airplane noise in foxhall village?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be great if the incessant "airplane noise" poster upped the dosage on their medication. It isn't a noise issue; it is a mental health issue.

I’m assuming you are referring to me because I have posted before and genuinely cannot imagine why anyone would buy in your neighborhood at the current premium prices.

Guess what: NONE of these posts above are mine! Most people have eyes and ears, and increasingly brains.

Ad hominem attacks don’t displace the need to discount the property under the flight path at 30%-50% to the rest of the comparable WOTP. But that’s not happening and you keep gaslighting the buyers so people will keep posting about it.

Tide will turn you’ll see.

I have followed the airplane noise discourse in this forum for years and I have always viewed this poster (and others who take the same view) as providing a public service. I moved to Glen Echo Heights from DC in the mid-2010s clueless about the DCA noise issue (and just didn't focus on it during open houses, walk-throughs, etc.). With the caveat that one's personal sensitivity to this kind of noise can vary, and with the further caveat that every neighborhood (and property) can be impacted differently, I found the airplane noise in Glen Echo to be borderline unbearable.

The noise is truly incessant (it's so bad that any short period of relative quiet becomes salient), and it starts unconscionably early (it was a dark day when the first flyover shifted from ~5:35am to ~5:12am a few years back). To paint a picture: if you wanted to play a little music while enjoying the back deck but didn't want to annoy neighbors, you had to adjust the volume every 60-90 seconds. That's obviously a first-world problem, but you get the point -- by choosing to live there, you are choosing to live with this constant issue. To each his own of course, but I can't believe what people pay (indeed, what I paid and what my buyer paid) to live under that flight path.

$0.02

[Anonymous]

🙏

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So most DC totally fine including WOTP but the Palisades, Foxhall, Kent awful

Wesley Heights?

You have to sit in front, ideally Monday morning, with dB meter and a timer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So most DC totally fine including WOTP but the Palisades, Foxhall, Kent awful

Wesley Heights?

You have to sit in front, ideally Monday morning, with dB meter and a timer.

does this mean wesley heights is good, ok, or bad?

[Anonymous]

It’s unclear. So it’s not bad. Sit in front of the house/es.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s unclear. So it’s not bad. Sit in front of the house/es.

I see. Yes, we are looking in that area and at one point I noticed constant flyovers. Another time crickets..maybe day of week, time of day? As a long time DC resident I have compassion for anyone subjected to needless airplane noise. Congress was off their rockers to change the over the river flight plan and subject residents to this. Is there no recourse?

[Anonymous]

Not really. And it could change. So if you notice relentless flight path nearby, and are risk averse, maybe not a good idea.

I found Monday am 8-9am a good time to sit in a car with the roof down or open or just on a doorstop and time and measure the noise. As the PP said, our own senses can sometimes betray us; best to be factual

Generally measuring in 10 minute increments on a couple of different occasions might help.
If you can see the fuselage no matter the noise that’s too much

If you just don’t want the airplanes at all; the area around the Observatory is a pretty wide circle where they cannot fly and includes Woodland, Woodley Park (the nicest parts), Mass Ave Heights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s unclear. So it’s not bad. Sit in front of the house/es.

I see. Yes, we are looking in that area and at one point I noticed constant flyovers. Another time crickets..maybe day of week, time of day? As a long time DC resident I have compassion for anyone subjected to needless airplane noise. Congress was off their rockers to change the over the river flight plan and subject residents to this. Is there no recourse?

The planes still fly over the river. The problem is that they are taking a much more concentrated flight path and are flying lower than they used to over residential neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Can we just say kudos to all you enduring that noise day in day out? I’m so sorry. I could not hack it in the Palisades or Foxhall or anywhere near.

We live in a no fly area and for the past 2 hours something’s been up (maybe the drone they found in the Potomac or Kamala is up to something) and it’s been on every few minutes or so. And I’m ready to pack it in! We have these fancy new construction/super windows; no matter, this is a disaster INSIDE (and I’m not even thinking about the jet fuel pollution 😓). The thought of getting used to any of this is out of the question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we just say kudos to all you enduring that noise day in day out? I’m so sorry. I could not hack it in the Palisades or Foxhall or anywhere near.

We live in a no fly area and for the past 2 hours something’s been up (maybe the drone they found in the Potomac or Kamala is up to something) and it’s been on every few minutes or so. And I’m ready to pack it in! We have these fancy new construction/super windows; no matter, this is a disaster INSIDE (and I’m not even thinking about the jet fuel pollution 😓). The thought of getting used to any of this is out of the question.

Where do you live?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not really. And it could change. So if you notice relentless flight path nearby, and are risk averse, maybe not a good idea.

I found Monday am 8-9am a good time to sit in a car with the roof down or open or just on a doorstop and time and measure the noise. As the PP said, our own senses can sometimes betray us; best to be factual

Generally measuring in 10 minute increments on a couple of different occasions might help.
If you can see the fuselage no matter the noise that’s too much

If you just don’t want the airplanes at all; the area around the Observatory is a pretty wide circle where they cannot fly and includes Woodland, Woodley Park (the nicest parts), Mass Ave Heights

Thank you. This is such a helpful response. You're a good egg.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s unclear. So it’s not bad. Sit in front of the house/es.

I see. Yes, we are looking in that area and at one point I noticed constant flyovers. Another time crickets..maybe day of week, time of day? As a long time DC resident I have compassion for anyone subjected to needless airplane noise. Congress was off their rockers to change the over the river flight plan and subject residents to this. Is there no recourse?

The planes still fly over the river. The problem is that they are taking a much more concentrated flight path and are flying lower than they used to over residential neighborhoods.

Crazy question, but are there not any congressmen or friends of congressmen in the impacted areas? I don't want to shift it to someone else, just people seem to think it was better before for everyone so why not go back? And adding more traffic to National seems... Crazy?

[Anonymous]

Three forces at play


Congresspersons have to be reelected every 2 years so probably any one of them would value that over personal comfort since technically they don’t reside here

Our Council and representatives don’t do as much as MD/VA

Our neighbors readily pretend this isn’t an issue in order to pretend maintain the property values

[Anonymous]

I live on Foxhall (rental) close to the intersection With MacArthur. I would not advise anyone to move here. Planes fly very low (at times you think you could throw a stone and hit them). The noise is relentless from about 5 am to 1 am. Not only do you have commercial planes, also choppers and other govt aircraft. It will make you lose your sanity. I am so grateful I can move out as soon as my lease is up, a plane goes by every 12 seconds. I pity anyone who buys here. Do yourself a favor and look elsewhere. Nothing is worth this level of torture.

[Anonymous]

Wow