"free" school breakfasts

[Anonymous]

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OP is not qualified to speak for the parents of the children who qualify for free breakfast.

Not exactly. If she confers with these parents, and most or some of them agree with her, I would have absolutely no problem with her being their spokeswoman if that is what they want. But to me, it seems a bit presumptuous for her to petition to change the breakfast program if that is not actually what the people who are actually the intended beneficiaries want. If they are on board she should go for it, but not without consulting them.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and that works for me.

DP… sorry but this is preposterous… how presumptuous of you to assume people can't feed their kids and you'll be the surrogate parent and feed them thru the schools (and with money that is not even yours). Absolute arrogance.

No one was starving before these programs were instituted, even at the height of the depression we were able to take care of kids without feeding them in school. I lean liberal, and just like I dont want government in my bedroom but I dont want them in my kitchen either, NOR YOU! Its this kind of patronizing which got the Dems shellacked last November. Let parents be parents, let schools be schools, and let the socials programs we invest in for food stamps, snap, wic etc do their job.

[Anonymous]

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DP… sorry but this is preposterous… how presumptuous of you to assume people can't feed their kids and you'll be the surrogate parent and feed them thru the schools (and with money that is not even yours). Absolute arrogance.

No one was starving before these programs were instituted, even at the height of the depression we were able to take care of kids without feeding them in school. I lean liberal, and just like I dont want government in my bedroom but I dont want them in my kitchen either, NOR YOU! Its this kind of patronizing which got the Dems shellacked last November. Let parents be parents, let schools be schools, and let the socials programs we invest in for food stamps, snap, wic etc do their job.

It's presumptuous to assume that the people who make use of the free-breakfast problem in the schools find it useful?

Also, school food programs go back to the turn of the 20th century, and there were school-lunch programs during the Depression.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/nslp/history_2

Finally, I agree that we should let social programs like SNAP, WIP, and the National School Lunch Program do their job.

[Anonymous]

They should be fed organic goat inlays omelette Tar tar with a leg of lamb, hell let them bring 6 portions home for their parents and uncles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not understanding the argument that poor people need a panwich more than they need fresh fruit.

+1

"Joe, b/c you're poor, this prepackaged breakfast danish will be sufficient. We'll ignore the fact that it's high in fats and calories and low in protein. But you are poor! So you're lucky to have it."

30 lbs later . . .

There is no prepackaged breakfast Danish on the MCPS school breakfast menu. Please check your facts.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/2014-Dec-ElementaryMenu_English.WEB.pdf
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/foodserv/menus/secondary%20breakfast.pdf

For what it's worth, the chicken sausage panwich has 140 calories, 3 g of fat, and 7 g of protein.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/foodserv/menus/NUTRIENTS%20WEB%20VERSION%2012.12.14.pdf

I was being sarcastic, genius. Learn to detect tone.

Furthermore, the food in the cafeteria is crap! I work in a school and wouldn't touch any of it. In fact, I don't know any teacher who will eat cafeteria food. Yet it's fine to give to kids???

Check my facts - ha! I live it, lady.

[Anonymous]

I was in ES in the 80s and ate "hot lunch" a couple times a week or did the deli sandwich bar. Hamburgers, tater tots, cooked carrots, whichever milk, and some type of dessert. I doubt it's gotten worse than those days and nothing bad happened to me or anyone else that ate hot lunch! $1.25 a lunch back then, thx subsidies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers at my school hate it. It is messy and the kids drop the food which brings mice and bugs. They have to dump the unused milk in the sink which causes clogs. It takes forever for the kids to eat it.

Guatemalan schools will have these issues.

Milk causes sink clogs. Really?

In my experience it was the soggy cereal that clogged the sink.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was in ES in the 80s and ate "hot lunch" a couple times a week or did the deli sandwich bar. Hamburgers, tater tots, cooked carrots, whichever milk, and some type of dessert. I doubt it's gotten worse than those days and nothing bad happened to me or anyone else that ate hot lunch! $1.25 a lunch back then, thx subsidies.

Macaroni and cheese, cocktail sausages, canned green beans, orange slices, and a cinnamon roll, plus chocolate milk, was my favorite school lunch in elementary school. That was in the 1970s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers at my school hate it. It is messy and the kids drop the food which brings mice and bugs. They have to dump the unused milk in the sink which causes clogs. It takes forever for the kids to eat it.

Guatemalan schools will have these issues.

Milk causes sink clogs. Really?

In my experience it was the soggy cereal that clogged the sink.

Dump it in the toilet!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in no way advocating for these crappy breakfasts, OP, but FYI the whole sugar=hyper myth has been debunked.

What about sugar = obesity
and obesity = type 2 diabetes

My friend's a ped. She says obesity among the young IS an epidemic w/in lower SES population. I teach in a low-performing school. Kids are overweight, and based on the crap I see them eat, I am not surprised. Do you really think some obese kid is going to perform well? Diabetes is a killer, folks, and the school system isn't helping matters.

My daughter, who's 10, had to rely on the cafeteria one day b/c she left her lunch at home. She said she could barely get through her grilled cheese.

Not to mention that they are giving these kids cow's milk, which is not healthy for children from many ethnic backgrounds.

[Anonymous]

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Not to mention that they are giving these kids cow's milk, which is not healthy for children from many ethnic backgrounds.

Does MCPS require lactose-intolerant children to take a milk?

[Anonymous]

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Not to mention that they are giving these kids cow's milk, which is not healthy for children from many ethnic backgrounds.

Does MCPS require lactose-intolerant children to take a milk?

if it's part of the meal? in cheese, for example?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Not to mention that they are giving these kids cow's milk, which is not healthy for children from many ethnic backgrounds.

Does MCPS require lactose-intolerant children to take a milk?

if it's part of the meal? in cheese, for example?

I'm not sure if the PP is talking about the liquid milk, or dairy products in the food.

MCPS does post information about allergens (including milk) in everything:

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/foodserv/menus/ALLERGENS%2011.25.14.pdf

and also has this in the FAQs:

My child has a milk allergy. How do I arrange for milk-free foods?

Please provide a doctor's note to the cafeteria manager at your child's school. The cafeteria manager will record this information. Food items that contain milk proteins are found on the Nutrient and Allergen Information List.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/foodserv/menus/menufaq.aspx

[Anonymous]

You don't have to take a milk, or a dessert or anything that is included. Big whoop.

As for obese, seditary kids with poor eating habits at home, not sure MCPS can do much more than it already is. The PE classes are infrequent and I doubt anyone is getting timed or getting their heart rates up much. PE back in the day was hardcore.

[Anonymous]

Cow's milk is also not the healthiest of foods, and has been linked to colitis and Chron's disease.

- signed someone who is lactose intolerant

[Anonymous]

Free breakfasts are a great option for people who cannot easily afford to feed their kids...or (gasp!) those who drop their children off at before care programs because they need to make it to their jobs on time...it's hard enough to get out the door so early in the morning with kids, breakfast at school cuts out a step.