Melamine found in Enfamil Lipil

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We'd have to start manufacturing our own medications again.

Abd we'd pay more for everything -- no more WalMart.


Why can'twe have more natural and holistic medicine? There are plants found all over the world that provide natural cures for various ailments: high blood pressure, diabetes, malaria, cancer.
Anonymous
Is diarrhea a symptom of ingesting melamine? I googled it and got lots of hits but then 'diarrhea' doesn't show up in any of the articles.
Anonymous
back to the real subject...what are people doing who use this formula?
Anonymous
We're continuing with it. It sounds like they found trace amounts in some samples of Enfamil Lipil, but no evidence of intentional additives or tampering. Knowing what I do about the food supply, my guess is that similar trace amounts would/will be found in other brands, depending on the sample. So I'm not ready to disrupt DD's routine given that she's doing well on Enfamil.

Of course, if the report showed higher levels of melamine or any evidence of intentional tampering (as in China to boost protein scores), I would change brands.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:back to the real subject...what are people doing who use this formula?


We didn't use Enfamil, but my friend did. And she switched her 7 mo to Similac with no problems. I realize that's not always the case for most babies. I think the trace amounts are indeed found across the board. If the melamine is used to clean machines between batches, the first few cans made shortly after a cleaning will likely have the highest concentration of melamine, which - again - is so small that it's insignificant.
Anonymous
This is the most irrational post I have ever read on DCUMs. If you put anything in a plastic bag it will have traces of melamine. If you put food in a plastic lunchbox it may have traces of melamine. There is a HUGE difference between the trace levels referenced in the article and the unforgivable mixing of melamine in formula in China (and elsewhere). Put crudely, it's like the difference between having your baby drink strong chlorine and having your baby drink DC water which contains chlorine. There are trace levels of lots of things in what we eat and drink and, with the right journalistic twist, they can sound like the biggest scare ever. But get a grip people. Your baby could get more melamine drinking from prepared juice bottles or yougurt containers than formula. Do the reasearch before you go nuts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the most irrational post I have ever read on DCUMs. If you put anything in a plastic bag it will have traces of melamine. If you put food in a plastic lunchbox it may have traces of melamine. There is a HUGE difference between the trace levels referenced in the article and the unforgivable mixing of melamine in formula in China (and elsewhere). Put crudely, it's like the difference between having your baby drink strong chlorine and having your baby drink DC water which contains chlorine. There are trace levels of lots of things in what we eat and drink and, with the right journalistic twist, they can sound like the biggest scare ever. But get a grip people. Your baby could get more melamine drinking from prepared juice bottles or yougurt containers than formula. Do the reasearch before you go nuts.


What do you make of the FDA's prior assertion that no amount of melamine is known to be safe, but yet "trace amounts" are ok? That's what sounds irrational to me. Do we just throw up our hands and say 'Oh well, it's a toxic world!" and not make ANY effort at all to protect our children?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the most irrational post I have ever read on DCUMs. If you put anything in a plastic bag it will have traces of melamine. If you put food in a plastic lunchbox it may have traces of melamine. There is a HUGE difference between the trace levels referenced in the article and the unforgivable mixing of melamine in formula in China (and elsewhere). Put crudely, it's like the difference between having your baby drink strong chlorine and having your baby drink DC water which contains chlorine. There are trace levels of lots of things in what we eat and drink and, with the right journalistic twist, they can sound like the biggest scare ever. But get a grip people. Your baby could get more melamine drinking from prepared juice bottles or yougurt containers than formula. Do the reasearch before you go nuts.


You can get the same point across by not being so nasty to people with infants ON FORMULA! I think people have been doing their research - calling the pediatricians, reading FDA reports, doing research on the uses of melamine.

Count to ten before you blast parents who care about the health of their babies.

And for what it's worth, here's an analogy: The amount of melamine found in formula is equal to a grain of salt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the most irrational post I have ever read on DCUMs. If you put anything in a plastic bag it will have traces of melamine. If you put food in a plastic lunchbox it may have traces of melamine. There is a HUGE difference between the trace levels referenced in the article and the unforgivable mixing of melamine in formula in China (and elsewhere). Put crudely, it's like the difference between having your baby drink strong chlorine and having your baby drink DC water which contains chlorine. There are trace levels of lots of things in what we eat and drink and, with the right journalistic twist, they can sound like the biggest scare ever. But get a grip people. Your baby could get more melamine drinking from prepared juice bottles or yougurt containers than formula. Do the reasearch before you go nuts.


Your post doesn't make sense. And why so angry?

Anonymous
My Daughter is 10 months old. When she was 6months old she starting getting very sick, she was vommitin blood--this went on several months. we had a endoscopy done--this is a snack like tool that they put down into your childs stomach--this procedure showed that she had a VERY large ulcer--nothing has helped--she has been treated with medicine and has not gained any weight in MONTHS. Now you tell me I started my daughter on Enfamil Lipil w/ iron back in July she started vommitin blood in August
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]My Daughter is 10 months old. When she was 6months old she starting getting very sick, she was vommitin blood--this went on several months. we had a endoscopy done--this is a snack like tool that they put down into your childs stomach--this procedure showed that she had a VERY large ulcer--nothing has helped--she has been treated with medicine and has not gained any weight in MONTHS. Now you tell me I started my daughter on Enfamil Lipil w/ iron back in July she started vommitin blood in August[/quote]

I'm sorry for your daughter's stomach problem, but it is not melamine that caused it. We, too, had stomach ulcers in our young child and he vomited blood. It happens and it is not fun (we did the endoscopy, too). But trace amounts of melamine aren't going to do that. I don't even think major amounts of melamine do that. Did your ulcer biopsy show an allergic component, or heliobacter pylori?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the most irrational post I have ever read on DCUMs. If you put anything in a plastic bag it will have traces of melamine. If you put food in a plastic lunchbox it may have traces of melamine. There is a HUGE difference between the trace levels referenced in the article and the unforgivable mixing of melamine in formula in China (and elsewhere). Put crudely, it's like the difference between having your baby drink strong chlorine and having your baby drink DC water which contains chlorine. There are trace levels of lots of things in what we eat and drink and, with the right journalistic twist, they can sound like the biggest scare ever. But get a grip people. Your baby could get more melamine drinking from prepared juice bottles or yougurt containers than formula. Do the reasearch before you go nuts.


What do you make of the FDA's prior assertion that no amount of melamine is known to be safe, but yet "trace amounts" are ok? That's what sounds irrational to me. Do we just throw up our hands and say 'Oh well, it's a toxic world!" and not make ANY effort at all to protect our children?


No, but neither do we pretend that any chemical exposure, however small, is dangerous. If you knew what was in your air, your water and even your bottled water, you would either accept that some exposure is safe or move to the edge of civilization and live alone.


Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My Daughter is 10 months old. When she was 6months old she starting getting very sick, she was vommitin blood--this went on several months. we had a endoscopy done--this is a snack like tool that they put down into your childs stomach--this procedure showed that she had a VERY large ulcer--nothing has helped--she has been treated with medicine and has not gained any weight in MONTHS. Now you tell me I started my daughter on Enfamil Lipil w/ iron back in July she started vommitin blood in August[/quote]

I'm sorry for your daughter's stomach problem, but it is not melamine that caused it. We, too, had stomach ulcers in our young child and he vomited blood. It happens and it is not fun (we did the endoscopy, too). But trace amounts of melamine aren't going to do that. I don't even think major amounts of melamine do that. Did your ulcer biopsy show an allergic component, or heliobacter pylori? [/quote]


yes a biopsy was done--no pylori--everything was negative--we even gave her 2 weeks of antibotics just incase. Kind of crazy that as soon as I took her off the Enfamil--she stopped with the blood--thank god she has gained one pound in a week. Was your child on Enfamil? what helped your child with the ulcer? please help?
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My Daughter is 10 months old. When she was 6months old she starting getting very sick, she was vommitin blood--this went on several months. we had a endoscopy done--this is a snack like tool that they put down into your childs stomach--this procedure showed that she had a VERY large ulcer--nothing has helped--she has been treated with medicine and has not gained any weight in MONTHS. Now you tell me I started my daughter on Enfamil Lipil w/ iron back in July she started vommitin blood in August[/quote]

I'm sorry for your daughter's stomach problem, but it is not melamine that caused it. We, too, had stomach ulcers in our young child and he vomited blood. It happens and it is not fun (we did the endoscopy, too). But trace amounts of melamine aren't going to do that. I don't even think major amounts of melamine do that. Did your ulcer biopsy show an allergic component, or heliobacter pylori? [/quote]


yes a biopsy was done--no pylori--everything was negative--we even gave her 2 weeks of antibotics just incase. Kind of crazy that as soon as I took her off the Enfamil--she stopped with the blood--thank god she has gained one pound in a week. Was your child on Enfamil? what helped your child with the ulcer? please help?[/quote]

We had to outgrow it. A nephew had something similar and a formula switch helped, but they had to use Pregestimil (sp?). It is wildly expensive and pretty gross, but that helped. I have heard lots of stories about children who had problems with one type of formula or another. I think it is often one of the food ingredients that they are either sensitive or allergic to. We blamed ours on milk allergy, even though the doctors were skeptical. But eventually I gave him some cheese when he started solids, and wouldn't you know, he took it fine. So then just to see I gave him milk and he drank that fine, too. Our minds were probably playing tricks on us, and the real problem was likely a congenital weakness in the stomach which improved as DS grew. We also did heavy Prevacid, which I expect your daugther already uses.

Gotta run, we have to get presents wrapped. Best of luck for your daughter.
Anonymous
PP -

Thanks for taking the time to post on a busy night. You've calmed some nerves.

Happy holidays!
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