Does anyone know how the college admissions results this year for students in the blair high school magnet program?

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Anonymous wrote:Were results dismal compare it to past years because Ostrander isn't there ?

A lot of kids may choose affortable schools and UMD as its a great school. That doesn't mean results are dismal.

Many of the kids might not have unlimited resources. I would think they got a full ride at UMd and most likely will go to grad school so why pay for undergrad?

Very few get a full ride to UMD.

Lots of magnet kids do get the presidential scholar merit aid which is $20K for four years. My kid got that from RMIB.

Actually, several students from magnets do get rejected to UMD, but mostly for CS/eng.

RM families are generally pretty comfortable. They only take so many students per school so it's not surprising that not all don't get in.

Comfortable doesn’t mean they have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend per kid on college. Comfortable puts them in the donut hole.

+1 and this is why many end up at UMD.

If we had to, we could shell out $100k/year, but it would wipe out our cash savings, and we could only do that for one kid. What about the other kid? The expectation that the parents should wipe out all savings before being eligible for any FA is crazy.

Each family has its own priorities: some spend money on houses, some on traveling, some on restaurants, some renew their cars every 3-4 years.

There are also families, that consider the education of their kids the no. 1 priority. 100k/year is huge but this is how much you have to pay for top private education nowadays, like it or not. We are discussing here the top of top schools in the world. If you have a kid that's smart enough to get to MIT, I bet he/she will be super successful in his life and will land a high paid job after graduation. They will make enough money to pay the loans.
This is not just a parent problem but a family decision. Your child is mature enough to understand the situation and take a decision together with you.

Blair's education is well preparing them for any kind of college challenge. Does it worth going into debts to continue the academic excellence journey? Our family decided it worth every penny but realities might be different. And, of course, the inteded major matters (a lot)!

Yet if your kid is smart enough to get into MIT they have a great future for them wherever they go.

We have a net worth of more than $4.5m and spending more than $1m on education that could be had for $200k is not a wise financial decision for us. Try asking this in the money forum and see what answers you get. (There was a thread on this recently and the OP was slammed as too poor to afford it with millions in networth)

It would be $400K vs. $200K... or did you have three-four kids, which is a personal choice and then that's a different issue.

Having any number of kids or none is a personal choice. What’s your point?

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Anonymous wrote:For useful results, you also need to know how many applied, not just where they are headed. Lots of high-achieving MCPS students prioritize UMD because it’s such a great financial deal.

Exactly, usually about a third of the class ends at Ivies, but many who would or were admitted just can't afford it. There are a lot of doughnut-holed families. People even making decent money can't usually shell out half their take home pay fro college.

Donut hole families are a myth, and generally, it's people who bought more expensive homes and live more expensive lifestyles. We are in that situation and if we need to, we could do it but we made very specific life choices to allow us to do it.

And exactly how are they a “myth”????

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Anonymous wrote:For useful results, you also need to know how many applied, not just where they are headed. Lots of high-achieving MCPS students prioritize UMD because it’s such a great financial deal.

Exactly, usually about a third of the class ends at Ivies, but many who would or were admitted just can't afford it. There are a lot of doughnut-holed families. People even making decent money can't usually shell out half their take home pay fro college.

Donut hole families are a myth, and generally, it's people who bought more expensive homes and live more expensive lifestyles. We are in that situation and if we need to, we could do it but we made very specific life choices to allow us to do it.

And exactly how are they a “myth”????

Its something people made up to complain about college prices, which are absurdly high, to justify their lifestyle choices.

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Anonymous wrote:Were results dismal compare it to past years because Ostrander isn't there ?

A lot of kids may choose affortable schools and UMD as its a great school. That doesn't mean results are dismal.

Many of the kids might not have unlimited resources. I would think they got a full ride at UMd and most likely will go to grad school so why pay for undergrad?

Very few get a full ride to UMD.

Lots of magnet kids do get the presidential scholar merit aid which is $20K for four years. My kid got that from RMIB.

Actually, several students from magnets do get rejected to UMD, but mostly for CS/eng.

RM families are generally pretty comfortable. They only take so many students per school so it's not surprising that not all don't get in.

Comfortable doesn’t mean they have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend per kid on college. Comfortable puts them in the donut hole.

+1 and this is why many end up at UMD.

If we had to, we could shell out $100k/year, but it would wipe out our cash savings, and we could only do that for one kid. What about the other kid? The expectation that the parents should wipe out all savings before being eligible for any FA is crazy.

Each family has its own priorities: some spend money on houses, some on traveling, some on restaurants, some renew their cars every 3-4 years.

There are also families, that consider the education of their kids the no. 1 priority. 100k/year is huge but this is how much you have to pay for top private education nowadays, like it or not. We are discussing here the top of top schools in the world. If you have a kid that's smart enough to get to MIT, I bet he/she will be super successful in his life and will land a high paid job after graduation. They will make enough money to pay the loans.
This is not just a parent problem but a family decision. Your child is mature enough to understand the situation and take a decision together with you.

Blair's education is well preparing them for any kind of college challenge. Does it worth going into debts to continue the academic excellence journey? Our family decided it worth every penny but realities might be different. And, of course, the inteded major matters (a lot)!

The well known Dale & Krueger study found that students who are qualified to be admitted to elite schools but attended elsewhere did equally well in terms of outcomes as those who actually attended such schools.

"We find that the return to college selectivity is sizeable for both cohorts in regression models that control for variables commonly observed by researchers, such as student high school GPA and SAT scores. However, when we adjust for unobserved student ability by controlling for the average SAT score of the colleges that students applied to, our estimates of the return to college selectivity fall substantially and are generally indistinguishable from zero. There were notable exceptions for certain subgroups. For black and Hispanic students and for students who come from less-educated families (in terms of their parents' education), the estimates of the return to college selectivity remain large, even in models that adjust for unobserved student characteristics."

https://www.nber.org/papers/w17159

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Anonymous wrote:For useful results, you also need to know how many applied, not just where they are headed. Lots of high-achieving MCPS students prioritize UMD because it’s such a great financial deal.

Exactly, usually about a third of the class ends at Ivies, but many who would or were admitted just can't afford it. There are a lot of doughnut-holed families. People even making decent money can't usually shell out half their take home pay fro college.

Donut hole families are a myth, and generally, it's people who bought more expensive homes and live more expensive lifestyles. We are in that situation and if we need to, we could do it but we made very specific life choices to allow us to do it.

And exactly how are they a “myth”????

Its something people made up to complain about college prices, which are absurdly high, to justify their lifestyle choices.

That is a very bizarre take considering that the price of higher education has accelerated at a far faster rate than inflation has.

So if the price of a college education at an elite school reaches $1 million a year, anyone who says they can't afford it is just not trying hard enough?

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Anonymous wrote:For useful results, you also need to know how many applied, not just where they are headed. Lots of high-achieving MCPS students prioritize UMD because it’s such a great financial deal.

Exactly, usually about a third of the class ends at Ivies, but many who would or were admitted just can't afford it. There are a lot of doughnut-holed families. People even making decent money can't usually shell out half their take home pay fro college.

My Blair kid (4.8 WGPA, 1600 SAT) didn't apply to elite schools because we couldn't afford them.

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Anonymous wrote:Were results dismal compare it to past years because Ostrander isn't there ?

A lot of kids may choose affortable schools and UMD as its a great school. That doesn't mean results are dismal.

Many of the kids might not have unlimited resources. I would think they got a full ride at UMd and most likely will go to grad school so why pay for undergrad?

Very few get a full ride to UMD.

Lots of magnet kids do get the presidential scholar merit aid which is $20K for four years. My kid got that from RMIB.

Actually, several students from magnets do get rejected to UMD, but mostly for CS/eng.

RM families are generally pretty comfortable. They only take so many students per school so it's not surprising that not all don't get in.

Comfortable doesn’t mean they have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend per kid on college. Comfortable puts them in the donut hole.

+1 and this is why many end up at UMD.

If we had to, we could shell out $100k/year, but it would wipe out our cash savings, and we could only do that for one kid. What about the other kid? The expectation that the parents should wipe out all savings before being eligible for any FA is crazy.

Each family has its own priorities: some spend money on houses, some on traveling, some on restaurants, some renew their cars every 3-4 years.

There are also families, that consider the education of their kids the no. 1 priority. 100k/year is huge but this is how much you have to pay for top private education nowadays, like it or not. We are discussing here the top of top schools in the world. If you have a kid that's smart enough to get to MIT, I bet he/she will be super successful in his life and will land a high paid job after graduation. They will make enough money to pay the loans.
This is not just a parent problem but a family decision. Your child is mature enough to understand the situation and take a decision together with you.

Blair's education is well preparing them for any kind of college challenge. Does it worth going into debts to continue the academic excellence journey? Our family decided it worth every penny but realities might be different. And, of course, the inteded major matters (a lot)!

Yet if your kid is smart enough to get into MIT they have a great future for them wherever they go.

We have a net worth of more than $4.5m and spending more than $1m on education that could be had for $200k is not a wise financial decision for us. Try asking this in the money forum and see what answers you get. (There was a thread on this recently and the OP was slammed as too poor to afford it with millions in networth)

You didn't get what the person was trying to say!
Discussion was not about money forums but about if it worth attending MIT at 100k/year or not. Money is not everything and there are families that prioritize education over other things in life.
From a pure financial perspective, the best approach is Montgomery College -> UMD and pretty much everyone is able to take that path to gain cheap education. Still some people will take loans to go to MIT. Of course, only few get admitted there, this being an hypothetical discussion for most.

Prioritizing education =/= Sending kids to elite schools

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Anonymous wrote:For useful results, you also need to know how many applied, not just where they are headed. Lots of high-achieving MCPS students prioritize UMD because it’s such a great financial deal.

Exactly, usually about a third of the class ends at Ivies, but many who would or were admitted just can't afford it. There are a lot of doughnut-holed families. People even making decent money can't usually shell out half their take home pay fro college.

Donut hole families are a myth, and generally, it's people who bought more expensive homes and live more expensive lifestyles. We are in that situation and if we need to, we could do it but we made very specific life choices to allow us to do it.

And exactly how are they a “myth”????

Its something people made up to complain about college prices, which are absurdly high, to justify their lifestyle choices.

That is a very bizarre take considering that the price of higher education has accelerated at a far faster rate than inflation has.

So if the price of a college education at an elite school reaches $1 million a year, anyone who says they can't afford it is just not trying hard enough?

We aren't talking a million a year and if they do, you will make the choice if your kids will attend. And, if you have a million dollar home, and vacation a few times a year plus expensive clothing, dining out, and cars, no empathy.

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Anonymous wrote:Were results dismal compare it to past years because Ostrander isn't there ?

A lot of kids may choose affortable schools and UMD as its a great school. That doesn't mean results are dismal.

Many of the kids might not have unlimited resources. I would think they got a full ride at UMd and most likely will go to grad school so why pay for undergrad?

Very few get a full ride to UMD.

Lots of magnet kids do get the presidential scholar merit aid which is $20K for four years. My kid got that from RMIB.

Actually, several students from magnets do get rejected to UMD, but mostly for CS/eng.

RM families are generally pretty comfortable. They only take so many students per school so it's not surprising that not all don't get in.

Comfortable doesn’t mean they have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend per kid on college. Comfortable puts them in the donut hole.

+1 and this is why many end up at UMD.

If we had to, we could shell out $100k/year, but it would wipe out our cash savings, and we could only do that for one kid. What about the other kid? The expectation that the parents should wipe out all savings before being eligible for any FA is crazy.

Each family has its own priorities: some spend money on houses, some on traveling, some on restaurants, some renew their cars every 3-4 years.

There are also families, that consider the education of their kids the no. 1 priority. 100k/year is huge but this is how much you have to pay for top private education nowadays, like it or not. We are discussing here the top of top schools in the world. If you have a kid that's smart enough to get to MIT, I bet he/she will be super successful in his life and will land a high paid job after graduation. They will make enough money to pay the loans.
This is not just a parent problem but a family decision. Your child is mature enough to understand the situation and take a decision together with you.

Blair's education is well preparing them for any kind of college challenge. Does it worth going into debts to continue the academic excellence journey? Our family decided it worth every penny but realities might be different. And, of course, the inteded major matters (a lot)!

Yet if your kid is smart enough to get into MIT they have a great future for them wherever they go.

We have a net worth of more than $4.5m and spending more than $1m on education that could be had for $200k is not a wise financial decision for us. Try asking this in the money forum and see what answers you get. (There was a thread on this recently and the OP was slammed as too poor to afford it with millions in networth)

You didn't get what the person was trying to say!
Discussion was not about money forums but about if it worth attending MIT at 100k/year or not. Money is not everything and there are families that prioritize education over other things in life.
From a pure financial perspective, the best approach is Montgomery College -> UMD and pretty much everyone is able to take that path to gain cheap education. Still some people will take loans to go to MIT. Of course, only few get admitted there, this being an hypothetical discussion for most.

Prioritizing education =/= Sending kids to elite schools

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Anonymous wrote:Were results dismal compare it to past years because Ostrander isn't there ?

A lot of kids may choose affortable schools and UMD as its a great school. That doesn't mean results are dismal.

Many of the kids might not have unlimited resources. I would think they got a full ride at UMd and most likely will go to grad school so why pay for undergrad?

Very few get a full ride to UMD.

Lots of magnet kids do get the presidential scholar merit aid which is $20K for four years. My kid got that from RMIB.

Actually, several students from magnets do get rejected to UMD, but mostly for CS/eng.

RM families are generally pretty comfortable. They only take so many students per school so it's not surprising that not all don't get in.

Comfortable doesn’t mean they have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend per kid on college. Comfortable puts them in the donut hole.

+1 and this is why many end up at UMD.

If we had to, we could shell out $100k/year, but it would wipe out our cash savings, and we could only do that for one kid. What about the other kid? The expectation that the parents should wipe out all savings before being eligible for any FA is crazy.

Each family has its own priorities: some spend money on houses, some on traveling, some on restaurants, some renew their cars every 3-4 years.

There are also families, that consider the education of their kids the no. 1 priority. 100k/year is huge but this is how much you have to pay for top private education nowadays, like it or not. We are discussing here the top of top schools in the world. If you have a kid that's smart enough to get to MIT, I bet he/she will be super successful in his life and will land a high paid job after graduation. They will make enough money to pay the loans.
This is not just a parent problem but a family decision. Your child is mature enough to understand the situation and take a decision together with you.

Blair's education is well preparing them for any kind of college challenge. Does it worth going into debts to continue the academic excellence journey? Our family decided it worth every penny but realities might be different. And, of course, the inteded major matters (a lot)!

Yet if your kid is smart enough to get into MIT they have a great future for them wherever they go.

We have a net worth of more than $4.5m and spending more than $1m on education that could be had for $200k is not a wise financial decision for us. Try asking this in the money forum and see what answers you get. (There was a thread on this recently and the OP was slammed as too poor to afford it with millions in networth)

You didn't get what the person was trying to say!
Discussion was not about money forums but about if it worth attending MIT at 100k/year or not. Money is not everything and there are families that prioritize education over other things in life.
From a pure financial perspective, the best approach is Montgomery College -> UMD and pretty much everyone is able to take that path to gain cheap education. Still some people will take loans to go to MIT. Of course, only few get admitted there, this being an hypothetical discussion for most.

Prioritizing education =/= Sending kids to elite schools

We prioritize education. We don't live in a fancy home, take vacations, but do splurge on extracurriculars, tutoring and other things education related but there is no way we can afford $100K a year and pay for grad school but our kids know that and are reasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:For useful results, you also need to know how many applied, not just where they are headed. Lots of high-achieving MCPS students prioritize UMD because it’s such a great financial deal.

Exactly, usually about a third of the class ends at Ivies, but many who would or were admitted just can't afford it. There are a lot of doughnut-holed families. People even making decent money can't usually shell out half their take home pay fro college.

My Blair kid (4.8 WGPA, 1600 SAT) didn't apply to elite schools because we couldn't afford them.

+1, mine will not apply either as its not a good fit for their personality and cost.

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Anonymous wrote:For useful results, you also need to know how many applied, not just where they are headed. Lots of high-achieving MCPS students prioritize UMD because it’s such a great financial deal.

Exactly, usually about a third of the class ends at Ivies, but many who would or were admitted just can't afford it. There are a lot of doughnut-holed families. People even making decent money can't usually shell out half their take home pay fro college.

Donut hole families are a myth, and generally, it's people who bought more expensive homes and live more expensive lifestyles. We are in that situation and if we need to, we could do it but we made very specific life choices to allow us to do it.

And exactly how are they a “myth”????

Its something people made up to complain about college prices, which are absurdly high, to justify their lifestyle choices.

That is a very bizarre take considering that the price of higher education has accelerated at a far faster rate than inflation has.

So if the price of a college education at an elite school reaches $1 million a year, anyone who says they can't afford it is just not trying hard enough?

We aren't talking a million a year and if they do, you will make the choice if your kids will attend. And, if you have a million dollar home, and vacation a few times a year plus expensive clothing, dining out, and cars, no empathy.

No one cares what you think about their spending habits.

At what monetary point do you stop thinking that people just need to try harder and forgo avocado toast? $120k/year? $140? $160?

We are already close to $100k/year. Where is the breaking point for you?

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Anonymous wrote:For useful results, you also need to know how many applied, not just where they are headed. Lots of high-achieving MCPS students prioritize UMD because it’s such a great financial deal.

Exactly, usually about a third of the class ends at Ivies, but many who would or were admitted just can't afford it. There are a lot of doughnut-holed families. People even making decent money can't usually shell out half their take home pay fro college.

My Blair kid (4.8 WGPA, 1600 SAT) didn't apply to elite schools because we couldn't afford them.

Neither will mine, though his GPA is 4.95 and his SAT 1570

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Anonymous wrote:For useful results, you also need to know how many applied, not just where they are headed. Lots of high-achieving MCPS students prioritize UMD because it’s such a great financial deal.

Exactly, usually about a third of the class ends at Ivies, but many who would or were admitted just can't afford it. There are a lot of doughnut-holed families. People even making decent money can't usually shell out half their take home pay fro college.

Donut hole families are a myth, and generally, it's people who bought more expensive homes and live more expensive lifestyles. We are in that situation and if we need to, we could do it but we made very specific life choices to allow us to do it.

And exactly how are they a “myth”????

Its something people made up to complain about college prices, which are absurdly high, to justify their lifestyle choices.

That is a very bizarre take considering that the price of higher education has accelerated at a far faster rate than inflation has.

So if the price of a college education at an elite school reaches $1 million a year, anyone who says they can't afford it is just not trying hard enough?

We aren't talking a million a year and if they do, you will make the choice if your kids will attend. And, if you have a million dollar home, and vacation a few times a year plus expensive clothing, dining out, and cars, no empathy.

If you have two or more kids Then you are talking about close to a million dollars

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Anonymous wrote:The number of students that accepted to be listed in the magazine are about 60 out of ~100. My kid ('26) knows at least 3 more accepted at UMD and not in the magazine.
He never heard about a colleague being accepted at MIT and going to UMD (that person might very well exist).

We'd probably choose UMD over MIT because of the cost and wanting to pay for grad school. Not everyone can pay $100K a year.

This kid got a free ride to MIT (Questbridge) and turned it down for UMD

So this kid got free admission to MIT through Questbridge but decided to go to UMD (probably also free do to low income). 🤔
Problem here is Questbridge is binding, so he couldn't turn down MIT offer. Fishy ...

Stop embarrassing yourself in a permanently archived forum.

MIT Questbridge is not binding.

https://questbridge.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/218777167-Is-QuestBridge-binding

Make sense. He got admitted through a less competitive low income program (Questbridge), got scared by the possibility to attend, and picked instead a less intense but still great school like UMD.

I don't know this kid, but that's the least generous read I've ever seen, and honestly either racist, classist, or both.

There are a million reasons someone would decide not to attend MIT, but my first guess is that a Questbridge kid is also a kid who has more familial responsibilities than your average UMC white kid from Potomac, and they may have wanted to stay close for that reason. OR...that kid realized they were going to be shockingly underrepresented at MIT, and might have wanted to pursue their education in a space that is more culturally competent.