Wake, Bucknell, and U Richmond
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Anonymous
| Winston is dying, Richmond is ok and Lewisburg is really small. |
Anonymous
I would take Bucknell for finance over Wake any day. |
Anonymous
+1. Check placement stats of recent grads. |
Anonymous
I posted before about how the Richmond students weren't esoterically intellectual (they're not taking, like, Sanskrit or modernist opera studies) but they all seemed serious and studious, more so than several colleges we toured. |
Anonymous
I disagree --Winston Salem is 200 times better now than it was ten to twenty years ago. Most of the Wake grad students now chose to live in downtown because of all the new housing, restaurants and bars. Hotel scene is also much better since the two Kimptons opened. The Grounds development is going to be a boon to both the university and the city. |
Anonymous
The Bucknell pipeline poster has arrived. |
Anonymous
Strong disagree. There are differences in reputation, culture, and outcomes. But I agree rankings are indeed silly. |
Anonymous
I know people love to give the Bucknell pipeline poster a hard time, but is she wrong? I'm not suggesting she is or isn't, I don't know. And I'm too lazy to do the work myself. |
Anonymous
Hence the “vibe and offerings differ and only the kid can decide their fit.” All are great schools. |
Anonymous
The "strong disagree" was directed at the "all are relatively equal" statement in the original comment. These schools are not relatively equal. Does fit batter? Yes, of course. But admissions standards and outcomes vary by school. All strong schools, yes. Equal, no. |
Anonymous
| Who wants to spend 4 years in Lewisburg Pa? Nobody! Between Wake and URichmond advantage Wake due to ACC sports. |
Anonymous
| Wake over the other 2, no doubt. But as between Richmond and Bucknell, that boils down to a personal fit question, as they are basically equivalent in size, ranking, prestige, ROI, and cost. I've visited both more than once, and personally prefer the vibe at Bucknell over that of Richmond. Bucknell seems livelier, the campus "buzzier" (Richmond is a bit staid by comparison), and the kids seemed (at least to me) friendlier and more sociable. |
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What do we think about the Fiske Guide in terms of accurately capturing the vibe of a student body?
It describes students at Bucknell as “conservative and materially conscious.” My research indicates 65% women at Wake are in sororities, 56% at Richmond, and 40% at Bucknell. I get the sense that Greek life in general is becoming more popular on all campuses that offer it. |
Anonymous
Here's ChatGPT's take, with sources: Here’s a revised, tighter version: For IB/finance/consulting, I’d give Wake Forest the edge over Bucknell, but neither is a true “target” for Wall Street. The best IB-specific source I found, Peak Frameworks, ranks Wake Forest #38 on its investment banking target-school list and calls it a “lower semi-target.” It says Wake has “fair placement” into IB, with a disproportionate share going to Bank of America and J.P. Morgan, and that 94% of Wake’s tracked IB hires were into bulge brackets. [1] Mergers & Inquisitions separately describes Wake Forest as “more of a semi-target,” meaning IB is possible, but it is not one of the top universities for the field. [2] I did not find Bucknell on Peak Frameworks’ top-60 IB target-school list, and M&I does not list Bucknell in its semi-target discussion. That does not mean Bucknell cannot place into IB, but it suggests it is not generally treated as a standard IB semi-target in the same way Wake is. [1][2] Bucknell still has strong finance outcomes. Its Freeman Class of 2024 report says Freeman grads went 59% into financial services and 15% into consulting; finance majors averaged $88,903 starting salary. [3] Bucknell also reports employers including BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Morgan Stanley, Fidelity, Deloitte, PwC, and RSM. [4] Wake’s business-school outcomes are stronger overall: Poets&Quants reports 98.7% of Wake Forest business job-seeking grads employed within three months, 98% internship participation, and $85,806 average starting salary; listed employers include JPMorgan, Barclays, Deloitte, Goldman Sachs, UBS, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, AlphaSights, and Jefferies. [5] My read: for pure IB, Wake Forest is the clearer semi-target / lower-semi-target path and appears to place better into bulge-bracket banking. Bucknell is strong for finance broadly and has legitimate alumni/employer outcomes, but the publicly available IB-target data is weaker. For consulting, both are credible, but Wake’s broader business-school placement data and employer list still give it the edge. [1] Peak Frameworks, Wake Forest University IB placement / IB target-school methodology. [2] Mergers & Inquisitions, IB target-school guide and Wake Forest comment. [3] Bucknell University, Class of 2024 Post-Graduate Survey. [4] Bucknell University, Bucknell Outcomes. [5] Poets&Quants, Wake Forest School of Business profile. |
Anonymous
I think those numbers are too high, across the board and I have a kid at Wake. What I have seen, across the spectrum of my dd's high school friends, is that many rush and then drop if they don't get what they consider a top tier house. or drop their sorority sometime sophomore or junior year. I'd try to talk to actual students from your kid's high school who are now in college or during a campus visit instead of relying on college guides which are barely edited from edition to edition. |