Will UVA's new president survive? should he?

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He will survive and thrive.
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Anonymous wrote:He's fine. Lay off. No one at UVA cares anymore. It's over. The Cavalier Daily is a student newspaper so it's going to look for anything it can report. It's a non-issue at this point.


Did you read the article? 191 faculty cared enough to sign a letter. That does not sound like no ones cares. It's the opposite!


You tried to make this same point on the political thread about Beardsley supposedly having insufficient degrees (he has four). Tgat thread, too, should have been posted in the politics forum bit here. The letter is old news. Name one school where the faculty doesn’t behave like that. Harvard faculty went batshit for Claudine Gay, too, but were wrong.

Besides, what the faculty thinks is irrelevant. They don’t make the decision: The Board of Visitors does.

And the Cavalier is a student newspaper and should be taken as such.


You don’t think faculty support is important at a University ??

They produce the institution’s work product, you Bozo.


Ah, I see the name-calling has started so you know you have lost the argument. No, only 192 out of more than 1,269 faculty signed that document. There is no wide sweeping support for Ryan. It’s over.

And for the record, Beardsley is apolitical, which is well known and you could have learned by googling. If you continue this slander I will report you, this thread, and the other one started by political troublemakers. This thread belongs in politics, not here.

(And, by the way, those faculty members don’t l get to produce that “work-product” without the approval of the President and the Board. You have that reversed. And no academic uses the word “work product”. )


so you don't think a state univ president should be removed for political reasons?


Funny how the PP never responded to this question.

It's only OK when it benefits MAGAs.



exactly! a little late to say "oh no politics!" where was that outrage when ryan was removed for, wait for it, politics?


Their hypocrisy is laughable.
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Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.
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Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.



Either you're completely delusional or not responding in good faith.

The firing and subsequent hiring were clearly abnormal and politically motivated.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2025/11/14/jim-ryan-breaks-silence-uva-resignation
"Ryan wrote that UVA soon received an inquiry about why it was slow to dismantle DEI.

“The letter asked us to explain why we hadn’t complied with the Board’s resolution, though it exaggerated the scope and nature of that resolution, suggesting—as had Governor Youngkin on television—that we were supposed to eliminate the entirety of DEI,” Ryan wrote. “It was unclear, and still is, why the United States Department of Justice would have the interest or authority to enforce a resolution of the Board of a state university as opposed to enforcing federal law.”"

"“The rector, the vice rector, and others on the board conspired to oust Jim Ryan, and they made the decision to leverage pressure from the Department of Justice in order to enact that ouster,” Matthew Hedstrom, a religious studies professor, said in Friday’s Faculty Senate meeting."

https://facultysenate.virginia.edu/resolution-on-the-presidential-search-timeline

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/governance/executive-leadership/2026/01/07/uva-presidential-hire-raises-process-concerns
“The presidential search, problematic from the start and resulting in this appointment, represents the Board’s continued failure to engage in authentic shared governance with the faculty,” the UVA chapter of the American Association of University Professors wrote in a Tuesday statement. “To accept the result of this tainted process and its appointee as legitimate would be to turn a blind eye to the misfeasance that has reigned at the university since March.”

Ann Brown, co-chair of Wahoos 4 UVA, a nonpartisan group of alumni, students, parents and other constituents, told Inside Higher Ed that she had concerns about both the process and the legality of the search.

“It was an improper search because it was initiated by a board that is not in full compliance with Virginia law,” said Brown, a UVA law graduate, citing the five vacancies."

"Youngkin stocked the state’s Boards of Visitors with multiple conservative donors and former politicians, stamping politics directly onto university oversight. "




Beardsley didn't have to accept the job and/or he could have made a statement about the flawed process.

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Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.


He accepted the appointment that resulted from a flawed politically driven process.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.


Perhaps if he had better educational credentials, he would be able to recognize a flawed process.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.


Perhaps if he had better educational credentials, he would be able to recognize a flawed process.


You people are ridiculous. He was wildly successful both professionally and as the dean of Darden. There was no outrage then or calls that he wasn't qualified. He has an engineering degree and an MBA from MIT. You want some academic with with no practical operational or fundraising skills? That is what the job calls for - to be a leader, not an academic.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.


Perhaps if he had better educational credentials, he would be able to recognize a flawed process.


You people are ridiculous. He was wildly successful both professionally and as the dean of Darden. There was no outrage then or calls that he wasn't qualified. He has an engineering degree and an MBA from MIT. You want some academic with with no practical operational or fundraising skills? That is what the job calls for - to be a leader, not an academic.


You act like these are either-or things, like you can be a clueless academic or a leader. Actually you can be both, and you see both in the presidency of every top 25 school/SLAC (and almost all of the other t50-75 schools)…just not UVa. Which is embarrassing for UVa, to have a president with a diploma mill, pay to play degree. Yes, it is one,even if it’s from Penn.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.


Perhaps if he had better educational credentials, he would be able to recognize a flawed process.


You people are ridiculous. He was wildly successful both professionally and as the dean of Darden. There was no outrage then or calls that he wasn't qualified. He has an engineering degree and an MBA from MIT. You want some academic with with no practical operational or fundraising skills? That is what the job calls for - to be a leader, not an academic.


Who knows - he might be the best candidate for the job.

The issue is the rushed, unethical appointment driven by a political agenda.

It'll be difficult for him to be an effective leader when he doesn't have buy-in from the community.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.


Perhaps if he had better educational credentials, he would be able to recognize a flawed process.


You people are ridiculous. He was wildly successful both professionally and as the dean of Darden. There was no outrage then or calls that he wasn't qualified. He has an engineering degree and an MBA from MIT. You want some academic with with no practical operational or fundraising skills? That is what the job calls for - to be a leader, not an academic.


Who knows - he might be the best candidate for the job.

The issue is the rushed, unethical appointment driven by a political agenda.

It'll be difficult for him to be an effective leader when he doesn't have buy-in from the community.



This is the hard truth that the Jefferson Council is either unable or willing to accept. They won the battle pushing Ryan but they’ll lose the war. It’s a shame because maybe Beardsley really was the best candidate, but it’s going to be so hard to overcome the stain of the search.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.



Either you're completely delusional or not responding in good faith.

The firing and subsequent hiring were clearly abnormal and politically motivated.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2025/11/14/jim-ryan-breaks-silence-uva-resignation
"Ryan wrote that UVA soon received an inquiry about why it was slow to dismantle DEI.

“The letter asked us to explain why we hadn’t complied with the Board’s resolution, though it exaggerated the scope and nature of that resolution, suggesting—as had Governor Youngkin on television—that we were supposed to eliminate the entirety of DEI,” Ryan wrote. “It was unclear, and still is, why the United States Department of Justice would have the interest or authority to enforce a resolution of the Board of a state university as opposed to enforcing federal law.”"

"“The rector, the vice rector, and others on the board conspired to oust Jim Ryan, and they made the decision to leverage pressure from the Department of Justice in order to enact that ouster,” Matthew Hedstrom, a religious studies professor, said in Friday’s Faculty Senate meeting."

https://facultysenate.virginia.edu/resolution-on-the-presidential-search-timeline

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/governance/executive-leadership/2026/01/07/uva-presidential-hire-raises-process-concerns
“The presidential search, problematic from the start and resulting in this appointment, represents the Board’s continued failure to engage in authentic shared governance with the faculty,” the UVA chapter of the American Association of University Professors wrote in a Tuesday statement. “To accept the result of this tainted process and its appointee as legitimate would be to turn a blind eye to the misfeasance that has reigned at the university since March.”

Ann Brown, co-chair of Wahoos 4 UVA, a nonpartisan group of alumni, students, parents and other constituents, told Inside Higher Ed that she had concerns about both the process and the legality of the search.

“It was an improper search because it was initiated by a board that is not in full compliance with Virginia law,” said Brown, a UVA law graduate, citing the five vacancies."

"Youngkin stocked the state’s Boards of Visitors with multiple conservative donors and former politicians, stamping politics directly onto university oversight. "




Beardsley didn't have to accept the job and/or he could have made a statement about the flawed process.



+100
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.



Either you're completely delusional or not responding in good faith.

The firing and subsequent hiring were clearly abnormal and politically motivated.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2025/11/14/jim-ryan-breaks-silence-uva-resignation
"Ryan wrote that UVA soon received an inquiry about why it was slow to dismantle DEI.

“The letter asked us to explain why we hadn’t complied with the Board’s resolution, though it exaggerated the scope and nature of that resolution, suggesting—as had Governor Youngkin on television—that we were supposed to eliminate the entirety of DEI,” Ryan wrote. “It was unclear, and still is, why the United States Department of Justice would have the interest or authority to enforce a resolution of the Board of a state university as opposed to enforcing federal law.”"

"“The rector, the vice rector, and others on the board conspired to oust Jim Ryan, and they made the decision to leverage pressure from the Department of Justice in order to enact that ouster,” Matthew Hedstrom, a religious studies professor, said in Friday’s Faculty Senate meeting."

https://facultysenate.virginia.edu/resolution-on-the-presidential-search-timeline

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/governance/executive-leadership/2026/01/07/uva-presidential-hire-raises-process-concerns
“The presidential search, problematic from the start and resulting in this appointment, represents the Board’s continued failure to engage in authentic shared governance with the faculty,” the UVA chapter of the American Association of University Professors wrote in a Tuesday statement. “To accept the result of this tainted process and its appointee as legitimate would be to turn a blind eye to the misfeasance that has reigned at the university since March.”

Ann Brown, co-chair of Wahoos 4 UVA, a nonpartisan group of alumni, students, parents and other constituents, told Inside Higher Ed that she had concerns about both the process and the legality of the search.

“It was an improper search because it was initiated by a board that is not in full compliance with Virginia law,” said Brown, a UVA law graduate, citing the five vacancies."

"Youngkin stocked the state’s Boards of Visitors with multiple conservative donors and former politicians, stamping politics directly onto university oversight. "




Beardsley didn't have to accept the job and/or he could have made a statement about the flawed process.



+100


Thank god Spangerberger appointed a bunch of apolitical moderates to right the ship.....
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.


Perhaps if he had better educational credentials, he would be able to recognize a flawed process.


You people are ridiculous. He was wildly successful both professionally and as the dean of Darden. There was no outrage then or calls that he wasn't qualified. He has an engineering degree and an MBA from MIT. You want some academic with with no practical operational or fundraising skills? That is what the job calls for - to be a leader, not an academic.


You act like these are either-or things, like you can be a clueless academic or a leader. Actually you can be both, and you see both in the presidency of every top 25 school/SLAC (and almost all of the other t50-75 schools)…just not UVa. Which is embarrassing for UVa, to have a president with a diploma mill, pay to play degree. Yes, it is one,even if it’s from Penn.


Beardsley has an MBA from MIT. Ryan had a JD from UVA.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.


Perhaps if he had better educational credentials, he would be able to recognize a flawed process.


You people are ridiculous. He was wildly successful both professionally and as the dean of Darden. There was no outrage then or calls that he wasn't qualified. He has an engineering degree and an MBA from MIT. You want some academic with with no practical operational or fundraising skills? That is what the job calls for - to be a leader, not an academic.


Who knows - he might be the best candidate for the job.

The issue is the rushed, unethical appointment driven by a political agenda.

It'll be difficult for him to be an effective leader when he doesn't have buy-in from the community.



exactly! in normal times, there would be a full process to determine if he's fully qualified and the best candidate. he should have gone through that. he did not.

why are you afraid of this if you're so sure he will come out on top? don't you want uva to have the leader it deserves?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had any sense of decency he’d offer to let them do a proper search.

Which would make him a more viable candidate.



This is insane. The council determined the hiring approach, not Beardsley. He doesn't get to decide that they have to do another layer of vetting.


So you acknowledge the hiring approach was politically motivated and abnormal?


No, of course not. It's just nuts that you're trying to hold him accountable for a process that he didn't determine.


Perhaps if he had better educational credentials, he would be able to recognize a flawed process.


You people are ridiculous. He was wildly successful both professionally and as the dean of Darden. There was no outrage then or calls that he wasn't qualified. He has an engineering degree and an MBA from MIT. You want some academic with with no practical operational or fundraising skills? That is what the job calls for - to be a leader, not an academic.


You act like these are either-or things, like you can be a clueless academic or a leader. Actually you can be both, and you see both in the presidency of every top 25 school/SLAC (and almost all of the other t50-75 schools)…just not UVa. Which is embarrassing for UVa, to have a president with a diploma mill, pay to play degree. Yes, it is one,even if it’s from Penn.


Beardsley has an MBA from MIT. Ryan had a JD from UVA.


Ryan went through the usual vetting process. Beardsley did not. See the difference?
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