| OP, can you please describe specific attitudes and behaviors that you have observed, that made you ask the initial question? And how do they differ in whites and blacks, given your blended heritage and experience? |
NP to this particular discussion. I find that many people assume you are grouchy if you aren't smiling. I'm black and when I'm concentrating or thinking about something, I can sometimes look intense. It doesn't mean I'm mad and/or grouchy. I've found that many people like to assign the "angry" tagline without any real merit. |
I'm not talking about drop-dead gorgeous. Just less sag and bag. |
You have white privilege, but unlike OP, I certainly don't assume that every smiling person has an awesome, stress-free life. |
OP here. Yes, this is a serious question... And I do thank everyone who has responded so far. The comments particularly from posters 12:15, 12:49, and especially 12:50 have helped me to realize that I have a lot to be happy about and that maybe I need to try a little harder. Even if I need to 'fake it til I make it' as one poster put it. |
they called it white privilege but then they defined it as being raised to believe everything would just come to you and that others were at fault if it didn't. That's an attitude, that's not WP in the sense of not having to experience racism or coming from family wealth or having parents who both went to college or whatever tangible aspect of white privilege you want to point to. That PP was saying that both the attitude and WP explain why white people are so happy. I've said why I think the attitude part is silly. What's left is WP itself. Just because racism can seriously hurt someone's life or make it harder does not mean that WP makes for a good or easy life. The amount of harm done to the person who experiences racism is much greater than whatever benefit white people get from being white. It's not one-to-one, where white people have great lives because they keep other people down. |
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My guess is it's that the white (and more affluent) population has a much bigger financial safety net (people they could borrow from, access to credit) than other minorities. When you know that the next car repair isn't going to bankrupt you (because you could potentially borrow the money from a friend or relative) you do become much more happy-go-lucky.
I would also hypothesize that minorities that are doing well are more stressed about daily life because they are far above the mean for their ethnic/family group. They tend to have more people needing their support within their family group. Whereas with non-hispanic whites most of them in this area are closer to the mean of their social/family circle and are less expected to help out financially or emotionally. |
Hang in there, OP! Hope things get better! |
OH good!! I was the 12:50 poster and the "fake it 'til you make it" poster so I am glad it maybe was helpful!! As the PP said, hang in there; we're all in it together! Bye!
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I'm white and I have the same intense face when I'm thinking, reading, or listening at a meeting. I try to smile other times to counteract my seriousness. Maybe it's unfair, maybe some people are likely to label me serious and you angry, I don't know. I'm sorry if that happens. And I do think that all women of any color are expected to be cheerier than men. It's sexist. |
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Black women’s culture of social support to be studied for prevention of military suicides
Veterans Affairs officials have announced that studying the uniquely supportive culture of black women might provide a key to addressing the spike in suicides occurring in the armed forces. According to the Los Angeles Times, “Suicides among U.S. military members have spiked this year, with an average of one suicide a day — the highest rate so far during a decade of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.” MSNBC reports that this is an 18 percent increase in military suicides compared to last year. While the government does not break down military suicides according to race, among the general population African-American women have the lowest suicide rate of any group. Surprisingly, white men die most often by their own hand. “The suicide rate among white men was 25.96 per 100,000 from 2005 to 2009, according to the Centerns for Disease Control and Prevention,” related Government Executive magazine in its piece on studying black women to reduce soldier suicides. “By comparison, the rate for black women was less than three suicides per 100,000.” http://thegrio.com/2012/06/13/black-womens-culture-of-social-support-to-be-studied-for-prevention-of-military-suicides/ |
I get this intense face too (I'm white) when I am thinking, reading, or listening. And at these times, I have been told, "Smile!!" I think this is a thing that, particularly, MEN like to say to young WOMEN and I personally find it annoying. Like women cannot be serious. There is a time to be serious and a time to be smiley. So I dont' think this is a black-white thing. I think this is an annoying man-woman thing. |
| It's deeply socially ingrained. If you can't say something nice don't say anything. Catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Courtesy in general. Also, most of us lack the assumption that the world is out to get us, so there's less of a chip on the shoulder on a daily basis. I hear a lot of AAs complaining about being "disrespected". That's not really on my personal radar. I guess all this,could add up to seeming happy. Though my HHI is less than half OP's. I have serious problems and worries in my life. I just don't think it's appropriate to put it on others through rude behavior on my part. |
Is the higher tendency of whites to commit suicide also socially ingrained? Also the weaker relationship bonds? |
| I do notice that black people seem to be more comfortable letting their real feelings show when they are NOT in a good mood. |