How shitty would I be to do this

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, if you do accept the new job, could you maybe buy $100 gift cards for all your former co-workers, or maybe pay for a really nice catered dinner in a fun restaurant, put together swag bags with earbuds, gift cards, etc.?

This is terrible and ridiculous advice. Good grief.

OK, if this is too much and I don't think it is but another possibility would be for OP to book a group-exercise like a cooking class for her and all her coworkers (inclusivity!). Something like that would really emphasize the teamwork and the value of being part of a team and hopefully produce some yummy food. If a cooking class doesn't appeal, perhaps a guided hike of a local area that ends with a fun group lunch that OP can pick up the tab on.

Are you on crack?

Fine, OP can just leave the job. Was only trying to come up with some nice alternatives to just departing without any kind of gesture of goodwill.

[Anonymous]

^ ^
Disappointing so many people take this path though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you do accept the new job, could you maybe buy $100 gift cards for all your former co-workers, or maybe pay for a really nice catered dinner in a fun restaurant, put together swag bags with earbuds, gift cards, etc.?

This is terrible and ridiculous advice. Good grief.

OK, if this is too much and I don't think it is but another possibility would be for OP to book a group-exercise like a cooking class for her and all her coworkers (inclusivity!). Something like that would really emphasize the teamwork and the value of being part of a team and hopefully produce some yummy food. If a cooking class doesn't appeal, perhaps a guided hike of a local area that ends with a fun group lunch that OP can pick up the tab on.

Enough already, troll.

[Anonymous]

Thanks, guys. The hiring manager reached out to me this morning to schedule a zoom interview for Thursday so it will be interesting, for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, guys. The hiring manager reached out to me this morning to schedule a zoom interview for Thursday so it will be interesting, for sure.

OP, is it the same one as before, or a different one? Which was friendlier?

[Anonymous]

Not shitty at all. Employers and businesses do not care about any of us. If you died today, there'd be a posting for your job tomorrow. Do what is right for you and don't look back.

[Anonymous]

I was wrestling with the same basic issue at my job, and then as if clouds parted and an idea shown down from above, I realized...if I leave, they'll just hire someone else to take my place and within a month they'll forget I ever worked there.

Just go after the other job and don't feel bad about it.

[Anonymous]

OP you sound like a nice, considerate person. Seems you’ve given it a good try for six months (a decent amount if time) and are realizing this might not be the best fit for you. Of course it’s the case that you are free to explore other options.

When I worked for a company that was owned by private equity, I felt terrible leaving after only one year, when they had brought me in after a layoff. But I did really great work during my one year there, and they were genuinely happy for me when I got a fantastic new position. Less than two years later that old company was sold for parts by the private equity group and the teams were split up all over the place, laid off etc. So, if I hadn’t left on my own, I would have been out on the street anyway because the company busted up.

Moral of the story is to do good work, but don’t hesitate to continue to make career moves that serve you. The company is gonna do what it’s gonna do regardless of your loyalty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Laid off in May. Got a new job via personal connections in July. It's a lesser version of what I did in my last job if that makes sense. I went from closing six figure deals to four figure deals.

On top of it, company is extremely disorganized and micromanage-y. Like, to the point that a fellow new employee told me she regrets taking the job. (I'm not at that point yet, but she's also had a more chaotic six months than me.)

Boss is great, albeit disorganized. Some of my coworkers are great, others don't know how to do basic office functions. (I.e. coworker who "does not know how to use Teams" so she just doesn't use it and is impossible to reach...this is not age-related bc she's two years younger than me.) I like the work, but I don't think there's enough of it to fulfill me long-term.

A job more like my previous role opened up a few days ago, at a company I've long been trying to work at, and after much waffling, DH finally told me "You get one go around." So I reached out to the hiring manager (I know her personally) and said I'd like to apply, which she told me I should definitely do and she'd be in touch to schedule an interview once I formally applied.

...How much of a POS would I be to do this? I feel really bad; this job took me in when I was laid off, gave me a great salary, and other than being annoyed at the general chaos, I like everyone. It feels like a super shitty thing to do but I also just don't see myself being fulfilled in my current role for more than a couple years. Basically it's like a relationship where your boyfriend is okay but not "The One" but he's nice and takes care of you so you'd feel bad breaking up and looking for someone who is The One.

Thoughts? Basically I want you guys to tell me I'm not a complete POS but if I am being one, please tell me.

you sounds very narasistic or a troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not shitty at all. Employers and businesses do not care about any of us. If you died today, there'd be a posting for your job tomorrow. Do what is right for you and don't look back.

We have weekly meetings at 10am on Tuesdays. I'm hard pressed to think of one where my employer didn't disparage previous employees. He has called them:

"fat as f%%k"
"full on gay"
"smelled like a whore"
"needed a stiff poke in the whiskers"

And on and on.

Your employer could not care less about you. Give them as little as possible.

Imagine pouring your heart and soul into something only to be called slurs behind your back.

[Anonymous]

OP - Thanks everyone. I had the call with the hiring manager this morning. It went great, she's already talking about bringing me in for a panel interview, and I really, really want this job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you sound like a nice, considerate person. Seems you’ve given it a good try for six months (a decent amount if time) and are realizing this might not be the best fit for you. Of course it’s the case that you are free to explore other options.

When I worked for a company that was owned by private equity, I felt terrible leaving after only one year, when they had brought me in after a layoff. But I did really great work during my one year there, and they were genuinely happy for me when I got a fantastic new position. Less than two years later that old company was sold for parts by the private equity group and the teams were split up all over the place, laid off etc. So, if I hadn’t left on my own, I would have been out on the street anyway because the company busted up.

Moral of the story is to do good work, but don’t hesitate to continue to make career moves that serve you. The company is gonna do what it’s gonna do regardless of your loyalty.

OP here - Yes, this is where my thinking is starting to go. It's not even that it's not the best fit, it's just that this job I'm applying to IS best fit. If this job hadn't opened up, I wouldn't be searching. (I wouldn't even say I'm searching, because this was the only job I applied to lol.) Everyone is really nice, I would recommend it to people who are fine with a boutique/small firm (I'm used to huge organizations) but you're right, I need to make moves that will serve me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Laid off in May. Got a new job via personal connections in July. It's a lesser version of what I did in my last job if that makes sense. I went from closing six figure deals to four figure deals.

On top of it, company is extremely disorganized and micromanage-y. Like, to the point that a fellow new employee told me she regrets taking the job. (I'm not at that point yet, but she's also had a more chaotic six months than me.)

Boss is great, albeit disorganized. Some of my coworkers are great, others don't know how to do basic office functions. (I.e. coworker who "does not know how to use Teams" so she just doesn't use it and is impossible to reach...this is not age-related bc she's two years younger than me.) I like the work, but I don't think there's enough of it to fulfill me long-term.

A job more like my previous role opened up a few days ago, at a company I've long been trying to work at, and after much waffling, DH finally told me "You get one go around." So I reached out to the hiring manager (I know her personally) and said I'd like to apply, which she told me I should definitely do and she'd be in touch to schedule an interview once I formally applied.

...How much of a POS would I be to do this? I feel really bad; this job took me in when I was laid off, gave me a great salary, and other than being annoyed at the general chaos, I like everyone. It feels like a super shitty thing to do but I also just don't see myself being fulfilled in my current role for more than a couple years. Basically it's like a relationship where your boyfriend is okay but not "The One" but he's nice and takes care of you so you'd feel bad breaking up and looking for someone who is The One.

Thoughts? Basically I want you guys to tell me I'm not a complete POS but if I am being one, please tell me.

you sounds very narasistic or a troll

I'm not a narcissist (or a troll, but I'm not really sure who would troll the job board regarding conflicting feelings about a new opportunity) I just feel bad leaving a job after six months. I would in any position but especially for a company that hired me after a layoff where everyone is really nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not shitty at all. Employers and businesses do not care about any of us. If you died today, there'd be a posting for your job tomorrow. Do what is right for you and don't look back.

We have weekly meetings at 10am on Tuesdays. I'm hard pressed to think of one where my employer didn't disparage previous employees. He has called them:

"fat as f%%k"
"full on gay"
"smelled like a whore"
"needed a stiff poke in the whiskers"

And on and on.

Your employer could not care less about you. Give them as little as possible.

Imagine pouring your heart and soul into something only to be called slurs behind your back.

Jesus. Okay, I know companies don't care about you but that's crazy. I don't think my boss is doing THAT.

[Anonymous]

You do not owe your colleagues anything if you decide to leave, certainly not $100 each. You owe them:

--documentation on your current projects
--the courtesy of a reply if they reach out to you in the future. applies only if they were good to work with.

That's it.