Tina Fey must feel terrible

[Anonymous]

This is absurd. Would anyone watching this show have thought that the portrayal of this character would make the person it was based on kill himself? Do you think that SNL and other comedy shows should stop making fun of people lest those people kill themselves?

Maybe Tina Fey's new show is not that funny, I don't know, but the idea that she did anything wrong other than that is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Pathetic people make money off of making fun of other peoplle and pathetic people excuse this behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pathetic people make money off of making fun of other peoplle and pathetic people excuse this behavior.

Pathetic people make money off of other people's insecurities, telling them they need to change, cutting them up and altering them, as a physical bandaid to the deep emotional and mental issues they deal with - and pathetic people excuse this behavior.

[Anonymous]

People, get your facts straight he was a dermatologist. He wasn't cutting into anyone, As if that's even relevant. The creator of the show made a specific decision that she would portray this poor man and mock him shamelessly. He couldn't handle it (some can and some can't). Some people survive bullying and some don't. She was a mean bully, plain and simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, get your facts straight he was a dermatologist. He wasn't cutting into anyone, As if that's even relevant. The creator of the show made a specific decision that she would portray this poor man and mock him shamelessly. He couldn't handle it (some can and some can't). Some people survive bullying and some don't. She was a mean bully, plain and simple.

+1

[Anonymous]

The term "bullying" has lost all value if this is considered bullying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The term "bullying" has lost all value if this is considered bullying.

Agreed 100%

[Anonymous]

You guys, TF want the only person doing this show. Martin Short, the director, producers, all the other across who were in the dr scenes, the costume designer, makeup artist, script writer... They all had something to do with it. And if this was a character portrayed in a short skit on SNL and the same guy killed himself then would everyone want the show to be cancelled and hate Lorne Michaels?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, get your facts straight he was a dermatologist. He wasn't cutting into anyone, As if that's even relevant. The creator of the show made a specific decision that she would portray this poor man and mock him shamelessly. He couldn't handle it (some can and some can't). Some people survive bullying and some don't. She was a mean bully, plain and simple.

Just stabbing them with needles. Mmkay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two points:

1) If you're reading this far, please consider using the term "died by suicide" rather than the verb "commit" when referring to a death by suicide. This man died from depression, as disclosed by his family. He died from depression by suicide. The negative connotations of the verb "commit", with associations to crimes/murder, increases the stigma faced by the survivors of a family member who died by suicide and the resulting shame can prevent people who are experiencing lethal suicidal ideation from seeking help while their lives are at risk. This one small change in how we refer to deaths by suicide can lessen pain for survivors and help those suffering from suicidal symptoms to be more comfortable seeking help.

2) Tina Fey did not cause this man's death by suicide. He had a sometimes lethal illness. That does not absolve her of cruelty and unkindness, which may have made his life worse and which may have exacerbated his illness. She's not guilty of killing him, but no one should get a free pass for being cruel and unkind to others.

I disagree with #1. It is still a choice. I don't think it helps survivors to think that suicide is inevitable and it could "happen" to them.

It's not a willful, conscious choice if you are not in your right mind. If your brain is telling you the lie that your childr n would be better off without you. If the crushing despair prevents you from seeing other options. If the impulsivity of acute mania prevents you from having a second thought before you pull the trigger.

That's not conscious commission of a crime of self-murder. It's being a victim of a mental illness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two points:

1) If you're reading this far, please consider using the term "died by suicide" rather than the verb "commit" when referring to a death by suicide. This man died from depression, as disclosed by his family. He died from depression by suicide. The negative connotations of the verb "commit", with associations to crimes/murder, increases the stigma faced by the survivors of a family member who died by suicide and the resulting shame can prevent people who are experiencing lethal suicidal ideation from seeking help while their lives are at risk. This one small change in how we refer to deaths by suicide can lessen pain for survivors and help those suffering from suicidal symptoms to be more comfortable seeking help.

2) Tina Fey did not cause this man's death by suicide. He had a sometimes lethal illness. That does not absolve her of cruelty and unkindness, which may have made his life worse and which may have exacerbated his illness. She's not guilty of killing him, but no one should get a free pass for being cruel and unkind to others.

I disagree with #1. It is still a choice. I don't think it helps survivors to think that suicide is inevitable and it could "happen" to them.

It's not a willful, conscious choice if you are not in your right mind. If your brain is telling you the lie that your childr n would be better off without you. If the crushing despair prevents you from seeing other options. If the impulsivity of acute mania prevents you from having a second thought before you pull the trigger.

That's not conscious commission of a crime of self-murder. It's being a victim of a mental illness.

And of course, no one who has ever committed a murder has been mentally ill have they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poor Man. By all accounts he was super nice man. She should feel awful. Making fun of people is a cheap shot and besides, that show is horrible anyway.

Agree, can't stand her brand of 'humor.'

Well, clearly you have a great sense of humor, so that's settled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The term "bullying" has lost all value if this is considered bullying.

Agreed 100%

Completely. The people on this thread are absurd. A comedian can't make fun of a public figure because he might have an undisclosed mental illness? How stupid. This is a sad, unfortunate thing. But it is in no way her fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The term "bullying" has lost all value if this is considered bullying.

Agreed 100%

Completely. The people on this thread are absurd. A comedian can't make fun of a public figure because he might have an undisclosed mental illness? How stupid. This is a sad, unfortunate thing. But it is in no way her fault.

I think it's funny to parody a political figure for his/her views. Just not funny to me to mock a person's appearance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The term "bullying" has lost all value if this is considered bullying.

Agreed 100%

Completely. The people on this thread are absurd. A comedian can't make fun of a public figure because he might have an undisclosed mental illness? How stupid. This is a sad, unfortunate thing. But it is in no way her fault.

I think it's funny to parody a political figure for his/her views. Just not funny to me to mock a person's appearance.

Agreed.