Touse out of reach for non-Southern students in SEC?

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Anonymous wrote:If she was that great, she would be able to make friends on her own without paying for them.

This is such a tired trope. Fraternity/sorority dues don't "pay for friends." If that were the case, you wouldn't have to rush and hope for a bid, which many don't get -- including you, probably, which is why you're still making caustic comments about Greek life decades later.

Greek organizations have expenses: a house, social events, travel, and so on. Splitting these costs among so many people necessitates some kind of formal structure to ensure everyone pays their fair share. A group of 3-4 friends who share an apartment and go out on weekends and take spring break trips together can split the costs informally on their own, but that isn't possible with 80 or 100 people.

Hilarious take. The vast majority of people have zero interest in fraternities and sororities. They were cringey in 1998 when I was in college, and they are cringey now. I am trying to raise children with the social skills to make friends and connections without paying for an embarrassing crutch. You do you, though.

Thanks for your input, Karen.

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Anonymous wrote:DD has both UGA and UF on her final list. She is attractive, extroverted, and smart: VP of her senior class, homecoming court, varsity athlete, tons of friends, active social life. There is zero doubt she'd get a touse bid at UVA or UMD-CP, especially since she has older high school friends in touses on those campuses. But she is lured by the weather, energy, and tailgate scene of the SEC, and I'm wondering how rush will pan out for her there given she's not a stereotypical Southern belle and will know next to zero people to start. I can't see her ending up in a bouse, but I keep hearing that a touse bid requires existing connections, recommendations, even a family legacy in some cases. Is a mouse the best she can hope for as an out-of-state student not from the South? I'm not saying that's the worst thing that could happen, and obviously academics come first, but she wants to be in a social environment that matches what she brings to the table, and I don't blame her. Parents with out-of-state DCs at SEC schools (particularly UGA or UF), what has been your experience?

I would not count on a "touse" (new word for me) at UVA. The top 3 houses each had many PNMs (50+ in the one I'm most familiar with) with inside connections who dirty rushed who went to the end and then did not get a bid. I personally know a dozen "attractive, extroverted, smart girls with tons of friends" who ended rush without any bid.

Did they audition them for their dancing ability? Because that seems to be very important for publicity purposes.

UVA sororities are not into the dancing videos. Different vibe over there.

Have you ever seen the MIT sorority dancing video? It exists, not that different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The top houses are hard to get into for an OOS girl in the SEC. But also hard at places like IU

DP. What about Michigan and Wisconsin? Both have huge OOS populations in general. Does that impact the Greek dynamics?

No. Southern schools old row start recruiting in high school /country clubs. For many, it’s a done deal when they get there. Completely different.

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Anonymous wrote:What is a "touse"?

Touse: top house
Mouse: mid house
Bouse: bottom house

OMG that's so cringey, I'm feeling second hand embarrassment for OP

No kidding. I was wondering if OP was having a seizure mid-typing reading all that nonsense. Now I know she's just...not even sure I have words.

[Anonymous]

I toss any resume that lists a sorority or fraternity.

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Did our “sorry you didn’t get a bid” poster finally move on from this site?

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Yall are not paying attention to high school kids these days.

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Anonymous wrote:Family friends with someone whose son went to Auburn from MA. Despite being the male version of everything you've said your daughter is, he was told point blank "we like you but you're not southern, so you're not getting in to the frat, sorry." He ended up joining the frat filled with bros from the northeast. Same with another family friend at U of South Carolina.

I went to Auburn a million years ago, and that rings true to me. My HS friend went to Vandy, and her mom went somewhere else, I forgot where. Anyway, her mom's sorority was not a top sorority at Vandy, but it was the only sorority that accepted my friend because of the legacy issue. I remember her calling me in tears. I cannot believe that this is still a thing in the 21st century, but here we are. SO cringe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did our “sorry you didn’t get a bid” poster finally move on from this site?

Shhhh… don’t summon them!

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“the house is often rented out by a for profit company.”

100% incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did our “sorry you didn’t get a bid” poster finally move on from this site?

I think he's still here. Doesn't talk about "foyine girls" anymore but occasionally "sorority dimes".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is a "touse"?

Touse: top house
Mouse: mid house
Bouse: bottom house

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Family friends with someone whose son went to Auburn from MA. Despite being the male version of everything you've said your daughter is, he was told point blank "we like you but you're not southern, so you're not getting in to the frat, sorry." He ended up joining the frat filled with bros from the northeast. Same with another family friend at U of South Carolina.

Gross.

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Anonymous wrote:DD has both UGA and UF on her final list. She is attractive, extroverted, and smart: VP of her senior class, homecoming court, varsity athlete, tons of friends, active social life. There is zero doubt she'd get a touse bid at UVA or UMD-CP, especially since she has older high school friends in touses on those campuses. But she is lured by the weather, energy, and tailgate scene of the SEC, and I'm wondering how rush will pan out for her there given she's not a stereotypical Southern belle and will know next to zero people to start. I can't see her ending up in a bouse, but I keep hearing that a touse bid requires existing connections, recommendations, even a family legacy in some cases. Is a mouse the best she can hope for as an out-of-state student not from the South? I'm not saying that's the worst thing that could happen, and obviously academics come first, but she wants to be in a social environment that matches what she brings to the table, and I don't blame her. Parents with out-of-state DCs at SEC schools (particularly UGA or UF), what has been your experience?

I would not count on a "touse" (new word for me) at UVA. The top 3 houses each had many PNMs (50+ in the one I'm most familiar with) with inside connections who dirty rushed who went to the end and then did not get a bid. I personally know a dozen "attractive, extroverted, smart girls with tons of friends" who ended rush without any bid.

wtf is a PMN?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD has both UGA and UF on her final list. She is attractive, extroverted, and smart: VP of her senior class, homecoming court, varsity athlete, tons of friends, active social life. There is zero doubt she'd get a touse bid at UVA or UMD-CP, especially since she has older high school friends in touses on those campuses. But she is lured by the weather, energy, and tailgate scene of the SEC, and I'm wondering how rush will pan out for her there given she's not a stereotypical Southern belle and will know next to zero people to start. I can't see her ending up in a bouse, but I keep hearing that a touse bid requires existing connections, recommendations, even a family legacy in some cases. Is a mouse the best she can hope for as an out-of-state student not from the South? I'm not saying that's the worst thing that could happen, and obviously academics come first, but she wants to be in a social environment that matches what she brings to the table, and I don't blame her. Parents with out-of-state DCs at SEC schools (particularly UGA or UF), what has been your experience?

I would not count on a "touse" (new word for me) at UVA. The top 3 houses each had many PNMs (50+ in the one I'm most familiar with) with inside connections who dirty rushed who went to the end and then did not get a bid. I personally know a dozen "attractive, extroverted, smart girls with tons of friends" who ended rush without any bid.

Did they audition them for their dancing ability? Because that seems to be very important for publicity purposes.

UVA sororities are not into the dancing videos. Different vibe over there.

Have you ever seen the MIT sorority dancing video? It exists, not that different.

https://www.tiktok.com/@mitalphachi/video/7543701112965090591

Similar indeed.