Hantavirus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even this type of Hanta is not airborne. It’s (in rare cases) transmitted via bodily fluid. While it’s sad for all these people, I think that for everyone else it’s just their Covid PTSD talking.

I don’t think so, some of us are interested in viruses, others feel terrified because we have no one in a position of authority who can protect or guide us anymore.
For all parties, we still have CIDRAP and the WHO. They are reliable and valid sources for information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even this type of Hanta is not airborne. It’s (in rare cases) transmitted via bodily fluid. While it’s sad for all these people, I think that for everyone else it’s just their Covid PTSD talking.

This is getting bigger than a bread box. Now a flight attendant, who was in close proximity to one person who died from it is hospitalized with symptoms. Unless they were joining the mile high club… Unlikely!

[Anonymous]

Dutch news says the flight attendant was only in brief contact with the patient.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2026/05/klm-flight-attendant-hospitalised-with-suspected-hantavirus/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dutch news says the flight attendant was only in brief contact with the patient.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2026/05/klm-flight-attendant-hospitalised-with-suspected-hantavirus/

Says she has mild symptoms and is being tested.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/hantaviruses/symptoms-hantavirus-infection.html
Above says symptoms appear 1-6 weeks after exposure. Seems too soon.

Reminds of Gene Hackman’s wife’s death - but probably a different variety since it says it is not spread people to people.
https://apnews.com/article/gene-hackman-betsy-arakawa-hantavirus-death-rodent-af52b4943d854b52a5da36100113bc1b

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dutch news says the flight attendant was only in brief contact with the patient.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2026/05/klm-flight-attendant-hospitalised-with-suspected-hantavirus/

Says she has mild symptoms and is being tested.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/hantaviruses/symptoms-hantavirus-infection.html
Above says symptoms appear 1-6 weeks after exposure. Seems too soon.

Reminds of Gene Hackman’s wife’s death - but probably a different variety since it says it is not spread people to people.
https://apnews.com/article/gene-hackman-betsy-arakawa-hantavirus-death-rodent-af52b4943d854b52a5da36100113bc1b

Ok it is a different strain. South American,
https://www.dutchnews.nl/2026/05/first-hantavirus-patients-land-at-schiphol-more-to-follow/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even this type of Hanta is not airborne. It’s (in rare cases) transmitted via bodily fluid. While it’s sad for all these people, I think that for everyone else it’s just their Covid PTSD talking.

I don’t think so, some of us are interested in viruses, others feel terrified because we have no one in a position of authority who can protect or guide us anymore.
For all parties, we still have CIDRAP and the WHO. They are reliable and valid sources for information.

You felt protected by the Biden CDC and Fauci during COVID? It is well documented, and many of us in public health could tell at the time, that they were just making up a response without real scientific evidence. They also rushed forward mass immunizing the public, so that any reasonable experiment on longer term efficacy and safety was impossible (without large controls.) The mortality rate/risk of the infection was grossly overestimated for nearly everyone. I guess you were their target audience.

DCUM is the picture of that target audience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dutch news says the flight attendant was only in brief contact with the patient.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2026/05/klm-flight-attendant-hospitalised-with-suspected-hantavirus/

Says she has mild symptoms and is being tested.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/hantaviruses/symptoms-hantavirus-infection.html
Above says symptoms appear 1-6 weeks after exposure. Seems too soon.

Reminds of Gene Hackman’s wife’s death - but probably a different variety since it says it is not spread people to people.
https://apnews.com/article/gene-hackman-betsy-arakawa-hantavirus-death-rodent-af52b4943d854b52a5da36100113bc1b

Hantavirus typically has a 10- to 20-day incubation period.
Again, there are different types of hantavirus- old world, new world, which this is a subtype Andes. This type is unique in that it can spread human to human. It is believed to be spread through exposure to bodily fluids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even this type of Hanta is not airborne. It’s (in rare cases) transmitted via bodily fluid. While it’s sad for all these people, I think that for everyone else it’s just their Covid PTSD talking.

I don’t think so, some of us are interested in viruses, others feel terrified because we have no one in a position of authority who can protect or guide us anymore.
For all parties, we still have CIDRAP and the WHO. They are reliable and valid sources for information.

You felt protected by the Biden CDC and Fauci during COVID? It is well documented, and many of us in public health could tell at the time, that they were just making up a response without real scientific evidence. They also rushed forward mass immunizing the public, so that any reasonable experiment on longer term efficacy and safety was impossible (without large controls.) The mortality rate/risk of the infection was grossly overestimated for nearly everyone. I guess you were their target audience.

I’m not going to argue with you, it derails the thread. I like to stick to topic.
I will warn you, you will be reported for spreading your anti vax nonsense. Take it somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dutch news says the flight attendant was only in brief contact with the patient.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2026/05/klm-flight-attendant-hospitalised-with-suspected-hantavirus/

It may have only been brief, but if the passenger was vomiting the FA could have very well come into contact with bodily fluids.

[Anonymous]

This is pretty close to home:

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/virginia-traveler-from-hantavirus-stricken-cruise-ship-returns-home-officials-say

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't hear about the France case being infected on a plane. Link?

Also, I was under the impression that this strain of hantavirus is endemic in Argentina- it's not a novel thing- and it requires very close contact to spread, like sharing a bed, or sharing food. So I suppose being right next to someone on the airplane and sharing a drink with them or something could spread it, but I did not think it was very easily transmissible, not airborne or small droplet spread like flu or covid etc.

The study that supported human to human transmission reported very close contract - “deep kissing” and sexual contact. And a later systematic review, which is a higher level study, said the first study was flawed in several ways and did not look at other environmental exposure besides close contact. So I think there are a lot of questions marks here and the WHO is dealing with a unicorn case where they need to be cautious, but hantavirus is well known to result in small clusters of infections with no history of large outbreaks.

Hantavirus is not prone to mutation despite being an RNA virus, so that is reassuring as well. I wouldn’t be worried about hantavirus this summer, but a month ago, I would have said the chances of a cluster on a cruise ship was close to zero, so what do I know? Retired ID doc here.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't worry about it specifically with regard to travel. If this becomes a pandemic, it will be in your schools, in your churches, in your metro and offices. I don't think France is more exposed than we are here.

[Anonymous]

As someone posted upthread, someone on the boat is back in Virginia (but VDOH won’t say where in Virginia). Here we go again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even this type of Hanta is not airborne. It’s (in rare cases) transmitted via bodily fluid. While it’s sad for all these people, I think that for everyone else it’s just their Covid PTSD talking.

I don’t think so, some of us are interested in viruses, others feel terrified because we have no one in a position of authority who can protect or guide us anymore.
For all parties, we still have CIDRAP and the WHO. They are reliable and valid sources for information.

You felt protected by the Biden CDC and Fauci during COVID? It is well documented, and many of us in public health could tell at the time, that they were just making up a response without real scientific evidence. They also rushed forward mass immunizing the public, so that any reasonable experiment on longer term efficacy and safety was impossible (without large controls.) The mortality rate/risk of the infection was grossly overestimated for nearly everyone. I guess you were their target audience.

I’m not going to argue with you, it derails the thread. I like to stick to topic.
I will warn you, you will be reported for spreading your anti vax nonsense. Take it somewhere else.

DP. But is this post anti-vaccine? I don't read it that way.

Some of you are really very fragile for any point of view other than your own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't hear about the France case being infected on a plane. Link?

Also, I was under the impression that this strain of hantavirus is endemic in Argentina- it's not a novel thing- and it requires very close contact to spread, like sharing a bed, or sharing food. So I suppose being right next to someone on the airplane and sharing a drink with them or something could spread it, but I did not think it was very easily transmissible, not airborne or small droplet spread like flu or covid etc.

The study that supported human to human transmission reported very close contract - “deep kissing” and sexual contact. And a later systematic review, which is a higher level study, said the first study was flawed in several ways and did not look at other environmental exposure besides close contact. So I think there are a lot of questions marks here and the WHO is dealing with a unicorn case where they need to be cautious, but hantavirus is well known to result in small clusters of infections with no history of large outbreaks.

Hantavirus is not prone to mutation despite being an RNA virus, so that is reassuring as well. I wouldn’t be worried about hantavirus this summer, but a month ago, I would have said the chances of a cluster on a cruise ship was close to zero, so what do I know? Retired ID doc here.

Thank you for your perspective, how do we explain then that the flight attendant is now assumed positive?

“ She had briefly come into contact with an elderly Dutch passenger who was deemed too sick to fly — and who then collapsed at the airport and later died.”