Bad College Campuses

[Anonymous]

Agree with GW. NYU is even worse. To the person who said "urban" is much better than "nowhere U," have you heard of the following universities: Harvard, Columbia, Chicago? All three of these universities have beautiful campuses that are adjacent to, or in, thriving urban centers. You present a patently false choice between "no campus at all" and "State U." NYU and GW have no quads or student centers. For a kid whose first exposure to solo living is generally a college campus, that would suck.

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Anonymous wrote:Ones that didn't make my personal cut, based on recent tours:
Penn and Drexel
NYU

Pleasantly surprised by:
UConn
Syracuse


I guess we don't like urban, since they don't really have much of a campus--buildings are sort of all over the place.

If you don't like urban, that's definitely your perogative. But Penn and NYU aren't so bad these days, at least for urban campuses. Penn used to be HORRIBLE - I know, I went there. Today, Penn is much less dangerous than it used to be and many nice stores and boutiques have sprouted up around it. Like many urban campuses, it's never going to be crime-free or even low-crime, though. Temple, in another part of Philadelphia, has barbed wire around the dorms. I love Philadelphia, but it's an "emerging" city, shall we say.

Penn area is not nice at all. Philly schools are all in bad neighborhoods. Boston, DC, NYC, Pittsburgh all have schools in better areas than Philly.

"Nice" is subjective. If you want an urban school, you might find Penn at least as "nice" as NYU or Columbia. Yes, I've been to all three recently.

The surrounding area in Philly is far worse than Greenwich Village or Morningside Heights. That's the problem. Some of the buildings are nice, but the general area sucks.

Morningside Heights is 10 minutes from Harlem, which is coming up, but still.

Dumb. Some of the most expensive real estate in the world on the UES is 10 minutes from Harlem, too.

The issue with Penn is the immediately surrounding area, which is awful.

Dumb? You're rude!

If you define "nice" as being expensive, then there are lots of places in Haarlem and the Bronx where you'll be deleriously happy. The rest of us probalby define "nice" as having more to do with nice trees and parks, and safety.

Your posts make no sense. Penn is in a bad neighborhood that is not particularly safe. NYU and Columbia are in much safer areas, and Columbia is a block away from Riverside Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Really? College should not be a four year nature hike or garden tour ( or party for that matter). Tell me where the professors that inspire are? And please don't bother if classes are taught by uninterested teaching assistants.

The purpose of education is . . . Education. It's not that complex folks.

Good luck getting that internship or job at your remote college with a beautiful campus. The smart kids have figured out that the cities are where the opportunities are, if not the frat parties.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Really? College should not be a four year nature hike or garden tour ( or party for that matter). Tell me where the professors that inspire are? And please don't bother if classes are taught by uninterested teaching assistants.

The purpose of education is . . . Education. It's not that complex folks.

Good luck getting that internship or job at your remote college with a beautiful campus. The smart kids have figured out that the cities are where the opportunities are, if not the frat parties.

Yes, but you have apparently missed the memo on all of the beautiful college campuses around the country that have both. See, e.g., Harvard. Perhaps you've heard of it? I hear the kids do pretty well there.

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Howard. Ugh

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Anonymous wrote:Ones that didn't make my personal cut, based on recent tours:
Penn and Drexel
NYU

Pleasantly surprised by:
UConn
Syracuse


I guess we don't like urban, since they don't really have much of a campus--buildings are sort of all over the place.

If you don't like urban, that's definitely your perogative. But Penn and NYU aren't so bad these days, at least for urban campuses. Penn used to be HORRIBLE - I know, I went there. Today, Penn is much less dangerous than it used to be and many nice stores and boutiques have sprouted up around it. Like many urban campuses, it's never going to be crime-free or even low-crime, though. Temple, in another part of Philadelphia, has barbed wire around the dorms. I love Philadelphia, but it's an "emerging" city, shall we say.

Penn area is not nice at all. Philly schools are all in bad neighborhoods. Boston, DC, NYC, Pittsburgh all have schools in better areas than Philly.

"Nice" is subjective. If you want an urban school, you might find Penn at least as "nice" as NYU or Columbia. Yes, I've been to all three recently.

The surrounding area in Philly is far worse than Greenwich Village or Morningside Heights. That's the problem. Some of the buildings are nice, but the general area sucks.

Morningside Heights is 10 minutes from Harlem, which is coming up, but still.

Dumb. Some of the most expensive real estate in the world on the UES is 10 minutes from Harlem, too.

The issue with Penn is the immediately surrounding area, which is awful.

Dumb? You're rude!

If you define "nice" as being expensive, then there are lots of places in Haarlem and the Bronx where you'll be deleriously happy. The rest of us probalby define "nice" as having more to do with nice trees and parks, and safety.

Your posts make no sense. Penn is in a bad neighborhood that is not particularly safe. NYU and Columbia are in much safer areas, and Columbia is a block away from Riverside Park.

I'm extremely familiar with both the Penn and Columbia campuses -- probably much more familiar with both of them than you are. You are nuts to insist on drawing such a sharp distinction between these campuses, all three have their plusses, but all three definitely have their negatives too.

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Dumb. Some of the most expensive real estate in the world on the UES is 10 minutes from Harlem, too.

The issue with Penn is the immediately surrounding area, which is awful.

Dumb? You're rude!

If you define "nice" as being expensive, then there are lots of places in Haarlem and the Bronx where you'll be deleriously happy. The rest of us probalby define "nice" as having more to do with nice trees and parks, and safety.

Your posts make no sense. Penn is in a bad neighborhood that is not particularly safe. NYU and Columbia are in much safer areas, and Columbia is a block away from Riverside Park.

Huh? Real estate is expensive EVERYWHERE in Manhattan/the Boroughs. That doesn't speak to safety or beauty. And Riverside Park certainly has its share of vagrants.

But fine, you want to think that high property prices must mean that absolutely anywhere in NYC must be Heaven on Earth. That's your choice, and nobody is going to stand in your way.

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Dumb. Some of the most expensive real estate in the world on the UES is 10 minutes from Harlem, too.

The issue with Penn is the immediately surrounding area, which is awful.

Dumb? You're rude!

If you define "nice" as being expensive, then there are lots of places in Haarlem and the Bronx where you'll be deleriously happy. The rest of us probalby define "nice" as having more to do with nice trees and parks, and safety.

Your posts make no sense. Penn is in a bad neighborhood that is not particularly safe. NYU and Columbia are in much safer areas, and Columbia is a block away from Riverside Park.

Huh? Real estate is expensive EVERYWHERE in Manhattan/the Boroughs. That doesn't speak to safety or beauty. And Riverside Park certainly has its share of vagrants.

But fine, you want to think that high property prices must mean that absolutely anywhere in NYC must be Heaven on Earth. That's your choice, and nobody is going to stand in your way.

You might as well stop sputtering. The University City area is crappy; Greenwich Village and Morningside Heights are not. Whether Harlem is expensive or East New York is unsafe is irrelevant.

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Dumb. Some of the most expensive real estate in the world on the UES is 10 minutes from Harlem, too.

The issue with Penn is the immediately surrounding area, which is awful.

Dumb? You're rude!

If you define "nice" as being expensive, then there are lots of places in Haarlem and the Bronx where you'll be deleriously happy. The rest of us probalby define "nice" as having more to do with nice trees and parks, and safety.

Your posts make no sense. Penn is in a bad neighborhood that is not particularly safe. NYU and Columbia are in much safer areas, and Columbia is a block away from Riverside Park.

Huh? Real estate is expensive EVERYWHERE in Manhattan/the Boroughs. That doesn't speak to safety or beauty. And Riverside Park certainly has its share of vagrants.

But fine, you want to think that high property prices must mean that absolutely anywhere in NYC must be Heaven on Earth. That's your choice, and nobody is going to stand in your way.

You might as well stop sputtering. The University City area is crappy; Greenwich Village and Morningside Heights are not. Whether Harlem is expensive or East New York is unsafe is irrelevant.

Clearly this isn't about college locations, LOL. Clearly you're an abusive troll who is trying to pick a fight on the Internet.

[Anonymous]

Uh, I loved GW and the campus when I was there.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Really? College should not be a four year nature hike or garden tour ( or party for that matter). Tell me where the professors that inspire are? And please don't bother if classes are taught by uninterested teaching assistants.

The purpose of education is . . . Education. It's not that complex folks.

Good luck getting that internship or job at your remote college with a beautiful campus. The smart kids have figured out that the cities are where the opportunities are, if not the frat parties.

Yep dartmouth is really struggling in placing into choice employers in finance and consulting -> some of the toughest sectors to break into for college students.

Same with williams - i've heard their recruiting sucks.

you are an idiot

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Dumb. Some of the most expensive real estate in the world on the UES is 10 minutes from Harlem, too.

The issue with Penn is the immediately surrounding area, which is awful.

Dumb? You're rude!

If you define "nice" as being expensive, then there are lots of places in Haarlem and the Bronx where you'll be deleriously happy. The rest of us probalby define "nice" as having more to do with nice trees and parks, and safety.

Your posts make no sense. Penn is in a bad neighborhood that is not particularly safe. NYU and Columbia are in much safer areas, and Columbia is a block away from Riverside Park.

Huh? Real estate is expensive EVERYWHERE in Manhattan/the Boroughs. That doesn't speak to safety or beauty. And Riverside Park certainly has its share of vagrants.

But fine, you want to think that high property prices must mean that absolutely anywhere in NYC must be Heaven on Earth. That's your choice, and nobody is going to stand in your way.

You might as well stop sputtering. The University City area is crappy; Greenwich Village and Morningside Heights are not. Whether Harlem is expensive or East New York is unsafe is irrelevant.

Are you the Tea Party poster who was on this forum earlier today?

Serious question: why are you guys such combative jerks? In the same vein, why do you do things like bring up real estate prices and then, when someone addresses it, you claim real estate prices are irrelevant? Is there some camp somewhere, where you Tea Party guys learn how to be rude jerks on social media?

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Anonymous wrote:Princeton.

Really?

Has to be sarcastic, as Princeton generally is considered one of the more beautiful campuses.

I'm not the PP, but I do think Princeton (DH's alma mater) is just meh. It has some interesting architecture, though it can't touch places like Chicago or Yale in this respect. (Even its hallmark Collegiate Gothic architecture is outdone by the gem-like Michigan Law School quad.) It's a suburban school, lacking either the verdant and lush landscape of, say, Middlebury, or the vitality of a city school like Columbia.

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You might as well stop sputtering. The University City area is crappy; Greenwich Village and Morningside Heights are not. Whether Harlem is expensive or East New York is unsafe is irrelevant.

NYU doesn't even have much of a campus!

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Anonymous wrote:Princeton.

Really?

Has to be sarcastic, as Princeton generally is considered one of the more beautiful campuses.

I'm not the PP, but I do think Princeton (DH's alma mater) is just meh. It has some interesting architecture, though it can't touch places like Chicago or Yale in this respect. (Even its hallmark Collegiate Gothic architecture is outdone by the gem-like Michigan Law School quad.) It's a suburban school, lacking either the verdant and lush landscape of, say, Middlebury, or the vitality of a city school like Columbia.

When I attended Columbia, the "urban vitality" was such that I got mugged three times in Morningside Heights.