Is pre-med at UChicago a bad idea?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This site placed Chicago a solid 34th nationally by medical school placement:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/from-pre-med-to-md-understanding-the-pathways-to-medical-school/

If you are not committed to the idea of Chicago, then you may benefit from exploring even higher ranked colleges.

This is a super interesting website to play around with. I’ve see it before and forgotten about it, thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This site placed Chicago a solid 34th nationally by medical school placement:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/from-pre-med-to-md-understanding-the-pathways-to-medical-school/

If you are not committed to the idea of Chicago, then you may benefit from exploring even higher ranked colleges.

This is a super interesting website to play around with. I’ve see it before and forgotten about it, thanks for sharing.

That site is flawed and completely inaccurate. Both my kids are at ivy/+ schools listed on the first sheet of that article as having 3% or so go to medical school. That is completely FALSE. They used linked in and other things to "track" it. Most docs do not have or post on linked in.
There is internal data as well as external googlable AMCAS data on my kids' and most schools. Out of 1500-1800 total undergrads per graduating class at my kids ivies plus my own alma mater(a different elite school on that first page), 260-380 PER YEAR get accepted to an MD program in the US (out of 290 to 411 applying each year). About 40% apply without a gap. The gap or not does not matter because the average from each graduating class works out to the same numbers. These schools do not list apps with more than 2 gaps.
In other words it is 17-25% of the graduating class who go to med school(MD) in the US, immediately or within 2 yrs. Not 3%.
Please folks do not use that inaccurate data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This site placed Chicago a solid 34th nationally by medical school placement:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/from-pre-med-to-md-understanding-the-pathways-to-medical-school/

If you are not committed to the idea of Chicago, then you may benefit from exploring even higher ranked colleges.

This is a super interesting website to play around with. I’ve see it before and forgotten about it, thanks for sharing.

That site is flawed and completely inaccurate. Both my kids are at ivy/+ schools listed on the first sheet of that article as having 3% or so go to medical school. That is completely FALSE. They used linked in and other things to "track" it. Most docs do not have or post on linked in.
There is internal data as well as external googlable AMCAS data on my kids' and most schools. Out of 1500-1800 total undergrads per graduating class at my kids ivies plus my own alma mater(a different elite school on that first page), 260-380 PER YEAR get accepted to an MD program in the US (out of 290 to 411 applying each year). About 40% apply without a gap. The gap or not does not matter because the average from each graduating class works out to the same numbers. These schools do not list apps with more than 2 gaps.
In other words it is 17-25% of the graduating class who go to med school(MD) in the US, immediately or within 2 yrs. Not 3%.
Please folks do not use that inaccurate data.

I actually spent more time on the bottom section of where they end up for med school and the med school one after. At my student’s Ivy it’s hard to get clear info, but just from what I do know it seemed to be fairly accurate? Was yours?

[Anonymous]

I was premed at uchicago many years ago and got into many med schools! obviously things have changed but they do have great advising

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Primary concerns are 1) grade deflation = lower GPA for med school apps and 2) grind culture and so much busy work = no time left for meaningful pre-med internships. We watched a "Day in the life of a UChicago student" video on Youtube. The girl who made it described her workload in details and said she has 7 hours of homework a day on average in additional to going to classes, office hours, clubs and ECs on campus. She's not evening STEM/Engineering or Comp Sci!. How is that sustainable?

DD (junior) is curious about UChicago because she likes their essay prompt Qs which makes her think it's a campus full of "her kind of people". She's not deterred by the reputation of challenging academics (she has a history of excelling when things get more challenging). However, she is not what you would call a recluse nerd, she has lots of friends, is very social and active now in high school and manages to work year-round at a part-time job with coworkers she is friendly with. She says her ideal college will have top teaching, challenging academics, good for pre-med but also has lots of campus traditions, events and activities (non-Greek, Harry Potter Quidditch type). The latter part doesn't sound like UChicago to me, am I right?

It is a great idea. It is a top school with an affiliated medical school, best of both worlds. Absolutely go if your student gets in unhooked with submitted scores 1480+ (no extra time, not super-scored). They will have a great chance to be top half from a top undergrad(boost) and makes MD acceptance to at least one medical school in the US around 95% likely.

Is this PP implying the kids who find Chicago to be where fun goes to die or would take 7 hours to finish daily homework are ones who scored sub-1480 not super-scored? Or is PP being sarcastic? Sorry can't tell by text.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In general premed is a "bad" idea if one worries about gpa and workloads. When we visited JHU last year, the tour guide really left an impression on us. She seemed like one of those kids who has almost no time to sleep, if she even sleeps at all. She was double majoring in biology and public health, volunteering, getting clinical hours, and doing lab research, all at once. She had even already been ready to publish as a sophomore. Very high energy vibe.

This is why half the students end up on adderal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Primary concerns are 1) grade deflation = lower GPA for med school apps and 2) grind culture and so much busy work = no time left for meaningful pre-med internships. We watched a "Day in the life of a UChicago student" video on Youtube. The girl who made it described her workload in details and said she has 7 hours of homework a day on average in additional to going to classes, office hours, clubs and ECs on campus. She's not evening STEM/Engineering or Comp Sci!. How is that sustainable?

DD (junior) is curious about UChicago because she likes their essay prompt Qs which makes her think it's a campus full of "her kind of people". She's not deterred by the reputation of challenging academics (she has a history of excelling when things get more challenging). However, she is not what you would call a recluse nerd, she has lots of friends, is very social and active now in high school and manages to work year-round at a part-time job with coworkers she is friendly with. She says her ideal college will have top teaching, challenging academics, good for pre-med but also has lots of campus traditions, events and activities (non-Greek, Harry Potter Quidditch type). The latter part doesn't sound like UChicago to me, am I right?

It is a great idea. It is a top school with an affiliated medical school, best of both worlds. Absolutely go if your student gets in unhooked with submitted scores 1480+ (no extra time, not super-scored). They will have a great chance to be top half from a top undergrad(boost) and makes MD acceptance to at least one medical school in the US around 95% likely.

Is this PP implying the kids who find Chicago to be where fun goes to die or would take 7 hours to finish daily homework are ones who scored sub-1480 not super-scored? Or is PP being sarcastic? Sorry can't tell by text.

I thought that was a typo? 1580+ not 1480+

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Primary concerns are 1) grade deflation = lower GPA for med school apps and 2) grind culture and so much busy work = no time left for meaningful pre-med internships. We watched a "Day in the life of a UChicago student" video on Youtube. The girl who made it described her workload in details and said she has 7 hours of homework a day on average in additional to going to classes, office hours, clubs and ECs on campus. She's not evening STEM/Engineering or Comp Sci!. How is that sustainable?

DD (junior) is curious about UChicago because she likes their essay prompt Qs which makes her think it's a campus full of "her kind of people". She's not deterred by the reputation of challenging academics (she has a history of excelling when things get more challenging). However, she is not what you would call a recluse nerd, she has lots of friends, is very social and active now in high school and manages to work year-round at a part-time job with coworkers she is friendly with. She says her ideal college will have top teaching, challenging academics, good for pre-med but also has lots of campus traditions, events and activities (non-Greek, Harry Potter Quidditch type). The latter part doesn't sound like UChicago to me, am I right?

It is a great idea. It is a top school with an affiliated medical school, best of both worlds. Absolutely go if your student gets in unhooked with submitted scores 1480+ (no extra time, not super-scored). They will have a great chance to be top half from a top undergrad(boost) and makes MD acceptance to at least one medical school in the US around 95% likely.

Is this PP implying the kids who find Chicago to be where fun goes to die or would take 7 hours to finish daily homework are ones who scored sub-1480 not super-scored? Or is PP being sarcastic? Sorry can't tell by text.

I dunno. I have stopped responding to Chicago posts because I'm so tired of that one annoying poster who endlessly bashes the school, repeating the same crap over and over.