anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

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well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

did god also say do not murder?


Self defense is not murder.


It's not self defense if you caused the war.

This confirms both the Gazans complaint about being starved out, as well as pointing out that the new post-coup Egyptian government colluded with Israel to create the conditions. Lastly it says that the US believed this incident to not be directed by Hamas and that Israel's own intelligence warned that their response could precipitate the backlash:

Unexpected candor from the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0CB4QqQIoADAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Funlikely-alliance-between-israel-and-egypt-stoked-gaza-tension-1407379093&ei=kWjjU5e0MImBygTDqoLgCg&usg=AFQjCNF5pyyXJIYFNbP1HyzVLHVUb6u2AA&bvm=bv.72676100,d.aWw


Neither the US, Israel, nor Egypt forced Hamas to shoot 1000s of missiles at civilians in Israel. That's what started this war. Why Israel chose the timing of her response doesn't really matter. Regardless of how you think Israel handled the response, Hamas started the war. And Egypt destroyed smuggling tunnels under its own land and declining to have a relationship with a group it considers to be against its national interest, is also their prerogative and not instigation of war.


No. The missiles were a retaliation. You do not get to arbitrarily erase the events that preceded it. I'm tired of the narrative that these missiles just started firing off out of the blue, when we all read the papers for two weeks about what was going on beforehand and you have additional information in front of you.


The missiles have been going on since 2002. Israel withdrew in 2005with no blockade. Hamas was elected in 2006. missiles shot indiscriminately at civilians are the preceeding act of war.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure this boycott will work as well as the boycott against Chic-fil-a.

Americans have the attention spans of a nat.

GL on your boycotts.


Maybe only Americans who can't spell?
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well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

did god also say do not murder?


Self defense is not murder.


It's not self defense if you caused the war.

This confirms both the Gazans complaint about being starved out, as well as pointing out that the new post-coup Egyptian government colluded with Israel to create the conditions. Lastly it says that the US believed this incident to not be directed by Hamas and that Israel's own intelligence warned that their response could precipitate the backlash:

Unexpected candor from the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0CB4QqQIoADAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Funlikely-alliance-between-israel-and-egypt-stoked-gaza-tension-1407379093&ei=kWjjU5e0MImBygTDqoLgCg&usg=AFQjCNF5pyyXJIYFNbP1HyzVLHVUb6u2AA&bvm=bv.72676100,d.aWw


Neither the US, Israel, nor Egypt forced Hamas to shoot 1000s of missiles at civilians in Israel. That's what started this war. Why Israel chose the timing of her response doesn't really matter. Regardless of how you think Israel handled the response, Hamas started the war. And Egypt destroyed smuggling tunnels under its own land and declining to have a relationship with a group it considers to be against its national interest, is also their prerogative and not instigation of war.


No. The missiles were a retaliation. You do not get to arbitrarily erase the events that preceded it. I'm tired of the narrative that these missiles just started firing off out of the blue, when we all read the papers for two weeks about what was going on beforehand and you have additional information in front of you.


The missiles have been going on since 2002. Israel withdrew in 2005with no blockade. Hamas was elected in 2006. missiles shot indiscriminately at civilians are the preceeding act of war.


Indeed. Context matters.
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And selective context is self-serving.
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It's not all about "narrative." Facts matter.
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The immediate narrative is one of Israel's murdering and displacing Palestinians.

The larger narrative is one of Israel's displacing, oppressing and murdering Palestinians.

Israel appears to have thought that, since the world largely ignores the larger narrative, it could ramp things up with no adverse consequences. Wrong. It is now the #1 pariah among nations.
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Israel has been a pariah among nations for at least 40 years. That shouldn't keep it from, say, eliminating tunnels stocked with weapons.
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If that was all they did, no one would say anything. Murdering over 400 children en route is more problematic isn't it?
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Anonymous wrote:If that was all they did, no one would say anything. Murdering over 400 children en route is more problematic isn't it?


Hamas is responsible for that.
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Anonymous wrote:If that was all they did, no one would say anything. Murdering over 400 children en route is more problematic isn't it?


Hamas is responsible for that.


No, i'm responsible for that. For not having done more while the morally degenerate Israeli government and the vapid people like you who supported and enabled them to do it murdered those children.

Why ask psychopaths to be accountable for their action? They don't have the capacity for remorse or humanity.
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well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

did god also say do not murder?


Self defense is not murder.


It's not self defense if you caused the war.

This confirms both the Gazans complaint about being starved out, as well as pointing out that the new post-coup Egyptian government colluded with Israel to create the conditions. Lastly it says that the US believed this incident to not be directed by Hamas and that Israel's own intelligence warned that their response could precipitate the backlash:

Unexpected candor from the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0CB4QqQIoADAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Funlikely-alliance-between-israel-and-egypt-stoked-gaza-tension-1407379093&ei=kWjjU5e0MImBygTDqoLgCg&usg=AFQjCNF5pyyXJIYFNbP1HyzVLHVUb6u2AA&bvm=bv.72676100,d.aWw


Neither the US, Israel, nor Egypt forced Hamas to shoot 1000s of missiles at civilians in Israel. That's what started this war. Why Israel chose the timing of her response doesn't really matter. Regardless of how you think Israel handled the response, Hamas started the war. And Egypt destroyed smuggling tunnels under its own land and declining to have a relationship with a group it considers to be against its national interest, is also their prerogative and not instigation of war.


No. The missiles were a retaliation. You do not get to arbitrarily erase the events that preceded it. I'm tired of the narrative that these missiles just started firing off out of the blue, when we all read the papers for two weeks about what was going on beforehand and you have additional information in front of you.


The missiles have been going on since 2002. Israel withdrew in 2005with no blockade. Hamas was elected in 2006. missiles shot indiscriminately at civilians are the preceeding act of war.


Indeed. Context matters.


OK, then the context is that the economy of Gaza was getting crushed, and following the murder of the three Israeli youth, which Hama did not do, Israel arrested hundreds of people, bulldozed houses, and provoked a war in the process.
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Anonymous wrote:The boycott of South African wine and divestment by businesses and universities played a role in ending apartheid there. There is a ground swell of support for boycotting Israeli goods. Heck even the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is divesting.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.596344


Do you know what will happen if Israel falls? What's your take?


In theory I'd be very happy is most or all Israelis came here. But they might be too conservative for my taste.

In another note, it's really striking to me that people would both kill and die over land. Land. Human life has so little value.


well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

And here we have anti-semitism. Welcome to Jeff's world. Deluded as it is.


Hmmmmm... or he could be quoting David Ben Gurion.

How on earth is this anti-semitic?


Every group has its clown car.


Did you just call the Founder and first Prime Minister of Israel the "clown car"?
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Palestinians have too many kids as it is. Israel is using a form of birth control.
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Anonymous wrote:If that was all they did, no one would say anything. Murdering over 400 children en route is more problematic isn't it?


Hamas is responsible for that.


No, i'm responsible for that. For not having done more while the morally degenerate Israeli government and the vapid people like you who supported and enabled them to do it murdered those children.

Why ask psychopaths to be accountable for their action? They don't have the capacity for remorse or humanity.


"...that any future humanitarian aid will be used to rebuild the tunnels and rearm Hamas, who will attack Israel, yet again, without any regard whatsoever for their own people. So, checkbooks out all you Western Progressive bleeding hearts, because we all know that's what you really want. Then, you can go through the same self-righteous pantomime, and wallow once more in your criminally-biased selective moralizing from a suitably safe distance."

Pat Condell
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Anonymous wrote:Palestinians have too many kids as it is. Israel is using a form of birth control.


Do any of you who have been complaining about anti-Semitism or my sense of humor have anything to say about this?
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