Virginia vaccine requirements for school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't done it but I think it would work. My DD started K without all her Hep A's. (We delayed them.)

Your doctor signs a statement at the bottoms of the standard form that says, "I certify that this child is adequately and age appropriately immunized."

As long as your doc signs and the titer was positive it will likely work.

Why on earth would you delay Hep A of all things!?

You do know that until a few years ago it was a travel vaccine only, right? God, it must suck to live life as frightened as you do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if proof of positive titers is accepted for school in Virginia instead of getting an extra dose of a vaccine? For example, my child got one dose of varicella. Instead of getting the second dose, if we get titers tested and she is immune, does she have to get a second dose to meet school requirements?

I know for me that I never actually had chickenpox, but got my titers checked for pregnancy and they were off the charts immune to chickenpox. There would be no point in my getting the vaccine to fulfill some requirement when I am already immune, despite never actually having had chickenpox.

What is the advantage? Seems like getting a shot is easier than a blood draw.

Seriously? Because there are less risks to a blood draw.

Do you ever drive your children anywhere for any reason?

If so, you are a bad judge of risk.

Actually, I work in risk management. Vaccines have risks. Blood draws have risks. Blood draws generally have less risks.

And yes, I drive my children. In carseats. Getting a vaccine for no reason is more like driving them around in no carseat, to use your very poor analogy.

Well I wouldn't hire you. I suppose blood draws have less risks than vaccines but that is like saying jogging down the sidewalk is less risky than walking down the sidewalk. It's essentially a negligible difference. And yet the difference in danger (to others and your own child) in not vaccinating your children is exponentially larger than the risk in vaccinating or a blood draw. Your logic is faulty.

Re: Hep A/B. So looking at the liklihood your child will come down with this, sure its not that likely. But by delaying/denying those vaccines you are giving credence to the junk science that has caused the larger vaccine scare. Every person who says that they're delaying Hep A just to be safe is giving the person who's denying MMR validation. You're admitting you think there's a potential for harm that could outweigh the risk. No science or population study has EVER given credence to the idea that vaccination is less safe than vaccination. There is NO scientific benefit for delaying a vaccine other than parent comfort (or a legitimate allergy like eggs or something). The people who understand this have an ethical responsibility to be up to date on vaccines to change this harmful narrative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if proof of positive titers is accepted for school in Virginia instead of getting an extra dose of a vaccine? For example, my child got one dose of varicella. Instead of getting the second dose, if we get titers tested and she is immune, does she have to get a second dose to meet school requirements?

I know for me that I never actually had chickenpox, but got my titers checked for pregnancy and they were off the charts immune to chickenpox. There would be no point in my getting the vaccine to fulfill some requirement when I am already immune, despite never actually having had chickenpox.

What is the advantage? Seems like getting a shot is easier than a blood draw.

Seriously? Because there are less risks to a blood draw.

Do you ever drive your children anywhere for any reason?

If so, you are a bad judge of risk.

Actually, I work in risk management. Vaccines have risks. Blood draws have risks. Blood draws generally have less risks.

And yes, I drive my children. In carseats. Getting a vaccine for no reason is more like driving them around in no carseat, to use your very poor analogy.

Well I wouldn't hire you. I suppose blood draws have less risks than vaccines but that is like saying jogging down the sidewalk is less risky than walking down the sidewalk. It's essentially a negligible difference. And yet the difference in danger (to others and your own child) in not vaccinating your children is exponentially larger than the risk in vaccinating or a blood draw. Your logic is faulty.

Re: Hep A/B. So looking at the liklihood your child will come down with this, sure its not that likely. But by delaying/denying those vaccines you are giving credence to the junk science that has caused the larger vaccine scare. Every person who says that they're delaying Hep A just to be safe is giving the person who's denying MMR validation. You're admitting you think there's a potential for harm that could outweigh the risk. No science or population study has EVER given credence to the idea that vaccination is less safe than vaccination. There is NO scientific benefit for delaying a vaccine other than parent comfort (or a legitimate allergy like eggs or something). The people who understand this have an ethical responsibility to be up to date on vaccines to change this harmful narrative.

This is totally off topic. The OP wanted to know if she will be allowed to use titers in VA. I posted what I thought. You are not going to drag me over to your side and I'm not going to drag you over to mine, so no need to beat the horse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if proof of positive titers is accepted for school in Virginia instead of getting an extra dose of a vaccine? For example, my child got one dose of varicella. Instead of getting the second dose, if we get titers tested and she is immune, does she have to get a second dose to meet school requirements?

I know for me that I never actually had chickenpox, but got my titers checked for pregnancy and they were off the charts immune to chickenpox. There would be no point in my getting the vaccine to fulfill some requirement when I am already immune, despite never actually having had chickenpox.

What is the advantage? Seems like getting a shot is easier than a blood draw.

Seriously? Because there are less risks to a blood draw.

Do you ever drive your children anywhere for any reason?

If so, you are a bad judge of risk.

Actually, I work in risk management. Vaccines have risks. Blood draws have risks. Blood draws generally have less risks.

And yes, I drive my children. In carseats. Getting a vaccine for no reason is more like driving them around in no carseat, to use your very poor analogy.

Well I wouldn't hire you. I suppose blood draws have less risks than vaccines but that is like saying jogging down the sidewalk is less risky than walking down the sidewalk. It's essentially a negligible difference. And yet the difference in danger (to others and your own child) in not vaccinating your children is exponentially larger than the risk in vaccinating or a blood draw. Your logic is faulty.

Re: Hep A/B. So looking at the liklihood your child will come down with this, sure its not that likely. But by delaying/denying those vaccines you are giving credence to the junk science that has caused the larger vaccine scare. Every person who says that they're delaying Hep A just to be safe is giving the person who's denying MMR validation. You're admitting you think there's a potential for harm that could outweigh the risk. No science or population study has EVER given credence to the idea that vaccination is less safe than vaccination. There is NO scientific benefit for delaying a vaccine other than parent comfort (or a legitimate allergy like eggs or something). The people who understand this have an ethical responsibility to be up to date on vaccines to change this harmful narrative.

This is totally off topic. The OP wanted to know if she will be allowed to use titers in VA. I posted what I thought. You are not going to drag me over to your side and I'm not going to drag you over to mine, so no need to beat the horse.

I wasn't the first person who called you out. Just another person responding to what you said.

However I think the original question about titers implies the same irrational vaccine fear that your hep a delay does so still feel like my comment is relevant.

I don't care about dragging you over to my side but feelt like this half of the argument needs to be out there for anyone who reads this.

[Anonymous]

New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

Some children have compromised immune systems for one reason or another. They need to be on a different schedule sometimes. If your child doesn't meet that criteria and your ped is working with you than they've decided the benefits of getting you vaccinated in the end merit indulging this imagined socially constructed fear. Hard to blame them but yes, it's junk science and they're just indulging you.

It probably won't harm your child or children around you but the mentality is dangerous because it lends credence to the vote beliefs of the anti vaxx movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

Some children have compromised immune systems for one reason or another. They need to be on a different schedule sometimes. If your child doesn't meet that criteria and your ped is working with you than they've decided the benefits of getting you vaccinated in the end merit indulging this imagined socially constructed fear. Hard to blame them but yes, it's junk science and they're just indulging you.

It probably won't harm your child or children around you but the mentality is dangerous because it lends credence to the vote beliefs of the anti vaxx movement.

I don't see any harm in questioning. Big gov't has a history of getting things wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

Some children have compromised immune systems for one reason or another. They need to be on a different schedule sometimes. If your child doesn't meet that criteria and your ped is working with you than they've decided the benefits of getting you vaccinated in the end merit indulging this imagined socially constructed fear. Hard to blame them but yes, it's junk science and they're just indulging you.

It probably won't harm your child or children around you but the mentality is dangerous because it lends credence to the vote beliefs of the anti vaxx movement.

I don't see any harm in questioning. Big gov9't has a history of getting things wrong.

Except this isn't big government. It's worldwide scientific concensus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

Some children have compromised immune systems for one reason or another. They need to be on a different schedule sometimes. If your child doesn't meet that criteria and your ped is working with you than they've decided the benefits of getting you vaccinated in the end merit indulging this imagined socially constructed fear. Hard to blame them but yes, it's junk science and they're just indulging you.

It probably won't harm your child or children around you but the mentality is dangerous because it lends credence to the vote beliefs of the anti vaxx movement.

I don't see any harm in questioning. Big gov9't has a history of getting things wrong.

Except this isn't big government. It's worldwide scientific concensus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

Some children have compromised immune systems for one reason or another. They need to be on a different schedule sometimes. If your child doesn't meet that criteria and your ped is working with you than they've decided the benefits of getting you vaccinated in the end merit indulging this imagined socially constructed fear. Hard to blame them but yes, it's junk science and they're just indulging you.

It probably won't harm your child or children around you but the mentality is dangerous because it lends credence to the vote beliefs of the anti vaxx movement.

I don't see any harm in questioning. Big gov9't has a history of getting things wrong.

Except this isn't big government. It's worldwide scientific concensus.

It's a worldwide scientific consensus that my newborn child will get an STD? Okey dokey...

Must be the same worldwide scientific consensus that once thought the world was flat, earth was the center of the universe, etc. "They" are always right.

Good thing people continue to question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

Some children have compromised immune systems for one reason or another. They need to be on a different schedule sometimes. If your child doesn't meet that criteria and your ped is working with you than they've decided the benefits of getting you vaccinated in the end merit indulging this imagined socially constructed fear. Hard to blame them but yes, it's junk science and they're just indulging you.

It probably won't harm your child or children around you but the mentality is dangerous because it lends credence to the vote beliefs of the anti vaxx movement.

I don't see any harm in questioning. Big gov9't has a history of getting things wrong.

Except this isn't big government. It's worldwide scientific concensus.

It's a worldwide scientific consensus that my newborn child will get an STD? Okey dokey...

Must be the same worldwide scientific consensus that once thought the world was flat, earth was the center of the universe, etc. "They" are always right.

Good thing people continue to question.

Its worldwide scientific concensus that vaccines are safe. You are confusing worldwide scientific concensus with popular concensus. It was scientists who realized things like a flat earth didn't make sense and required more examination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

Some children have compromised immune systems for one reason or another. They need to be on a different schedule sometimes. If your child doesn't meet that criteria and your ped is working with you than they've decided the benefits of getting you vaccinated in the end merit indulging this imagined socially constructed fear. Hard to blame them but yes, it's junk science and they're just indulging you.

It probably won't harm your child or children around you but the mentality is dangerous because it lends credence to the vote beliefs of the anti vaxx movement.

I don't see any harm in questioning. Big gov9't has a history of getting things wrong.

Except this isn't big government. It's worldwide scientific concensus.

It's a worldwide scientific consensus that my newborn child will get an STD? Okey dokey...

Must be the same worldwide scientific consensus that once thought the world was flat, earth was the center of the universe, etc. "They" are always right.

Good thing people continue to question.

Its worldwide scientific concensus that vaccines are safe. You are confusing worldwide scientific concensus with popular concensus. It was scientists who realized things like a flat earth didn't make sense and required more examination.

Yup. Good thing they questioned it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

Some children have compromised immune systems for one reason or another. They need to be on a different schedule sometimes. If your child doesn't meet that criteria and your ped is working with you than they've decided the benefits of getting you vaccinated in the end merit indulging this imagined socially constructed fear. Hard to blame them but yes, it's junk science and they're just indulging you.

It probably won't harm your child or children around you but the mentality is dangerous because it lends credence to the vote beliefs of the anti vaxx movement.

I don't see any harm in questioning. Big gov9't has a history of getting things wrong.

Except this isn't big government. It's worldwide scientific concensus.

It's a worldwide scientific consensus that my newborn child will get an STD? Okey dokey...

Must be the same worldwide scientific consensus that once thought the world was flat, earth was the center of the universe, etc. "They" are always right.

Good thing people continue to question.

Its worldwide scientific concensus that vaccines are safe. You are confusing worldwide scientific concensus with popular concensus. It was scientists who realized things like a flat earth didn't make sense and required more examination.

Yup. Good thing they questioned it.

I feel like you didn't understand my point. If you believe in climate change and evolution you should believe in vaccines, which are probably the single greatest accomplishment in modem medicine (antibiotics right up there).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster.

So it's "junk science" to work with a ped to personalize a vaccine schedule? If they have decided that a particular baby won't need Hep A/B until a little later - that's "junk science".

The CDC creates the schedule to cover the lowest common denominator. If my ped knows my particular child and gives us a modified schedule, I'm going to go with that. So try not to get all hysterical about that.

Some children have compromised immune systems for one reason or another. They need to be on a different schedule sometimes. If your child doesn't meet that criteria and your ped is working with you than they've decided the benefits of getting you vaccinated in the end merit indulging this imagined socially constructed fear. Hard to blame them but yes, it's junk science and they're just indulging you.

It probably won't harm your child or children around you but the mentality is dangerous because it lends credence to the vote beliefs of the anti vaxx movement.

I don't see any harm in questioning. Big gov9't has a history of getting things wrong.

Except this isn't big government. It's worldwide scientific concensus.

It's a worldwide scientific consensus that my newborn child will get an STD? Okey dokey...

Must be the same worldwide scientific consensus that once thought the world was flat, earth was the center of the universe, etc. "They" are always right.

Good thing people continue to question.

Its worldwide scientific concensus that vaccines are safe. You are confusing worldwide scientific concensus with popular concensus. It was scientists who realized things like a flat earth didn't make sense and required more examination.

Yup. Good thing they questioned it.

I feel like you didn't understand my point. If you believe in climate change and evolution you should believe in vaccines, which are probably the single greatest accomplishment in modem medicine (antibiotics right up there).

Ha! I feel like you didn't understand my point. Which was certainly NOT that I don't believe in vaccines. Just that I don't blindly accept everything at face value. I question - which vaccines, why, when? I've done that with many important aspects of my life and my children's lives.

I think it's important for people to question and understand this - and many other things as well.

Flu shots - current thinking is now that it's best not to get them every year now, right? It's all evolving. We are not omniscient.

[Anonymous]

Hep A isn't a required vaccine.

As for chickenpox, I guess you could, but why? Titers cost money and involve a blood drawn. Another shot is just a stick and is free under insurance.