Tina Fey must feel terrible

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of ironic since she was in Mean Girls.

How is that irony?

NP here. She wasn't just IN Mean Girls, she wrote it.

I don't think it's ironic either. But perhaps it shows us that any of us is capable of "mean girl" behavior, and we all need to be careful. I constantly see people talking about the Mean Girl they know, as if it's a fixed identity, and even that act of labeling is unfair. Any of us can behave like a mean girl, and we should all be careful.

[Anonymous]

Two points:

1) If you're reading this far, please consider using the term "died by suicide" rather than the verb "commit" when referring to a death by suicide. This man died from depression, as disclosed by his family. He died from depression by suicide. The negative connotations of the verb "commit", with associations to crimes/murder, increases the stigma faced by the survivors of a family member who died by suicide and the resulting shame can prevent people who are experiencing lethal suicidal ideation from seeking help while their lives are at risk. This one small change in how we refer to deaths by suicide can lessen pain for survivors and help those suffering from suicidal symptoms to be more comfortable seeking help.

2) Tina Fey did not cause this man's death by suicide. He had a sometimes lethal illness. That does not absolve her of cruelty and unkindness, which may have made his life worse and which may have exacerbated his illness. She's not guilty of killing him, but no one should get a free pass for being cruel and unkind to others.

[Anonymous]

"If Tina Fey is guilty of anything, it's holding up a merciless mirror to the utter futility of the plastic surgery industry"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3028734/PIERS-MORGAN-Tina-Fey-guilty-s-holding-merciless-mirror-utter-futility-plastic-surgery-industry.html

I hate linking to the Daily Mail, but sometimes it's just easier. Piers Morgan is often a douchebag, but he's right on this one. And the "don't make fun of people's looks" comments are ridiculous. No one's making fun of his natural looks, but his choices to manipulate himself so drastically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two points:

1) If you're reading this far, please consider using the term "died by suicide" rather than the verb "commit" when referring to a death by suicide. This man died from depression, as disclosed by his family. He died from depression by suicide. The negative connotations of the verb "commit", with associations to crimes/murder, increases the stigma faced by the survivors of a family member who died by suicide and the resulting shame can prevent people who are experiencing lethal suicidal ideation from seeking help while their lives are at risk. This one small change in how we refer to deaths by suicide can lessen pain for survivors and help those suffering from suicidal symptoms to be more comfortable seeking help.

Oh shut UP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two points:

1) If you're reading this far, please consider using the term "died by suicide" rather than the verb "commit" when referring to a death by suicide. This man died from depression, as disclosed by his family. He died from depression by suicide. The negative connotations of the verb "commit", with associations to crimes/murder, increases the stigma faced by the survivors of a family member who died by suicide and the resulting shame can prevent people who are experiencing lethal suicidal ideation from seeking help while their lives are at risk. This one small change in how we refer to deaths by suicide can lessen pain for survivors and help those suffering from suicidal symptoms to be more comfortable seeking help.

2) Tina Fey did not cause this man's death by suicide. He had a sometimes lethal illness. That does not absolve her of cruelty and unkindness, which may have made his life worse and which may have exacerbated his illness. She's not guilty of killing him, but no one should get a free pass for being cruel and unkind to others.

I disagree with #1. It is still a choice. I don't think it helps survivors to think that suicide is inevitable and it could "happen" to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Tina Fey should feel bad for writing such a terrible, unfunny show.

Personally I found the whole ridicule of girls kept in a cellar too close to the bone (in terms of recent news stories) and turned it off in disgust.

I watched it and as the episodes progressed it definitely got worse. It wasn't very funny or creative and I was particularly uncomfortable at mocking the trial of the abductor. It is so hard to get people to testify about abuse and I was really hoping for more from Tina Fey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with this article: he did not commit the suicide because of the show, but TF should not have made fun of his looks. http://www.people.com/article/unbreakable-kimmy-schmidt-not-cause-dr-brandt-apparent-suicide

This... not so pretty lady makes fun of peoples' looks? Oh my.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with this article: he did not commit the suicide because of the show, but TF should not have made fun of his looks. http://www.people.com/article/unbreakable-kimmy-schmidt-not-cause-dr-brandt-apparent-suicide

This... not so pretty lady makes fun of peoples' looks? Oh my.

Yes, because what makes it objectionable is that Tina Fey herself is "not so pretty." Good lord.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"If Tina Fey is guilty of anything, it's holding up a merciless mirror to the utter futility of the plastic surgery industry"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3028734/PIERS-MORGAN-Tina-Fey-guilty-s-holding-merciless-mirror-utter-futility-plastic-surgery-industry.html

I hate linking to the Daily Mail, but sometimes it's just easier. Piers Morgan is often a douchebag, but he's right on this one. And the "don't make fun of people's looks" comments are ridiculous. No one's making fun of his natural looks, but his choices to manipulate himself so drastically.

I'm sure he made plenty of money over the years making people feel like shit about their faces under the guise of "helping" and making himself rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"If Tina Fey is guilty of anything, it's holding up a merciless mirror to the utter futility of the plastic surgery industry"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3028734/PIERS-MORGAN-Tina-Fey-guilty-s-holding-merciless-mirror-utter-futility-plastic-surgery-industry.html

I hate linking to the Daily Mail, but sometimes it's just easier. Piers Morgan is often a douchebag, but he's right on this one. And the "don't make fun of people's looks" comments are ridiculous. No one's making fun of his natural looks, but his choices to manipulate himself so drastically.

I'm sure he made plenty of money over the years making people feel like shit about their faces under the guise of "helping" and making himself rich.

You don't attract and keep clients by making them feel like shit about their faces. It is just the oopposite. In any event, comedians shouldn't get a pass for cruelty that would get any kid a 3 day suspension from school.

[Anonymous]

If bad breath was a person , it would look like Tina Fey.

[Anonymous]

If bad breath was a person , it would look like Tuna Gey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with this article: he did not commit the suicide because of the show, but TF should not have made fun of his looks. http://www.people.com/article/unbreakable-kimmy-schmidt-not-cause-dr-brandt-apparent-suicide

This... not so pretty lady makes fun of peoples' looks? Oh my.

Yes, because what makes it objectionable is that Tina Fey herself is "not so pretty." Good lord.

Looking for a fight much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"If Tina Fey is guilty of anything, it's holding up a merciless mirror to the utter futility of the plastic surgery industry"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3028734/PIERS-MORGAN-Tina-Fey-guilty-s-holding-merciless-mirror-utter-futility-plastic-surgery-industry.html

I hate linking to the Daily Mail, but sometimes it's just easier. Piers Morgan is often a douchebag, but he's right on this one. And the "don't make fun of people's looks" comments are ridiculous. No one's making fun of his natural looks, but his choices to manipulate himself so drastically.

No, just a douchebag. He did not know the person, but made all types of insinuations and nasty assumptions about the person's behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of ironic since she was in Mean Girls.

How is that irony?

NP here. She wasn't just IN Mean Girls, she wrote it.

I don't think it's ironic either. But perhaps it shows us that any of us is capable of "mean girl" behavior, and we all need to be careful. I constantly see people talking about the Mean Girl they know, as if it's a fixed identity, and even that act of labeling is unfair. Any of us can behave like a mean girl, and we should all be careful.

Something is ironic when it happens in the opposite way to what is expected, and typically causes wry amusement as a result. I think this qualifies. You would not expect the person who wrote and starred in Mean Girls (a preachy moving about not being mean to people) to be the person who perhaps contributes to someone's suicide by mocking them in a public way.