anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

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Anonymous wrote:Do you eat shrimp? Today's Post says lots of the shrimp we buy, including at Whole Foods, may be peeled by Burmese slaves in Thailand. Many crying children.

It's easy enough to buy shrimp from here. The country of origin has to be displayed.

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Anonymous wrote:20:02, why don't you move to the Middle East and see how fabulous your life will be? Of course in Israel you could live as well as you live here,.

NP. I'm dark, so I doubt I could live as well in Israel as I live here. Have you actually been to Israel. They really do treat dark people like crap. Going through the customs line to board the airplane are two separate lines, and it does not matter if you have a USA passport. Heck, they treat the Sephardic and Ethiopian Jews as second class citizens. The Black Hebrew Israelites like third class citizens. And the Palestinians aren't treated with citenzry at all.

A good number of BHI sects espouse some pretty vile views.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ap-global-supermarkets-selling-shrimp-peeled-by-slaves/2015/12/11/07563646-9fe5-11e5-9ad2-568d814bbf3b_story.html

I have read that many Palestinians working on Israeli product lines are pretty happy, unlike these crying slaves. After reading this. I literally never want to eat shrimp again and may boycott it.

But back to my question--boycott to what end? Apartheid boycotts were very clear to me, but this is not unless you have a very specific end. If it is just to "protest the treatment of Palestinians" there are also people on the Palestinian side behaving badly and not coming to the table. Would you boycott all bad actors until a reasonable deal was brokered? What's the goal?

The "goal" probably depends on one's motives. Being pro-boycott is on trend and likely to get you social standing and approval. It can be a mask for antisemitism. And it may come from legitimate concern. Maybe it's some of all of these or none of them. But the obsession with Israel by some is almost pathological.

The antisemitism accusation is often pathological, as if no one is allow to say anything critical.

Its like saying "racist". It is meant to shut down a conversation by vilifying the other person. Standard tactic for "progressives".

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ap-global-supermarkets-selling-shrimp-peeled-by-slaves/2015/12/11/07563646-9fe5-11e5-9ad2-568d814bbf3b_story.html

I have read that many Palestinians working on Israeli product lines are pretty happy, unlike these crying slaves. After reading this. I literally never want to eat shrimp again and may boycott it.

But back to my question--boycott to what end? Apartheid boycotts were very clear to me, but this is not unless you have a very specific end. If it is just to "protest the treatment of Palestinians" there are also people on the Palestinian side behaving badly and not coming to the table. Would you boycott all bad actors until a reasonable deal was brokered? What's the goal?

The "goal" probably depends on one's motives. Being pro-boycott is on trend and likely to get you social standing and approval. It can be a mask for antisemitism. And it may come from legitimate concern. Maybe it's some of all of these or none of them. But the obsession with Israel by some is almost pathological.

The antisemitism accusation is often pathological, as if no one is allow to say anything critical.

If the shoe fits.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone see that Jimmy Carter's cancer treatments were developed in Israel? That was interesting given his public statements about Israel. It seems to me it would be very impossible to really boycott Israel. And you know the Arab nations trade with Israel too. Where do you think Israel gets its gasoline? The same place we do.

So then I guess you would support the us of forced laborers from the occupied countries of Europe by Bayer during WW2 since they were producing something of benefit to others.

Would you deny your kids a life saving treatment because it was developed in Israel?

No

Furthermore, people who spend their lives developing cures for diseases want to save lives. So what if they're Israeli? Does everyone fit into a little box?

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Did anyone see that Jimmy Carter's cancer treatments were developed in Israel? That was interesting given his public statements about Israel. It seems to me it would be very impossible to really boycott Israel. And you know the Arab nations trade with Israel too. Where do you think Israel gets its gasoline? The same place we do.

So then I guess you would support the us of forced laborers from the occupied countries of Europe by Bayer during WW2 since they were producing something of benefit to others.


Would you deny your kids a life saving treatment because it was developed in Israel?


No

Furthermore, people who spend their lives developing cures for diseases want to save lives. So what if they're Israeli? Does everyone fit into a little box?

When you are in the medical field you must consider the moral and ethic practices as you do research and development cures. I bet if this was a debate about boycotting and disinvestment of ISIS produced products, you would be all for it. Israel controls, kills, terrorizes and oppresses the Palestinians while reaping huge economic benifits.

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Did anyone see that Jimmy Carter's cancer treatments were developed in Israel? That was interesting given his public statements about Israel. It seems to me it would be very impossible to really boycott Israel. And you know the Arab nations trade with Israel too. Where do you think Israel gets its gasoline? The same place we do.

So then I guess you would support the us of forced laborers from the occupied countries of Europe by Bayer during WW2 since they were producing something of benefit to others.


Would you deny your kids a life saving treatment because it was developed in Israel?


No

Furthermore, people who spend their lives developing cures for diseases want to save lives. So what if they're Israeli? Does everyone fit into a little box?

When you are in the medical field you must consider the moral and ethic practices as you do research and development cures. I bet if this was a debate about boycotting and disinvestment of ISIS produced products, you would be all for it. Israel controls, kills, terrorizes and oppresses the Palestinians while reaping huge economic benifits.

Oh, please. And, I bet you think the Palestinians (Hamas) has done nothing to cause the Israelis to “control, kill, terrorize, or oppress.”
I bet you think the Palestinians are totally blameless.
Go read up on the many unprovoked attacks by Palestinians.

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Anonymous wrote:
Did anyone see that Jimmy Carter's cancer treatments were developed in Israel? That was interesting given his public statements about Israel. It seems to me it would be very impossible to really boycott Israel. And you know the Arab nations trade with Israel too. Where do you think Israel gets its gasoline? The same place we do.

So then I guess you would support the us of forced laborers from the occupied countries of Europe by Bayer during WW2 since they were producing something of benefit to others.


Would you deny your kids a life saving treatment because it was developed in Israel?


No

Furthermore, people who spend their lives developing cures for diseases want to save lives. So what if they're Israeli? Does everyone fit into a little box?

When you are in the medical field you must consider the moral and ethic practices as you do research and development cures. I bet if this was a debate about boycotting and disinvestment of ISIS produced products, you would be all for it. Israel controls, kills, terrorizes and oppresses the Palestinians while reaping huge economic benifits.

Israel does not enslave the Palestinians. There is no forced labor. They do offer jobs at wages less than they would pay an Israeli, but that is because wages are lower in the west bank. (Gaza is a different story). Israel is not conducting medical experiments on Palestinians. Israel is not mass-exterminating the Palestinians. Now, I would love to see a peaceful solution where the two peoples live side-by-side, but to equate this to WW2 is at best offensive. The Germans slaughtered and enslaved people. They had no options.