good education if she/he goes in bounds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't you worried you are taking away from kids who don't have good alernatives for in bounds. It just seems completely selfish and unnecessary.

Your argument doesn't make any sense. If I give up my IB spot, it opens up an opportunity for someone else to lottery into it. Not every school fits every kid, regardless of whether you are IB. And, the point of the lottery is that you shouldn't HAVE to go to your IB school. And finally, just because you like my IB school doesn't mean I do. You may think my IB is fabulous and find me selfish; others may think it sucks. Whose standards should we be applying to decide if it's "fair" to take a charter spot? The lottery is the lottery for everyone, period.

Just the kind of defensive answer I was expecting. I can't think of any charter in ward 3 (close to any of the JKLM) so even if someone got it, it doesn't mean it would be a manageable commute for them. I think it is fair to let the kids with a lot less desirable options than JKLM to take the charter spots, but you will not understand any of the reasons so I won't waste my breath. You do what you think is right I guess

I live in W4 and am in-bounds for a lousy DCPS school, but that doesn't make that much sense -- if the commute from W3 to the charters everyone here raves about is doable enough for the PP here, then the same commute in reverse (from near a charter to a JKLM school) should be, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

Because JKLMORS, etc. parents have as much of a right to a charter spot as you do! Too bad if you don't like that parents with great IB schools, who send their children to charters, have more/better options than you. There will always be people who have more than you do...it's called LIFE. I/they/we don't owe you anything!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CMI has a quite a few families.

This drive me crazy. Isn't it enough that folks are IB for the best DCPS elem in the city but now they take spots from desperate parents east of the park at CMI. this is when I think that neighborhood preference should be instituted to for charters. Or at least for parents whose IB is horrible. If you ar IB for Janney don;t take a spot elsewhere.

A neighborhood preference for charters -- because what D.C. really needs is yet ANOTHER way to tie the quality of your education to your income? That policy would be great for the property values of homeowners near the popular charters, and terrible public policy for everyone else.

Signed,
Homeowner who would potentially benefit greatly both in terms of real estate value and school options from such a policy but still thinks it'd be a disaster

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

You are not reading it right. $265k earner's IB is not good. She clearly said 2nd graders are reading at K level. She is touting her income because someone upthread said it's her fault that she can't make enough to buy IB for a good school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What I'm really hearing from you is that people with the means to go private shouldn't use the public schools. Which is a time-honored trope in DC public education -- and completely misunderstands the point of public education. Public education is not meant to be a safety net for those who can't afford something better. The idea is to raise our children with a sense of being part of a larger society.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I would find my IB less horrible if they sepearated the high achieving students into their own classroom by 2nd grade. I have a feeling there would be a LOT more interest from the high SES families for the IB if the schools did that. DCPS is determined to screw us over. I wil let a lot slide in ps/pk and K. But by second or third grade, no I don't want my kid stuck in a classroom where the majority of the class is still on the K level. So we will bail. and to the asshole who think we shoudl just make more money. Thank for the reminder that our 265k annual salary is stil not enough for us to "buy" our public education at an acceptable level. You are an ass.


Clearly, you don't know how to manage your money. That's why your child attends a terrible school. Instead of calling people asses for speaking the truth, either make more money or manage your money better. The truth stings, huh?

I really have to agree with 2nd PP. That HHI can get you a safe roof over your head in ANY zip code in the greater Washington area. Some will have better schools than other zip codes. Some will have better commutes. Some of the homes that you can secure in a safe neighborhood with solid schools won't have as much square footage as 1st PP might like.

That's your problem, 1st PP. Your bitter sneering hostility to those that 1. have more than you or 2. made different choices than you did is kind of gross. And funny. And there are a lot of you on DCUM lately, panicking because your gamble isn't paying off on all fronts.

+100. The sense of entitlement from some of these posters is overwhelming! If you make $265K per year (or even half that amount), and you can't afford to rent/buy in the neighborhood of your choice...that's your problem; not mine. Although I live IB for JKLM, I will take any charter seat that I think is a better fit for my child. I don't have to justify that choice to anyone.

I think the poster saying she makes 265 combined said she lives in bounds for Janney and chooses to send her child to a charter. Which is exactly why I find it selfish. Someone making that kind of money could live anywhere, yet chooses to live inbound to a great school PLUS takes a charter spot in a less desirable part of town.

Why on earth should someone be required to send their kid to Janney or any JKLM just because they happen to live in the neighborhood? That's ridiculous. Take it a step further. People who can afford private should not be allowed to live in the JKLM neighborhoods. They should live elsewhere so that all of us who can't afford private can buy houses in the DCPS neighborhood. I mean, seriously, PP? Charter spots are not guaranteed. There's absolutely no reason why ANY student in DC should not be allowed the opportunity to apply for a spot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, that's not what the $265K/yr. poster said (please reread the post above). She thinks that her poor money management skills should still get her child into any school of her choice. Unfortunately for her, America (and capitalism) doesn't work that way. She will only be able to send her child to the school that she can afford (private or moving IB), or getting lucky in the lottery. Both you and the prior poster are not owed anything by people who live IB for JKLM or other desirable schools. No one pays my mortgage or taxes except me and my husband. Therefore, we can only live where we can afford to rent or buy. Why should you be treated any differently?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no idea what her poor management skills have to do with where she sends her child to school. What I'm saying is if she is already in bounds for a great school why take the spot in a charter? I don't give a rats ass how much she makes.

Because JKLMORS, etc. parents have as much of a right to a charter spot as you do! Too bad if you don't like that parents with great IB schools, who send their children to charters, have more/better options than you. There will always be people who have more than you do...it's called LIFE. I/they/we don't owe you anything!!!

Who said you owe me anything??? I don't live my life on the premise that I'm OWED anything. My kid goes to Murch is that makes any difference. I'm lucky that I'm in a position to send my child there and don't take it for granted. I've made many sacrifices to be able to do that. there are families who work very hard ETOP who would LOVE to have an opportunity to send their child to a school like ours. I just find it ridiculous that you'd see a need to take a charter spot. To each her own, right. Perhaps living in a million dollar home in Tenley entitles you to whatever you damn please.