Virginia vaccine requirements for school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chart says less than 70k and 1 MILLION worldwide! What's the percentage? Low, VERY low!

So around 120,000 Americans die each year from diseases for which we have vaccines...where 90% of the population is vaccinated...and you are arguing AGAINST vaccination??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what I belive...people are free to make choices to do with their bodies what they wish. I tend to take choice seriously and don't belive government has the right or authority to impose laws or restrictions upon my body. As for the vaccine debate, please tell me how many American children DIE because of the choice not to vaccinate? Not many! in fact, most of the CDC research is focused on African children, people living in substandard conditions in a substandard country. As for the child with a compromised immune system, I feel bad but kniw that more children DIE in auto accidents than from any illness that a vaccine vaccinated against.

UM, LOTS.

http://vec.chop.edu/service/parents-possessing-accessing-communicating-knowledge-about-vaccines/global-immunization/diseases-and-vaccines-a-world-view.html

If you don't care to look at the link, some of the highlights include: Around 70,000 deaths from whooping cough, 4,000 from HPV and 5,000 from Hep B.


If we all don't vaccinate, you can imagine extrapolating from something like this:

More than 15,000 Americans died from diphtheria in 1921, before there was a vaccine. Only one case of diphtheria has been reported to CDC since 2004.

An epidemic of rubella (German measles) in 1964-65 infected 12½ million Americans, killed 2,000 babies, and caused 11,000 miscarriages. In 2012, 9 cases of rubella were reported to CDC.

Right now, many do not because we, the responsible parents, do vaccinate.

Not even counting Polio! In 1952, as larger and larger outbreaks had been spreading across the US, there were 58,000 reported cases of polio, more than 3,000 of which resulted in deaths, and countless others crippled and paralyzed. If there were no vaccines, these diseases would most certainly be more deadly than cars. It is the vaccines that are holding them at bay!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, your trying to distort reality to make your case. Overall, most deaths are not in the US and based on our population the chances are LOW! Probably just as low or lower than the possible side effects of the vaccine.

Your statement and confidence will only be true for as long as the vast majority of parents responsibly vaccinate their children. It is a selfish world view.

[Anonymous]

So let's outlaw cars as that seems to be a way to save more lives!

[Anonymous]

Against vaccines? Where was such mentioned? I argue for choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So let's outlaw cars as that seems to be a way to save more lives!

If you want to, feel free. Every day each person decides the risks they are willing to take, driving a car, walking down the street, going skydiving. The difference is that whether you skydive or not does not affect me or my children. If you decide not to vaccinate, it does. Which is why I care at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Against vaccines? Where was such mentioned? I argue for choice.

Choice implies people get to choose no.

[Anonymous]

Yes, I know. I can choose to or not to. That's choice!

[Anonymous]

People driving cars affects my kids. More kids die in car accidents each year which is why I support a ban!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I know. I can choose to or not to. That's choice!

Are you ok with people being responsible for the consequences of their choice? IE, you don't vaccinate your child against whopping cough, your child passes whooping cough to an infant that then dies. Are you ok with being held legally responsible for the negligence of that choice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People driving cars affects my kids. More kids die in car accidents each year which is why I support a ban!!

When someone drives in a way that is reckless, they are responsible when someone gets hurt. They are 'allowed' to choose to drive recklessly, but not without having to face the music. Anti vaxxers face no such backlash.

[Anonymous]

That's not the law. Why are you grasping to make your point?

[Anonymous]

Bye. Bye

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's not the law. Why are you grasping to make your point?

You're talking to more than one person. It's not the law, but I believe that if we are going to allow it to be a choice, than parents should be held responsible if it results in harming others. In that way, they make the choice to willfully disregard other's saftey AND their own protection from prosecution. It puts you on an even playing field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People driving cars affects my kids. More kids die in car accidents each year which is why I support a ban!!

They die in the car. Don't put your kids in your car and you're good.

Plus, the chance of death is, using your math, so small it's irrelevant.

This article is saying 1000 kids a year are killed in road crash deaths. That's less than US deaths of Hep B deaths. You're fine!

"Despite a 43% drop in road crash deaths of children 12 and younger from 2002-2011, more than 9,000 children in that age group died in crashes during that period, says a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/04/cdc-too-many-kids-die-unbuckled/5204127/