Kids arrested outside of Whitman for selling coke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several kids outside of Whitman were just arrested for selling several ounces of "coke," per several sources at the school. Developing story...

Here are the facts: From windows, which we were told to move away from, we could see at least 6 police cars and about 2 dozen police officers with what appeared to be at least 6 students, allegedly from Whitman, sitting on the ground in front of a house for sale just across the street from the school a few houses up on a side street.

What circulated within minutes: a photo of the arrests. The Heresay: At least 11 students. Breaking and entering. Using the house on a regular basis since return from Winter break for lunchtime hangout sessions that may have involved controlled or illicit substances that are "harder" than weed.

My take: If true, daytime partying and drug use is not a new issue but the beyond-idiotic use of a for sale house across the street takes it to a new level.Yes, they will likely get off with a slap on the wrist because of the excellent legal representation they can afford.

I was surprised to see nothing online or the news but that might be because they were minors or news was not notified in time. Black and White (school newspaper) journalists told not to cover it. It is laughable that people, likely admin, on the forum are outright dismissing this as "didn't happen," simply because they wish it had not happened. Thank you for the gaslighting. Kristi Noem has job openings for you.

No notice from admin went out. It's "off campus" so evidently they can pretend it did not occur.

Give me a break. There are a lot more important things happening in the world right now than a handful of kids trespassing and smoking weed.

No this was not ok. Is it a big deal or that different from normal teen behavior? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Former Whitman parent until very recently here, the school has had a massive ongoing problem with failure to keep the campus safe, drug dealing and drug use. There are woods behind the school where students go to and from the school throughout the day to deal and use all kinds of drugs. Reports here are accurate about arrests, but the school won't comment because it's off campus, even though they know who leaves and returns throughout the day engaging in drug activity and dealing, and make no effort to stop them. There is also a serious culture now of dealing and trading Chinese peptides, testosterone and other concerning use.

For the last several years and especially since the former principal departed, Whitman has been in steep decline in terms of safety, education, parent communication and basic processes. They don't have school dances anymore for Homecoming because a student was sexually assaulted. Instead of addressing such a serious safety issue, and making the school safe for all students, they just stopped having a dance. In 2022, a coach and teacher was convicted due to SA offenses with minors.

The school has tremendous security problems, with vaping, violent fights and drug us/dealing open and known. Knives, guns and other weapons are brought to school and easily smuggled past the security. Students have reported the security guards are apparently in on it. Sadly, there's also a rotating group of students bused in from Baltimore placed in group homes who have ongoing weapons, opiate and cocaine dealing charges and continue to operate out of the school. Even troubled students have a right to care, support, and educational opportunity, but not without the guardrails and adult oversight to make sure there's even a chance to do so, which harms not just them, but also other students at school they deal to and engage in criminal activities.

I was shocked at the lack of timely, engaged parental communication when issues arose, often only hearing months later, or receiving letters from the current principal that were vague and followed by few changes to actually address the situation. Students easily fall through the cracks there, both because most of the staff is on auto-pilot and it's such a big school and leadership assumes students' families can just pay for expensive tutors or other outside-of-school supports due to the nature of the school district. They also were hit hard by the Maryland educational budget changes, so money now leaves the district and impacted Whitman notably, and the MoCo Board of Education has made many bad decisions since.

Whitman's previous reputation is no longer accurate, and I deeply regret that my child went there. Our family is still dealing with the personal impacts of the school's failure to ensure a safe environment for all students. I hope the school will take seriously that this has been so out of control, for so long, that students felt emboldened to do something so blatant right near the school. I hope this leads to change for the students still there.

So you're a former parent and you no longer have kids in school there. Yet somehow you still know about the inner workings of the school, the school culture, and about principal communication with parents. How is that so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several kids outside of Whitman were just arrested for selling several ounces of "coke," per several sources at the school. Developing story...

Here are the facts: From windows, which we were told to move away from, we could see at least 6 police cars and about 2 dozen police officers with what appeared to be at least 6 students, allegedly from Whitman, sitting on the ground in front of a house for sale just across the street from the school a few houses up on a side street.

What circulated within minutes: a photo of the arrests. The Heresay: At least 11 students. Breaking and entering. Using the house on a regular basis since return from Winter break for lunchtime hangout sessions that may have involved controlled or illicit substances that are "harder" than weed.

My take: If true, daytime partying and drug use is not a new issue but the beyond-idiotic use of a for sale house across the street takes it to a new level.Yes, they will likely get off with a slap on the wrist because of the excellent legal representation they can afford.

I was surprised to see nothing online or the news but that might be because they were minors or news was not notified in time. Black and White (school newspaper) journalists told not to cover it. It is laughable that people, likely admin, on the forum are outright dismissing this as "didn't happen," simply because they wish it had not happened. Thank you for the gaslighting. Kristi Noem has job openings for you.

No notice from admin went out. It's "off campus" so evidently they can pretend it did not occur.

Give me a break. There are a lot more important things happening in the world right now than a handful of kids trespassing and smoking weed.

No this was not ok. Is it a big deal or that different from normal teen behavior? No.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Several kids outside of Whitman were just arrested for selling several ounces of "coke," per several sources at the school. Developing story...

Street price of an ounce of coke is over $1,000, over a hundred lines. I doubt someone was selling that at a party in front of the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several kids outside of Whitman were just arrested for selling several ounces of "coke," per several sources at the school. Developing story...

Here are the facts: From windows, which we were told to move away from, we could see at least 6 police cars and about 2 dozen police officers with what appeared to be at least 6 students, allegedly from Whitman, sitting on the ground in front of a house for sale just across the street from the school a few houses up on a side street.

What circulated within minutes: a photo of the arrests. The Heresay: At least 11 students. Breaking and entering. Using the house on a regular basis since return from Winter break for lunchtime hangout sessions that may have involved controlled or illicit substances that are "harder" than weed.

My take: If true, daytime partying and drug use is not a new issue but the beyond-idiotic use of a for sale house across the street takes it to a new level.Yes, they will likely get off with a slap on the wrist because of the excellent legal representation they can afford.

I was surprised to see nothing online or the news but that might be because they were minors or news was not notified in time. Black and White (school newspaper) journalists told not to cover it. It is laughable that people, likely admin, on the forum are outright dismissing this as "didn't happen," simply because they wish it had not happened. Thank you for the gaslighting. Kristi Noem has job openings for you.

No notice from admin went out. It's "off campus" so evidently they can pretend it did not occur.

Thank you for this first hand account. How come Bethesda beat didn’t cover it? It is shocking that admin at the school is pretending this didn’t happen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several kids outside of Whitman were just arrested for selling several ounces of "coke," per several sources at the school. Developing story...

Here are the facts: From windows, which we were told to move away from, we could see at least 6 police cars and about 2 dozen police officers with what appeared to be at least 6 students, allegedly from Whitman, sitting on the ground in front of a house for sale just across the street from the school a few houses up on a side street.

What circulated within minutes: a photo of the arrests. The Heresay: At least 11 students. Breaking and entering. Using the house on a regular basis since return from Winter break for lunchtime hangout sessions that may have involved controlled or illicit substances that are "harder" than weed.

My take: If true, daytime partying and drug use is not a new issue but the beyond-idiotic use of a for sale house across the street takes it to a new level.Yes, they will likely get off with a slap on the wrist because of the excellent legal representation they can afford.

I was surprised to see nothing online or the news but that might be because they were minors or news was not notified in time. Black and White (school newspaper) journalists told not to cover it. It is laughable that people, likely admin, on the forum are outright dismissing this as "didn't happen," simply because they wish it had not happened. Thank you for the gaslighting. Kristi Noem has job openings for you.

No notice from admin went out. It's "off campus" so evidently they can pretend it did not occur.

Give me a break. There are a lot more important things happening in the world right now than a handful of kids trespassing and smoking weed.

No this was not ok. Is it a big deal or that different from normal teen behavior? No.

This is not normal teen behavior. You are failing as a parent to think this and allow your kids to behave this way. It is very important for many reasons. This is why some of us would not choose a W school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several kids outside of Whitman were just arrested for selling several ounces of "coke," per several sources at the school. Developing story...

Here are the facts: From windows, which we were told to move away from, we could see at least 6 police cars and about 2 dozen police officers with what appeared to be at least 6 students, allegedly from Whitman, sitting on the ground in front of a house for sale just across the street from the school a few houses up on a side street.

What circulated within minutes: a photo of the arrests. The Heresay: At least 11 students. Breaking and entering. Using the house on a regular basis since return from Winter break for lunchtime hangout sessions that may have involved controlled or illicit substances that are "harder" than weed.

My take: If true, daytime partying and drug use is not a new issue but the beyond-idiotic use of a for sale house across the street takes it to a new level.Yes, they will likely get off with a slap on the wrist because of the excellent legal representation they can afford.

I was surprised to see nothing online or the news but that might be because they were minors or news was not notified in time. Black and White (school newspaper) journalists told not to cover it. It is laughable that people, likely admin, on the forum are outright dismissing this as "didn't happen," simply because they wish it had not happened. Thank you for the gaslighting. Kristi Noem has job openings for you.

No notice from admin went out. It's "off campus" so evidently they can pretend it did not occur.

Thank you for this first hand account. How come Bethesda beat didn’t cover it? It is shocking that admin at the school is pretending this didn’t happen

Because rich parents pay people off and hire good attorneys to get the kids off and not get it put on the kids records.

It was off campus so it’s a parent issue, not an mcps issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several kids outside of Whitman were just arrested for selling several ounces of "coke," per several sources at the school. Developing story...

Street price of an ounce of coke is over $1,000, over a hundred lines. I doubt someone was selling that at a party in front of the school.

Of course it could happen or other drugs. Either way the kids broke into a house regularly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Former Whitman parent until very recently here, the school has had a massive ongoing problem with failure to keep the campus safe, drug dealing and drug use. There are woods behind the school where students go to and from the school throughout the day to deal and use all kinds of drugs. Reports here are accurate about arrests, but the school won't comment because it's off campus, even though they know who leaves and returns throughout the day engaging in drug activity and dealing, and make no effort to stop them. There is also a serious culture now of dealing and trading Chinese peptides, testosterone and other concerning use.

For the last several years and especially since the former principal departed, Whitman has been in steep decline in terms of safety, education, parent communication and basic processes. They don't have school dances anymore for Homecoming because a student was sexually assaulted. Instead of addressing such a serious safety issue, and making the school safe for all students, they just stopped having a dance. In 2022, a coach and teacher was convicted due to SA offenses with minors.

The school has tremendous security problems, with vaping, violent fights and drug us/dealing open and known. Knives, guns and other weapons are brought to school and easily smuggled past the security. Students have reported the security guards are apparently in on it. Sadly, there's also a rotating group of students bused in from Baltimore placed in group homes who have ongoing weapons, opiate and cocaine dealing charges and continue to operate out of the school. Even troubled students have a right to care, support, and educational opportunity, but not without the guardrails and adult oversight to make sure there's even a chance to do so, which harms not just them, but also other students at school they deal to and engage in criminal activities.

I was shocked at the lack of timely, engaged parental communication when issues arose, often only hearing months later, or receiving letters from the current principal that were vague and followed by few changes to actually address the situation. Students easily fall through the cracks there, both because most of the staff is on auto-pilot and it's such a big school and leadership assumes students' families can just pay for expensive tutors or other outside-of-school supports due to the nature of the school district. They also were hit hard by the Maryland educational budget changes, so money now leaves the district and impacted Whitman notably, and the MoCo Board of Education has made many bad decisions since.

Whitman's previous reputation is no longer accurate, and I deeply regret that my child went there. Our family is still dealing with the personal impacts of the school's failure to ensure a safe environment for all students. I hope the school will take seriously that this has been so out of control, for so long, that students felt emboldened to do something so blatant right near the school. I hope this leads to change for the students still there.

So you're a former parent and you no longer have kids in school there. Yet somehow you still know about the inner workings of the school, the school culture, and about principal communication with parents. How is that so?

It’s been a well known issue for 20-50 years since some of us were in hs. It’s nothing new. This is why some of us avoid the w schools. Big money can mean big problems but the big money covers it up. You pick your issues when you pick a school.

Parents need to stop blaming the schools for some stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen police bring issues to the school to give consequences for even though what happened was after school hours and off campus and should be handled by police, such as a student breaking into another student's house.

The partnership between mcps and MC police shelters the students from true consequences. I guess it's in the name of protection, but I can't help but think of it as a disservice that doesn't adequately prepare students for what happens after they're no longer in MCPS and break the law. The student and their peers are missing out on learning real life consequences. Not suggesting they should face the most severe consequences, but it should be handled by the police and not the school.

I don't doubt that the police showed up and then just sent there finding to the school when they discovered it was students. I hope I'm wrong though.

This is one situation where it is not mcps fault. It was off campus. It’s on the parents not school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it true that no drugs were found? Was it just teenagers being teenagers then? And yesterday was the last day of the quarter. No serious work was going on in classes anyway. And no, I am not a Whitman parent. We live in SS.

This isn’t teens being teens. Do your teens break into houses and skip school? Mine don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At whitman lots of kids do coke and heavy drugs

How do you know this?

+1

Whitman students come from highly educated families. The students are extremely competitive and involved in several activities. Why would they risk their college path with doing drugs? I doubt ‘lots’ of kids do drugs at Whitman.

How do you think the achieve like that?

[Anonymous]

I have no idea what here is true vs heresay.

If it is true, isn’t there a law that heightens penalties of drug use/sale within a certwin distance of a school? If so, presumably that applies here so it intensifies the matter.

Also, I am 58 and drug sales have been happening in high schools since my day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's so nasty how every time a wealthy public is mentioned, posters jump to the worse conclusions without presenting a shred of evidence.

Eat-the-rich mentality, but not targeting the right people. Maybe stick to targeting the billionaires who gave millions to Trump.

It’s the exact same thing that happens when a poor school is mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's so nasty how every time a wealthy public is mentioned, posters jump to the worse conclusions without presenting a shred of evidence.

Eat-the-rich mentality, but not targeting the right people. Maybe stick to targeting the billionaires who gave millions to Trump.

It’s the exact same thing that happens when a poor school is mentioned.

No, the poor schools get dragged through the news and everything else in less its the richer parents who can pay their way out.