first lady and "dr." jill biden

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one called her Dr. Jill until her husband became VP. Bothers me too. I went to college where we addressed our professors as Mr. or Mrs, not Dr.

Seriously? I have never heard of a college where professors are addressed as anything other than "Professor" or "Dr." (if they indeed have a doctorate.) In fact, I know that this is a common irritant for professors, to be called Mr. or Mrs. Jill Biden is well educated, and the fact that she teaches at a community college doesn't lessen her credentials.

Anyway, I don't get what your beef is. J.D's are traditionally not referred to as "Doctors" and in, fact, the true doctoral degree for lawyers is the Doctor of Jurisprudence.

You have it backwards: the research doctorate is an LLD (Doctor of Legal Letters) and carries the courtesy title of Dr. when appropriate; JD is Doctor of Jurisprudence and usually does not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why the need for the title outside of an educational/work environment? I have no problem with the hosts of the view calling her Dr. Biden, but unless she was my teacher, I'd call her Ms. Biden.

It's one thing if you are on a first name basis with someone, but otherwise, no, MDs, EdDs, PhDs, DVMs, etc are not Mr or Mrs... They are Dr, period, regardless of context, in my experience.

Nope, no thanks. A person with a degree is no more worthy of a title of respect than a poor street kid in Honduras. I would refer to them as Dr. in the appropriate work/educational setting.

Fine, as long as the kid completed some sort of doctoral degree. It is a descriptive title, not a measure of a person's worth. Is a female no more deserving of being called Ms or Mrs than a man?

[Anonymous]

I cannot BELIEVE anyone cares about this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"No way. I work with a ton of PhD's (many of whom are not that bright) and none of them go by doctor. Occasionally, some of them with add ", PhD" after their name on a professional paper or something, but that's about it. "

Ditto.

I take it that neither of you teaches at a college or university. Jill Biden does--therefore, calling her Prof. or Dr. is perfectly within reason.

A JD who is also a professor (say, at a law school), BTW, would be called Prof. or Dr. Since Michelle Obama does not teach in higher ed, she does not have this title.

Context, people, context.

OMG, I KNOW your writing style. Do you attend Georgetown? Recently moved back from Baton Rouge? Divorced? Uber smart?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"No way. I work with a ton of PhD's (many of whom are not that bright) and none of them go by doctor. Occasionally, some of them with add ", PhD" after their name on a professional paper or something, but that's about it. "

Ditto.

I take it that neither of you teaches at a college or university. Jill Biden does--therefore, calling her Prof. or Dr. is perfectly within reason.

A JD who is also a professor (say, at a law school), BTW, would be called Prof. or Dr. Since Michelle Obama does not teach in higher ed, she does not have this title.

Context, people, context.

A JD who teaches would be called Dr. if he or she also has a PhD or other degree that uses Dr. like MD, DO, EdD, etc. If it's just a JD even as a professor he or she would not be called Dr. rather Prof.

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