Accidental child death, prosecute the parents?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
OK, but my son almost drowned (pool), I almost drowned (beach), my daughter almost drowned (bath tub) we still go to the pool, and I still occasionally take my eyes off them. I am sure that tons of kids who actually drown had one or two close calls, like many other kids.
The point is that the mom did not see the first incident as a warning. She just focused on I forgot to get the child to daycare.
BTW, I have forgotten to PICK my kids up from daycare, just plain forgot them, then realized at 6 pm when the center called. It happened more than once.
Most of the time when kids are forgotten in cars, they DO NOT die.


This is disturbing, in that your point seems to be that forgetting to pick up your child or almost letting her drown in a bathtub is just part of raising kids. The rest of us read stories like the Murphys' and shake our heads in disbelief and say "how the HELL could she forget her child?!" but your reaction is "hey, it happens to all of us. Heck, I've nearly let my kids drown a couple of times and repeatedly forgotten to pick them up from daycare. I've got a lot going on."

You have come home from work -more than once - and never noticed your child was missing until the phone rang? This is hard to fathom.

Where did you get your info that most kids who are forgotten in cars don't die? In the summer it only takes 30 minutes for the temperature to become lethal.


They don't. It happens in cooler weather or the parents figure it out in time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Oh, so now it is the single moms who do crazy things.
I heard that companies that sell life insurance for children are the ones suspecting the parents. And life insurance for children is bought by the wealthier 2 parent families.
How about we prosecute everyone with life insurance for their child


Simmer down. Not what was meant. As in every single one of us who are parent. OK??
Anonymous
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NO! I am saying that people are stretched and busy, so as a result....SOMETIMES mistakes happen. No one wants mistakes, no one, but they happen.


I guess what I was trying to say is that your post really scares me. Running yourself so ragged that you fall asleep on the interstate or leave small children unsupervised for hours on end is not a "mistake." My concern was that your lifestyle in general sounds like it is endangering your children and others (your fellow drivers & their passengers), and that is something that I hope you will try to change. Truly, not trying to judge but this sounds dangerous to me.

I am a working mom of four and I'm stretched and busy too. Now, I'm not a doctor so no one's going to die if I screw up at work, so I don't presume to be under the kind of pressure you're under in your job. And I freely admit I make mistakes every day, plenty of them. I forget to pay a bill or return a phone call. I even forgot one of my kids' doctors appointments recently. But I don't regularly drive around falling asleep at the wheel or pass out on the couch leaving my toddler to run amok for two hours. When that is just part of your daily life, rather than a huge wake-up call that something's gotta give, it is not a "mistake," it's just irresponsible.

And, as has been stated multiple times here, the first time this mom left Ryan in the car was arguably a mistake. The second time, it is a pattern of behavior.


Try to take a step back and look at the general point. The article makes a case that many parents (mothers) are pushing themselves too much. What too much is varies, but sometimes we find out when bad things happen.



But she had fair warning when it happened the first time. That was her wake up call. Yes, the article points out that many of us are overly scheduled and overly tired, etc. This woman had her "slap in the face" and should have made changes accordingly. She didn't. How many chances do people get when it comes to their children's safety? We don't need some blogger pointing out that we're overly scheduled. She had a very dramatic wake up call and she essentially chose to ignore it.


OK, but my son almost drowned (pool), I almost drowned (beach), my daughter almost drowned (bath tub) we still go to the pool, and I still occasionally take my eyes off them. I am sure that tons of kids who actually drown had one or two close calls, like many other kids.
The point is that the mom did not see the first incident as a warning. She just focused on I forgot to get the child to daycare.
BTW, I have forgotten to PICK my kids up from daycare, just plain forgot them, then realized at 6 pm when the center called. It happened more than once.
Most of the time when kids are forgotten in cars, they DO NOT die.


I'll say it. You're a mess. You need to be more responsible.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
NO! I am saying that people are stretched and busy, so as a result....SOMETIMES mistakes happen. No one wants mistakes, no one, but they happen.


I guess what I was trying to say is that your post really scares me. Running yourself so ragged that you fall asleep on the interstate or leave small children unsupervised for hours on end is not a "mistake." My concern was that your lifestyle in general sounds like it is endangering your children and others (your fellow drivers & their passengers), and that is something that I hope you will try to change. Truly, not trying to judge but this sounds dangerous to me.

I am a working mom of four and I'm stretched and busy too. Now, I'm not a doctor so no one's going to die if I screw up at work, so I don't presume to be under the kind of pressure you're under in your job. And I freely admit I make mistakes every day, plenty of them. I forget to pay a bill or return a phone call. I even forgot one of my kids' doctors appointments recently. But I don't regularly drive around falling asleep at the wheel or pass out on the couch leaving my toddler to run amok for two hours. When that is just part of your daily life, rather than a huge wake-up call that something's gotta give, it is not a "mistake," it's just irresponsible.

And, as has been stated multiple times here, the first time this mom left Ryan in the car was arguably a mistake. The second time, it is a pattern of behavior.


Try to take a step back and look at the general point. The article makes a case that many parents (mothers) are pushing themselves too much. What too much is varies, but sometimes we find out when bad things happen.



But she had fair warning when it happened the first time. That was her wake up call. Yes, the article points out that many of us are overly scheduled and overly tired, etc. This woman had her "slap in the face" and should have made changes accordingly. She didn't. How many chances do people get when it comes to their children's safety? We don't need some blogger pointing out that we're overly scheduled. She had a very dramatic wake up call and she essentially chose to ignore it.


OK, but my son almost drowned (pool), I almost drowned (beach), my daughter almost drowned (bath tub) we still go to the pool, and I still occasionally take my eyes off them. I am sure that tons of kids who actually drown had one or two close calls, like many other kids.
The point is that the mom did not see the first incident as a warning. She just focused on I forgot to get the child to daycare.
BTW, I have forgotten to PICK my kids up from daycare, just plain forgot them, then realized at 6 pm when the center called. It happened more than once.
Most of the time when kids are forgotten in cars, they DO NOT die.


I'll say it. You're a mess. You need to be more responsible.


I agree....you need to reexamine yourself and realize that your thinking is not normal or healthy. Go see a doctor.
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