I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate

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Anonymous wrote:My most vocal anti-vax friend was the first in line to get her precious snowflake the H1N1 vaccine during the swine flu scare a few years back. Seriously - I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she pushed over senior citizens and infants on her way to push in front of the line. She got in like at the clinic at like 5AM the first day they were available.

Funny how people change their minds in the wake of an actual threat vs a theoretical threat.

Well, obviously. What's more funny is how hysterical the "anti-anti-vax" people sound on a regular basis in the face of a theoretical threat. I could not live on a daily basis with that level of fear and loathing. Nut jobs.

It's not theoretical when there are actual pertussis/measles outbreaks.

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Anonymous wrote:My most vocal anti-vax friend was the first in line to get her precious snowflake the H1N1 vaccine during the swine flu scare a few years back. Seriously - I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she pushed over senior citizens and infants on her way to push in front of the line. She got in like at the clinic at like 5AM the first day they were available.

Funny how people change their minds in the wake of an actual threat vs a theoretical threat.

Well, obviously. What's more funny is how hysterical the "anti-anti-vax" people sound on a regular basis in the face of a theoretical threat. I could not live on a daily basis with that level of fear and loathing. Nut jobs.

Oh you again. You are so tiring and annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

You know there's no serologic immunity for tetanus, right? Medical personnel really love it when parents bring their kids in to the Emergency Department with puncture wounds or cuts that need to be stitched and the parents didn't bother to get the kids vaxed beforehand because they didn't think it was necessary. They usually change their minds once their toddler steps on a rusty can and slices their foot open, though.

(It is not a given that someone who gets a cut will get tetanus.)

Wanna hedge your bets? The disease and treatment are a mofo. The shot doesn't work too well if you're already symptomatic, btw. Stepping on a rusty can is an obvious indicator, but a shocking number of people don't report animal bites (because they don't want the family dog to be put down), or are unaware of small splinters or less serious cuts their older kids get, etc. Those are great ways to get tetanus if you're not vaxed.

It's a good bet they're not dying of tetanus at home to spare their pets. Seems an excellent bet that since it is so hush-hush, the did NOT get tetanus.

You're right, they probably aren't DYING of tetanus. And most likely neither will your kid, if she gets a puncture wound, is in a car accident, is bitten by a stray animal, has an undetected splinter that gets infected, etc. We have excellent medical care available here and will do whatever can be done to keep your child alive if you bring her in presenting with the symptoms of tetanus. If it's not caught right away, she will most likely spend several days undergoing painful treatments in the hospital, hopefully with no lasting effects. If it is caught immediately, you can expect a withering look from the attending physician and you'd better hope no one else is in the hospital with symptoms of polio, pertussis or any of the other nasty crap that most people are smart enough to vax for. But hey, feel free to ignore common sense and keep your kid unvaxed. Be my guest.

I thought tetanus was deadly but I just googled it and found that with treatment, less than ten percent of people who get it actually die. I can withstand withering looks from anyone, thanks! And again, we are all vaccinated in my house but we are not hysterical about it. (In other words, we actually have common sense and don't feel the need to call people names for thinking differently than we do. What cereal do you eat, BTW? I'm sure it's the wrong one.)

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Anonymous wrote:My youngest is just 6 weeks old so has not had her shots yet. And after hearing the stories of measles exposure in Fairfax and Loudon, I am so worried. She wasn't in any of the places listed, of course, but I have 2 older children that go to school, play sports, go to birthday parties, etc.
I think the non- vaxers should all have to go live on an island somewhere.

+1. I could have written this post. I even say the thing about the island all the time! It makes me sick that all these ignorant, selfish people are endangering our (and their own) children with their irresponsible, paranoid, anti-science b.s.

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My sister and I had measles at around ages 2-3. We survived fine, but my parents were very scared. They never talk about it and I don't remember having it, but I believe one of us was in quite a bit of danger (the reason why they never talk about it).

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Anonymous wrote:My youngest is just 6 weeks old so has not had her shots yet. And after hearing the stories of measles exposure in Fairfax and Loudon, I am so worried. She wasn't in any of the places listed, of course, but I have 2 older children that go to school, play sports, go to birthday parties, etc.
I think the non- vaxers should all have to go live on an island somewhere.

+1. I could have written this post. I even say the thing about the island all the time! It makes me sick that all these ignorant, selfish people are endangering our (and their own) children with their irresponsible, paranoid, anti-science b.s.

Your newborns are the ones who should be kept away from the general public. If you have any common sense and are concerned about illnesses, then you should be keeping your newborns home. This is a time-honored way of handling babies.

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Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

You know there's no serologic immunity for tetanus, right? Medical personnel really love it when parents bring their kids in to the Emergency Department with puncture wounds or cuts that need to be stitched and the parents didn't bother to get the kids vaxed beforehand because they didn't think it was necessary. They usually change their minds once their toddler steps on a rusty can and slices their foot open, though.

(It is not a given that someone who gets a cut will get tetanus.)

Wanna hedge your bets? The disease and treatment are a mofo. The shot doesn't work too well if you're already symptomatic, btw. Stepping on a rusty can is an obvious indicator, but a shocking number of people don't report animal bites (because they don't want the family dog to be put down), or are unaware of small splinters or less serious cuts their older kids get, etc. Those are great ways to get tetanus if you're not vaxed.

It's a good bet they're not dying of tetanus at home to spare their pets. Seems an excellent bet that since it is so hush-hush, the did NOT get tetanus.

You're right, they probably aren't DYING of tetanus. And most likely neither will your kid, if she gets a puncture wound, is in a car accident, is bitten by a stray animal, has an undetected splinter that gets infected, etc. We have excellent medical care available here and will do whatever can be done to keep your child alive if you bring her in presenting with the symptoms of tetanus. If it's not caught right away, she will most likely spend several days undergoing painful treatments in the hospital, hopefully with no lasting effects. If it is caught immediately, you can expect a withering look from the attending physician and you'd better hope no one else is in the hospital with symptoms of polio, pertussis or any of the other nasty crap that most people are smart enough to vax for. But hey, feel free to ignore common sense and keep your kid unvaxed. Be my guest.

I thought tetanus was deadly but I just googled it and found that with treatment, less than ten percent of people who get it actually die. I can withstand withering looks from anyone, thanks! And again, we are all vaccinated in my house but we are not hysterical about it. (In other words, we actually have common sense and don't feel the need to call people names for thinking differently than we do. What cereal do you eat, BTW? I'm sure it's the wrong one.)

Only 1 in 10 chance of dying. No biggie. Despite what you wrote, your common sense seems to be lacking.

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Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

You know there's no serologic immunity for tetanus, right? Medical personnel really love it when parents bring their kids in to the Emergency Department with puncture wounds or cuts that need to be stitched and the parents didn't bother to get the kids vaxed beforehand because they didn't think it was necessary. They usually change their minds once their toddler steps on a rusty can and slices their foot open, though.

(It is not a given that someone who gets a cut will get tetanus.)

Wanna hedge your bets? The disease and treatment are a mofo. The shot doesn't work too well if you're already symptomatic, btw. Stepping on a rusty can is an obvious indicator, but a shocking number of people don't report animal bites (because they don't want the family dog to be put down), or are unaware of small splinters or less serious cuts their older kids get, etc. Those are great ways to get tetanus if you're not vaxed.

It's a good bet they're not dying of tetanus at home to spare their pets. Seems an excellent bet that since it is so hush-hush, the did NOT get tetanus.

You're right, they probably aren't DYING of tetanus. And most likely neither will your kid, if she gets a puncture wound, is in a car accident, is bitten by a stray animal, has an undetected splinter that gets infected, etc. We have excellent medical care available here and will do whatever can be done to keep your child alive if you bring her in presenting with the symptoms of tetanus. If it's not caught right away, she will most likely spend several days undergoing painful treatments in the hospital, hopefully with no lasting effects. If it is caught immediately, you can expect a withering look from the attending physician and you'd better hope no one else is in the hospital with symptoms of polio, pertussis or any of the other nasty crap that most people are smart enough to vax for. But hey, feel free to ignore common sense and keep your kid unvaxed. Be my guest.

I thought tetanus was deadly but I just googled it and found that with treatment, less than ten percent of people who get it actually die. I can withstand withering looks from anyone, thanks! And again, we are all vaccinated in my house but we are not hysterical about it. (In other words, we actually have common sense and don't feel the need to call people names for thinking differently than we do. What cereal do you eat, BTW? I'm sure it's the wrong one.)

Only 1 in 10 chance of dying. No biggie. Despite what you wrote, your common sense seems to be lacking.

I'm sure I'll be fine. I am not scared of life.

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Anonymous wrote:My youngest is just 6 weeks old so has not had her shots yet. And after hearing the stories of measles exposure in Fairfax and Loudon, I am so worried. She wasn't in any of the places listed, of course, but I have 2 older children that go to school, play sports, go to birthday parties, etc.
I think the non- vaxers should all have to go live on an island somewhere.

+1. I could have written this post. I even say the thing about the island all the time! It makes me sick that all these ignorant, selfish people are endangering our (and their own) children with their irresponsible, paranoid, anti-science b.s.

Your newborns are the ones who should be kept away from the general public. If you have any common sense and are concerned about illnesses, then you should be keeping your newborns home. This is a time-honored way of handling babies.

Well, in this case, newborns were exposed at the hospital in L&D. I don't think the parents are the ones without common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

You know there's no serologic immunity for tetanus, right? Medical personnel really love it when parents bring their kids in to the Emergency Department with puncture wounds or cuts that need to be stitched and the parents didn't bother to get the kids vaxed beforehand because they didn't think it was necessary. They usually change their minds once their toddler steps on a rusty can and slices their foot open, though.

(It is not a given that someone who gets a cut will get tetanus.)

Wanna hedge your bets? The disease and treatment are a mofo. The shot doesn't work too well if you're already symptomatic, btw. Stepping on a rusty can is an obvious indicator, but a shocking number of people don't report animal bites (because they don't want the family dog to be put down), or are unaware of small splinters or less serious cuts their older kids get, etc. Those are great ways to get tetanus if you're not vaxed.

It's a good bet they're not dying of tetanus at home to spare their pets. Seems an excellent bet that since it is so hush-hush, the did NOT get tetanus.

You're right, they probably aren't DYING of tetanus. And most likely neither will your kid, if she gets a puncture wound, is in a car accident, is bitten by a stray animal, has an undetected splinter that gets infected, etc. We have excellent medical care available here and will do whatever can be done to keep your child alive if you bring her in presenting with the symptoms of tetanus. If it's not caught right away, she will most likely spend several days undergoing painful treatments in the hospital, hopefully with no lasting effects. If it is caught immediately, you can expect a withering look from the attending physician and you'd better hope no one else is in the hospital with symptoms of polio, pertussis or any of the other nasty crap that most people are smart enough to vax for. But hey, feel free to ignore common sense and keep your kid unvaxed. Be my guest.

I thought tetanus was deadly but I just googled it and found that with treatment, less than ten percent of people who get it actually die. I can withstand withering looks from anyone, thanks! And again, we are all vaccinated in my house but we are not hysterical about it. (In other words, we actually have common sense and don't feel the need to call people names for thinking differently than we do. What cereal do you eat, BTW? I'm sure it's the wrong one.)

Only 1 in 10 chance of dying. No biggie. Despite what you wrote, your common sense seems to be lacking.

I'm sure I'll be fine. I am not scared of life.

That's the great thing about science. It doesn't matter what you think or feel. It is what it is.

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I thought tetanus was deadly but I just googled it and found that with treatment, less than ten percent of people who get it actually die. I can withstand withering looks from anyone, thanks! And again, we are all vaccinated in my house but we are not hysterical about it. (In other words, we actually have common sense and don't feel the need to call people names for thinking differently than we do. What cereal do you eat, BTW? I'm sure it's the wrong one.)

I was responding to the poster who didn't get their kid vaxed because they had her titers checked and apparently thought that was sufficient. It's not for certain diseases, including tetanus. If that person brings their unvaxed child into the Emergency Department presenting with the symptoms of tetanus (or pertussis, or polio, etc) , they can rightfully expect some hard questions about their decision not to get their child inoculated against it.

I'm not much of a cereal fan, but thanks for your concern.

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Anonymous wrote:My youngest is just 6 weeks old so has not had her shots yet. And after hearing the stories of measles exposure in Fairfax and Loudon, I am so worried. She wasn't in any of the places listed, of course, but I have 2 older children that go to school, play sports, go to birthday parties, etc.
I think the non- vaxers should all have to go live on an island somewhere.

+1. I could have written this post. I even say the thing about the island all the time! It makes me sick that all these ignorant, selfish people are endangering our (and their own) children with their irresponsible, paranoid, anti-science b.s.

Your newborns are the ones who should be kept away from the general public. If you have any common sense and are concerned about illnesses, then you should be keeping your newborns home. This is a time-honored way of handling babies.

Well, in this case, newborns were exposed at the hospital in L&D. I don't think the parents are the ones without common sense.

Really? The child was dragged to a birth in a hospital as well as Home Depot and the grocery store? Weird.

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I thought tetanus was deadly but I just googled it and found that with treatment, less than ten percent of people who get it actually die. I can withstand withering looks from anyone, thanks! And again, we are all vaccinated in my house but we are not hysterical about it. (In other words, we actually have common sense and don't feel the need to call people names for thinking differently than we do. What cereal do you eat, BTW? I'm sure it's the wrong one.)

I was responding to the poster who didn't get their kid vaxed because they had her titers checked and apparently thought that was sufficient. It's not for certain diseases, including tetanus. If that person brings their unvaxed child into the Emergency Department presenting with the symptoms of tetanus (or pertussis, or polio, etc) , they can rightfully expect some hard questions about their decision not to get their child inoculated against it.

I'm not much of a cereal fan, but thanks for your concern.

See, I knew there was something off about you. We love cereal, as do all people who embrace science with common sense.

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OP, no matter how righteous you think your anger is, you only hurt yourself by stressing over total strangers about a subject over which you have ZERO control.

Let what others do go and focus on what you can do.

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Anonymous wrote:My youngest is just 6 weeks old so has not had her shots yet. And after hearing the stories of measles exposure in Fairfax and Loudon, I am so worried. She wasn't in any of the places listed, of course, but I have 2 older children that go to school, play sports, go to birthday parties, etc.
I think the non- vaxers should all have to go live on an island somewhere.

+1. I could have written this post. I even say the thing about the island all the time! It makes me sick that all these ignorant, selfish people are endangering our (and their own) children with their irresponsible, paranoid, anti-science b.s.

Your newborns are the ones who should be kept away from the general public. If you have any common sense and are concerned about illnesses, then you should be keeping your newborns home. This is a time-honored way of handling babies.

Why are you being so specific about newborns? I don't have a newborn and your comment is irrelevant as well as ignorant. Your poor unvaccinated children can sicken or kill the rest of ours at pretty much any age. Go move to a deserted island. Or better yet, vaccinate your vulnerable children and start living up to your most basic parental duty: to protect them. Not to mention your civic duty to contribute to herd immunity. I have plenty of common sense and am happy to share it. Oh, and speaking of time-honored ways of protecting babies, there's another: it's called vaccination. Look it up.