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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are these schools as wealthy and “unserious” as DCUM purports? They are the right size, have the right academic programs, and are the right distance for DD, but she doesn’t want a school with a bunch of full pay kids who don’t prioritize academics. She also doesn’t want a social scene dominated by Greek life.

I know we should beware of stereotypes, but I’ve seen similar comments over and over about the typical kid who goes to these schools. Thoughts?[/quote]

Wake is serious and much better academic quality than the other two. Wake has smarter peers based on naviance data from our region. [/quote]

I would take Bucknell for finance over Wake any day.  [/quote]

The Bucknell pipeline poster has arrived.[/quote]

I know people love to give the Bucknell pipeline poster a hard time, but is she wrong? I'm not suggesting she is or isn't, I don't know. And I'm too lazy to do the work myself.[/quote]

Here's ChatGPT's take, with sources:

Here’s a revised, tighter version:

For IB/finance/consulting, I’d give Wake Forest the edge over Bucknell, but neither is a true “target” for Wall Street.

The best IB-specific source I found, Peak Frameworks, ranks Wake Forest #38 on its investment banking target-school list and calls it a “lower semi-target.” It says Wake has “fair placement” into IB, with a disproportionate share going to Bank of America and J.P. Morgan, and that 94% of Wake’s tracked IB hires were into bulge brackets. [1] Mergers & Inquisitions separately describes Wake Forest as “more of a semi-target,” meaning IB is possible, but it is not one of the top universities for the field. [2]

I did not find Bucknell on Peak Frameworks’ top-60 IB target-school list, and M&I does not list Bucknell in its semi-target discussion. That does not mean Bucknell cannot place into IB, but it suggests it is not generally treated as a standard IB semi-target in the same way Wake is. [1][2]

Bucknell still has strong finance outcomes. Its Freeman Class of 2024 report says Freeman grads went 59% into financial services and 15% into consulting; finance majors averaged $88,903 starting salary. [3] Bucknell also reports employers including BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Morgan Stanley, Fidelity, Deloitte, PwC, and RSM. [4]

Wake’s business-school outcomes are stronger overall: Poets&Quants reports 98.7% of Wake Forest business job-seeking grads employed within three months, 98% internship participation, and $85,806 average starting salary; listed employers include JPMorgan, Barclays, Deloitte, Goldman Sachs, UBS, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, AlphaSights, and Jefferies. [5]

My read: for pure IB, Wake Forest is the clearer semi-target / lower-semi-target path and appears to place better into bulge-bracket banking. Bucknell is strong for finance broadly and has legitimate alumni/employer outcomes, but the publicly available IB-target data is weaker. For consulting, both are credible, but Wake’s broader business-school placement data and employer list still give it the edge.

[1] Peak Frameworks, Wake Forest University IB placement / IB target-school methodology.
[2] Mergers & Inquisitions, IB target-school guide and Wake Forest comment.
[3] Bucknell University, Class of 2024 Post-Graduate Survey.
[4] Bucknell University, Bucknell Outcomes.
[5] Poets&Quants, Wake Forest School of Business profile.[/quote]

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