Here comes the “dip”

Anonymous
When software is doing the selling/buying, every retail investor looking for a "dip", that dip becomes more and more elusive. Just saying. Look at where the Dow started today and where it is as of 1 min ago. Everyone chasing the "dip"
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We are down 2%.

The GFC saw drops of 7%. Wake me up when we drop 5%


20-30% really - this is just noise right now


We can’t even drop 30% in a day right?

U.S. market-wide circuit breakers can trigger at different levels, specifically at declines of 7% (Level 1), 13% (Level 2), and 20% (Level 3) in the S&P 500 Index:
Trading Halt Durations:

Level 1 and Level 2: If triggered before 3:25 p.m. ET, trading is halted for 15 minutes. If triggered at or after this time, trading will continue without a halt.
Level 3: This level halts trading for the remainder of the trading day, regardless of the time it is triggered.


Of course, but yes this did happen frequently during COVID & 2008. If people are panicking after just a couple down days, they are in the wrong asset classes.


No they did not. Circuit breakers tripped once in 1997 from AFC. And then 4 times in March 2020. And none were 20% ever.


I never said 20% in one day, but we had far greater than 20-30% draw downs. Not sure why you are focused on one day. It's not like 1 or 2 -2% days signify anything other than noise.


Over the while GFC I think market dropped by half? That won’t happen again, way to much money waiting to pounce and they assume they have Fed support
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Anonymous wrote:When oil price goes up it's very hard to bring it down. Even when things go back to normal don't expect the lower prices we have been seeing. The players in this business are extremely greedy. This will worsen inflation if you add the effects of tariffs which are still to come.

I hate being gloomy. I am a very optimistic person and I want to stay this way. But I don't want to be delusional either.

People also need to understand that the policy choice of this administration was to supercharge the economy in the short term while ignoring debt. Unfortunately the economy failed to take off like a rocket engine. Yes it probably took of like a Toyota Supra perhaps. In my opinion this is the most catastrophic scenario. We did everything to supercharge and juice up the economy. We took off all guardrails, regulations you name it. And what do we have to show for? If this is the best the economy can give us under this juice up stimulus we are royalty f**d


Oil prices are INCREDIBLY volatile! They go up/down all the time so you lost me at the first sentence.


PP here. You are correct. I should have framed it better. Basically what I wanted to say was that OPEC will be incentivized to keep prices high by not increasing output as much as Asia and Europe may need once the conflict is over. And China has about 12 months of reserves but India has only 2 months.


The US is a net exporter of oil and natural gas. There are also plenty of fields that could be brought online semi quickly if prices were to rises. Currently they just aren't needed and companies don't want to pay to drill them until prices are higher.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DOW future down almost 600 pts already. Get your funds ready!


LOL…did you panic like this when there were big down days under Biden and Obama?
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Anonymous wrote:DOW future down almost 600 pts already. Get your funds ready!


LOL…did you panic like this when there were big down days under Biden and Obama?


During GFC and the Fed interest rate hikes amid high inflation, yes. Those were the only times we had those swings.

Trump had swings for COVID, which are not his fault, and Tariffs and Wars which are directly his responsibility.

Obama and Biden were never the direct triggers.
Anonymous
So today is the dip?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:When oil price goes up it's very hard to bring it down. Even when things go back to normal don't expect the lower prices we have been seeing. The players in this business are extremely greedy. This will worsen inflation if you add the effects of tariffs which are still to come.

I hate being gloomy. I am a very optimistic person and I want to stay this way. But I don't want to be delusional either.

People also need to understand that the policy choice of this administration was to supercharge the economy in the short term while ignoring debt. Unfortunately the economy failed to take off like a rocket engine. Yes it probably took of like a Toyota Supra perhaps. In my opinion this is the most catastrophic scenario. We did everything to supercharge and juice up the economy. We took off all guardrails, regulations you name it. And what do we have to show for? If this is the best the economy can give us under this juice up stimulus we are royalty f**d


Oil prices are INCREDIBLY volatile! They go up/down all the time so you lost me at the first sentence.


PP here. You are correct. I should have framed it better. Basically what I wanted to say was that OPEC will be incentivized to keep prices high by not increasing output as much as Asia and Europe may need once the conflict is over. And China has about 12 months of reserves but India has only 2 months.


The US is a net exporter of oil and natural gas. There are also plenty of fields that could be brought online semi quickly if prices were to rises. Currently they just aren't needed and companies don't want to pay to drill them until prices are higher.


R&d has been under invested for years because the price of crude didn't make it worth it. It might be a different calculus if this turns into a prolonged event (rather than a spike), but then then it will take a lot of time to get that production going.
Anonymous
DOW is down 2%, meanwhile NASDAQ down barely 0.5%.

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Anonymous wrote:So today is the dip?


Tech is all that matters. The S&P was flat declining the last two yours other than Mag 7. You need to understand that is the US economy, the old industrials and consumer goods are money losing commodities.
Anonymous
Ongoing dip, haven't hit bottom yet. Also, jobs report today was brutal.
Anonymous
I don't always buy the dip, but when I do it keeps dipping ...
Anonymous
I’m so f..g over Trump! His insiders are the only ones to benefit . Imagine the day when he gloriously announces the victory over Iran.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So today is the dip?


Dip is not an one-day event in most cases
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Anonymous wrote:So today is the dip?


Dip is not an one-day event in most cases


It is now that algorithms are trying to use long dated OTM call options and HFT to try and front run every “Best Day Theory” drop and bounce.
Anonymous
This coming week might be a good time to jump in. My cash is ready!
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