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Anonymous wrote:OP, you are an oddity to them. They just happen to be acting odd too.

No they are racist anti american shits fixed it for you.

OP you are better off without that crap in your life

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend anyone with a green card to pursue citizenship; a green card isn't a permanent place to stay; it is a pathway to citizenship.

Not any more

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Anonymous wrote:Were you a legal immigrant as a baby?

I'm not MAGA but my MAGA relatives are the most supportive of legal immigration.

BS no they are not!

They are racist and have zero understanding of immigration period.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you are an oddity to them. They just happen to be acting odd too.

No they are racist anti american shits fixed it for you.

OP you are better off without that crap in your life

THIS.

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Anonymous wrote:So that means you are a legal immigrant with a green card. Unless they also want green card holders kicked out?

I honestly don't know. I fear they think we married for citizenship even though I never went through our marriage. Or maybe they lump me into the people they claim to hate because as a child I was here undocumented and they can't accept that. I'm truly not sure without a conversation with them. I thought we could at least have one not that they would give us the silent treatment

I'm an immigrant myself, a citizen after 20 years, and know immigration laws pretty well. Nobody gets deported for running a red light 20 years ago. This is just nonsense. I support ICE. Fully. I'm sick and tired of illegals sucking up resources just because they can. Your ILs are not picking up your message, because it's confrontational. They don't know immigration laws, just like you don't know immigration laws of say, Bulgaria. Not sure what you want from them? A promise you'll not get deported? They cannot give you that. If you used any resources before becoming a citizen, it may become a problem. They don't know what to say, because no matter what they say, it seems to be a problem for you. It's not their fault you were here undocumented as a child. In most countries, in fact in all I know, and I've lived and had long-term residence in 10 different ones, you'd get kicked out as soon as you're found out. I'm sure you had a better life here than in your home country, or you'd not have arrived here undocumented (and I hate this word, because you sure have documents somewhere). And if you hate it here or think you're entitled to stay no matter what and cannot, you know where your home country is.

You are completely out of the loop, PP. I talk to immigration lawyers NOW, who tell me their clients HAVE been detained for entirely outrageous reasons. They get them out, but not before they suffer weeks, sometimes months, in the most horrendous detention conditions. And those are the lucky people who are rich enough to retain lawyers, and who were actually allowed to call a lawyer. A lot can't even do that, because ICE puts them on a fast track to deportation without due process, WHICH IS ENTIRELY ILLEGAL.

The government is not actually implementing immigration laws! It is detaining and deporting people illegally.

Well, I'm literally in the immigrant community and don't know a single person who has been detained and deported. I'm certainly not out of the loop. Stop distributing fear. It's impossible to detain and deport people illegally here since the lawyers are all lined up. You really think any other country would spend months in courts over some illegal? Allow me to laugh. Like this woman who is an "activist" in Colorado, was hiding in church, completely illegal, and they cannot get rid of her!

Just because you don't know anyone personally doesn't mean it isn't happening. What an ignorant way of thinking. I live in Chicago and I can quickly name 5 people who have someone close to them who has been detained by ICE for nothing more than having brown skin. Some of them are US citizens (born here) and harassed for no reason other than having the wrong color skin.

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Racist is not the same as likely thinking Op is irresponsible

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Anonymous wrote:My in laws are very maga and their beliefs on immigration are hard and have been hard. There is no grey area for them.

I was brought here as a baby and didn't have a say. When I was 19 I got a Visa working with a local women's center. That granted me a green card and I am still not a citizen but I can file for an adjustment now.

We have a fam chat and recently they were praising ice and I sent a message saying that I'm not a us citizen and I haven't always had a green card, not my choice and my reality was very different and I'd love to have a conversation with the. If they are open.

No answer. Crickets. Not even an acknowledgement of that text and we haven't heard from them since. My sil also hasn't heard from them. We've been married for 12 years.

Guess that's all it took to be removed from the "family"

If you’re married to a US citizen you could have become a citizen long ago, right? What’s taking so long?

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Anonymous wrote:So that means you are a legal immigrant with a green card. Unless they also want green card holders kicked out?

I honestly don't know. I fear they think we married for citizenship even though I never went through our marriage. Or maybe they lump me into the people they claim to hate because as a child I was here undocumented and they can't accept that. I'm truly not sure without a conversation with them. I thought we could at least have one not that they would give us the silent treatment

I'm an immigrant myself, a citizen after 20 years, and know immigration laws pretty well. Nobody gets deported for running a red light 20 years ago. This is just nonsense. I support ICE. Fully. I'm sick and tired of illegals sucking up resources just because they can. Your ILs are not picking up your message, because it's confrontational. They don't know immigration laws, just like you don't know immigration laws of say, Bulgaria. Not sure what you want from them? A promise you'll not get deported? They cannot give you that. If you used any resources before becoming a citizen, it may become a problem. They don't know what to say, because no matter what they say, it seems to be a problem for you. It's not their fault you were here undocumented as a child. In most countries, in fact in all I know, and I've lived and had long-term residence in 10 different ones, you'd get kicked out as soon as you're found out. I'm sure you had a better life here than in your home country, or you'd not have arrived here undocumented (and I hate this word, because you sure have documents somewhere). And if you hate it here or think you're entitled to stay no matter what and cannot, you know where your home country is.

You are completely out of the loop, PP. I talk to immigration lawyers NOW, who tell me their clients HAVE been detained for entirely outrageous reasons. They get them out, but not before they suffer weeks, sometimes months, in the most horrendous detention conditions. And those are the lucky people who are rich enough to retain lawyers, and who were actually allowed to call a lawyer. A lot can't even do that, because ICE puts them on a fast track to deportation without due process, WHICH IS ENTIRELY ILLEGAL.

The government is not actually implementing immigration laws! It is detaining and deporting people illegally.

Well, I'm literally in the immigrant community and don't know a single person who has been detained and deported. I'm certainly not out of the loop. Stop distributing fear. It's impossible to detain and deport people illegally here since the lawyers are all lined up. You really think any other country would spend months in courts over some illegal? Allow me to laugh. Like this woman who is an "activist" in Colorado, was hiding in church, completely illegal, and they cannot get rid of her!

Just because you don't know anyone personally doesn't mean it isn't happening. What an ignorant way of thinking. I live in Chicago and I can quickly name 5 people who have someone close to them who has been detained by ICE for nothing more than having brown skin. Some of them are US citizens (born here) and harassed for no reason other than having the wrong color skin.

That's the whole point of immigration enforcement: you detain people and ask to see their documents. It's like showing your driver's license and insurance to police when stopped at a traffic stop. Maybe people with brown skin should not be stopped in traffic either? They should be allowed to speed and run a red light without any consequences, because later on it might affect their immigration status? Stop spiraling. In all other countries you have to carry your ID with you at all times and you know it. I traveled for 30 years with different visas in my passport (2 passports full) and they were checked upon an entry to any other country, often I had to show I had enough money to support me during my stay. The fact that the immigration laws here were not enforced for 30 years (for political gain) doesn't mean you can now live here "undocumented" or on "temporary protected status" forever. This entitlement is absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:"OP can I ask why you're not a citizen if you've been married for 12 years? I'm just curious because it seems like it puts you into a situation with this administration"

It is an urban myth that any foreigner here without proper documentation can marry a USA citizen and easily get citizenship. It doesn't work that way. A requirement is that the non-USA citizen entered the USA legally. You're SOL if you are here without a proper visa or if it expired. https://www.boundless.com/immigration-resources/marriage-based-green-cards-explained

And even if they did enter the USA legally, if they are from a country with a big backlog of people trying to come to the USA to join family, they'll wait for a LONG time.

"Over 1.17 million approved I-130 petitions were waiting for visa availability as of mid-2025
Countries with particularly high backlogs include Mexico, India, China, and the Philippines"

Thank you for posting this. I get so frustrated when people ask "why don't you just get citizenship?" There is no legal pathway to citizenship for people who entered illegally as a child. This is why DACA was created and why it's absolutely inexcusable that neither party has done anything to help these people gain citizenship. You shouldn't be punished for something that happened to you when you were a child.

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Anonymous wrote:So that means you are a legal immigrant with a green card. Unless they also want green card holders kicked out?

I honestly don't know. I fear they think we married for citizenship even though I never went through our marriage. Or maybe they lump me into the people they claim to hate because as a child I was here undocumented and they can't accept that. I'm truly not sure without a conversation with them. I thought we could at least have one not that they would give us the silent treatment

I'm an immigrant myself, a citizen after 20 years, and know immigration laws pretty well. Nobody gets deported for running a red light 20 years ago. This is just nonsense. I support ICE. Fully. I'm sick and tired of illegals sucking up resources just because they can. Your ILs are not picking up your message, because it's confrontational. They don't know immigration laws, just like you don't know immigration laws of say, Bulgaria. Not sure what you want from them? A promise you'll not get deported? They cannot give you that. If you used any resources before becoming a citizen, it may become a problem. They don't know what to say, because no matter what they say, it seems to be a problem for you. It's not their fault you were here undocumented as a child. In most countries, in fact in all I know, and I've lived and had long-term residence in 10 different ones, you'd get kicked out as soon as you're found out. I'm sure you had a better life here than in your home country, or you'd not have arrived here undocumented (and I hate this word, because you sure have documents somewhere). And if you hate it here or think you're entitled to stay no matter what and cannot, you know where your home country is.

You are completely out of the loop, PP. I talk to immigration lawyers NOW, who tell me their clients HAVE been detained for entirely outrageous reasons. They get them out, but not before they suffer weeks, sometimes months, in the most horrendous detention conditions. And those are the lucky people who are rich enough to retain lawyers, and who were actually allowed to call a lawyer. A lot can't even do that, because ICE puts them on a fast track to deportation without due process, WHICH IS ENTIRELY ILLEGAL.

The government is not actually implementing immigration laws! It is detaining and deporting people illegally.

Well, I'm literally in the immigrant community and don't know a single person who has been detained and deported. I'm certainly not out of the loop. Stop distributing fear. It's impossible to detain and deport people illegally here since the lawyers are all lined up. You really think any other country would spend months in courts over some illegal? Allow me to laugh. Like this woman who is an "activist" in Colorado, was hiding in church, completely illegal, and they cannot get rid of her!

Just because you don't know anyone personally doesn't mean it isn't happening. What an ignorant way of thinking. I live in Chicago and I can quickly name 5 people who have someone close to them who has been detained by ICE for nothing more than having brown skin. Some of them are US citizens (born here) and harassed for no reason other than having the wrong color skin.

That's the whole point of immigration enforcement: you detain people and ask to see their documents. It's like showing your driver's license and insurance to police when stopped at a traffic stop. Maybe people with brown skin should not be stopped in traffic either? They should be allowed to speed and run a red light without any consequences, because later on it might affect their immigration status? Stop spiraling. In all other countries you have to carry your ID with you at all times and you know it. I traveled for 30 years with different visas in my passport (2 passports full) and they were checked upon an entry to any other country, often I had to show I had enough money to support me during my stay. The fact that the immigration laws here were not enforced for 30 years (for political gain) doesn't mean you can now live here "undocumented" or on "temporary protected status" forever. This entitlement is absurd.

If you genuinely believe that every single undocumented person should be deported regardless of any circumstances then there's no point in trying to have a conversation. This is not a simple black and white issue and it's incredibly ignorant to treat it as such. Have a great day. I hope if ICE comes to your door they treat you the same way you want others to be treated.

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Anonymous wrote:So that means you are a legal immigrant with a green card. Unless they also want green card holders kicked out?

I honestly don't know. I fear they think we married for citizenship even though I never went through our marriage. Or maybe they lump me into the people they claim to hate because as a child I was here undocumented and they can't accept that. I'm truly not sure without a conversation with them. I thought we could at least have one not that they would give us the silent treatment

I'm an immigrant myself, a citizen after 20 years, and know immigration laws pretty well. Nobody gets deported for running a red light 20 years ago. This is just nonsense. I support ICE. Fully. I'm sick and tired of illegals sucking up resources just because they can. Your ILs are not picking up your message, because it's confrontational. They don't know immigration laws, just like you don't know immigration laws of say, Bulgaria. Not sure what you want from them? A promise you'll not get deported? They cannot give you that. If you used any resources before becoming a citizen, it may become a problem. They don't know what to say, because no matter what they say, it seems to be a problem for you. It's not their fault you were here undocumented as a child. In most countries, in fact in all I know, and I've lived and had long-term residence in 10 different ones, you'd get kicked out as soon as you're found out. I'm sure you had a better life here than in your home country, or you'd not have arrived here undocumented (and I hate this word, because you sure have documents somewhere). And if you hate it here or think you're entitled to stay no matter what and cannot, you know where your home country is.

You are completely out of the loop, PP. I talk to immigration lawyers NOW, who tell me their clients HAVE been detained for entirely outrageous reasons. They get them out, but not before they suffer weeks, sometimes months, in the most horrendous detention conditions. And those are the lucky people who are rich enough to retain lawyers, and who were actually allowed to call a lawyer. A lot can't even do that, because ICE puts them on a fast track to deportation without due process, WHICH IS ENTIRELY ILLEGAL.

The government is not actually implementing immigration laws! It is detaining and deporting people illegally.

Well, I'm literally in the immigrant community and don't know a single person who has been detained and deported. I'm certainly not out of the loop. Stop distributing fear. It's impossible to detain and deport people illegally here since the lawyers are all lined up. You really think any other country would spend months in courts over some illegal? Allow me to laugh. Like this woman who is an "activist" in Colorado, was hiding in church, completely illegal, and they cannot get rid of her!

Just because you don't know anyone personally doesn't mean it isn't happening. What an ignorant way of thinking. I live in Chicago and I can quickly name 5 people who have someone close to them who has been detained by ICE for nothing more than having brown skin. Some of them are US citizens (born here) and harassed for no reason other than having the wrong color skin.

That's the whole point of immigration enforcement: you detain people and ask to see their documents. It's like showing your driver's license and insurance to police when stopped at a traffic stop. Maybe people with brown skin should not be stopped in traffic either? They should be allowed to speed and run a red light without any consequences, because later on it might affect their immigration status? Stop spiraling. In all other countries you have to carry your ID with you at all times and you know it. I traveled for 30 years with different visas in my passport (2 passports full) and they were checked upon an entry to any other country, often I had to show I had enough money to support me during my stay. The fact that the immigration laws here were not enforced for 30 years (for political gain) doesn't mean you can now live here "undocumented" or on "temporary protected status" forever. This entitlement is absurd.

If you genuinely believe that every single undocumented person should be deported regardless of any circumstances then there's no point in trying to have a conversation. This is not a simple black and white issue and it's incredibly ignorant to treat it as such. Have a great day. I hope if ICE comes to your door they treat you the same way you want others to be treated.

Nobody is "undocumented". Wah wah ICE asked for my documents!!! You have documents somewhere. You were born somewhere. You have parents who were born somewhere. The fact that you hide your documents does not make you "undocumented". You have the citizenship of the country of your parents. You can go to your consulate and ask for help. You can leave and live legally in your home country. All countries have an obligation to take in their citizens. Obviously it's black and white. Legal immigrants spent years and lots of money following all the rules to have proper papers, had to do medical tests, and take about 20 vaccines as only "healthy" people are allowed to get naturalized. I had to leave the country for 2 years and be separated from my DH, because that's how the laws are (I was here on a prestigious scholarship). I know several people who stayed in their home countries to wait until all their immigration documents were in order, some for 5-6 years, in order to marry or join their families! How about we all become "undocumented"? Sounds much easier to just waltz in and then expect freebies! Looks like all the "undocumented" folks have more rights than anyone else! Maybe we all should invite our relatives here as "undocumented" and have at it?!

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Anonymous wrote:So that means you are a legal immigrant with a green card. Unless they also want green card holders kicked out?

I honestly don't know. I fear they think we married for citizenship even though I never went through our marriage. Or maybe they lump me into the people they claim to hate because as a child I was here undocumented and they can't accept that. I'm truly not sure without a conversation with them. I thought we could at least have one not that they would give us the silent treatment

I'm an immigrant myself, a citizen after 20 years, and know immigration laws pretty well. Nobody gets deported for running a red light 20 years ago. This is just nonsense. I support ICE. Fully. I'm sick and tired of illegals sucking up resources just because they can. Your ILs are not picking up your message, because it's confrontational. They don't know immigration laws, just like you don't know immigration laws of say, Bulgaria. Not sure what you want from them? A promise you'll not get deported? They cannot give you that. If you used any resources before becoming a citizen, it may become a problem. They don't know what to say, because no matter what they say, it seems to be a problem for you. It's not their fault you were here undocumented as a child. In most countries, in fact in all I know, and I've lived and had long-term residence in 10 different ones, you'd get kicked out as soon as you're found out. I'm sure you had a better life here than in your home country, or you'd not have arrived here undocumented (and I hate this word, because you sure have documents somewhere). And if you hate it here or think you're entitled to stay no matter what and cannot, you know where your home country is.

You are completely out of the loop, PP. I talk to immigration lawyers NOW, who tell me their clients HAVE been detained for entirely outrageous reasons. They get them out, but not before they suffer weeks, sometimes months, in the most horrendous detention conditions. And those are the lucky people who are rich enough to retain lawyers, and who were actually allowed to call a lawyer. A lot can't even do that, because ICE puts them on a fast track to deportation without due process, WHICH IS ENTIRELY ILLEGAL.

The government is not actually implementing immigration laws! It is detaining and deporting people illegally.

Well, I'm literally in the immigrant community and don't know a single person who has been detained and deported. I'm certainly not out of the loop. Stop distributing fear. It's impossible to detain and deport people illegally here since the lawyers are all lined up. You really think any other country would spend months in courts over some illegal? Allow me to laugh. Like this woman who is an "activist" in Colorado, was hiding in church, completely illegal, and they cannot get rid of her!

Just because you don't know anyone personally doesn't mean it isn't happening. What an ignorant way of thinking. I live in Chicago and I can quickly name 5 people who have someone close to them who has been detained by ICE for nothing more than having brown skin. Some of them are US citizens (born here) and harassed for no reason other than having the wrong color skin.

That's the whole point of immigration enforcement: you detain people and ask to see their documents. It's like showing your driver's license and insurance to police when stopped at a traffic stop. Maybe people with brown skin should not be stopped in traffic either? They should be allowed to speed and run a red light without any consequences, because later on it might affect their immigration status? Stop spiraling. In all other countries you have to carry your ID with you at all times and you know it. I traveled for 30 years with different visas in my passport (2 passports full) and they were checked upon an entry to any other country, often I had to show I had enough money to support me during my stay. The fact that the immigration laws here were not enforced for 30 years (for political gain) doesn't mean you can now live here "undocumented" or on "temporary protected status" forever. This entitlement is absurd.

If you genuinely believe that every single undocumented person should be deported regardless of any circumstances then there's no point in trying to have a conversation. This is not a simple black and white issue and it's incredibly ignorant to treat it as such. Have a great day. I hope if ICE comes to your door they treat you the same way you want others to be treated.

Nobody is "undocumented". Wah wah ICE asked for my documents!!! You have documents somewhere. You were born somewhere. You have parents who were born somewhere. The fact that you hide your documents does not make you "undocumented". You have the citizenship of the country of your parents. You can go to your consulate and ask for help. You can leave and live legally in your home country. All countries have an obligation to take in their citizens. Obviously it's black and white. Legal immigrants spent years and lots of money following all the rules to have proper papers, had to do medical tests, and take about 20 vaccines as only "healthy" people are allowed to get naturalized. I had to leave the country for 2 years and be separated from my DH, because that's how the laws are (I was here on a prestigious scholarship). I know several people who stayed in their home countries to wait until all their immigration documents were in order, some for 5-6 years, in order to marry or join their families! How about we all become "undocumented"? Sounds much easier to just waltz in and then expect freebies! Looks like all the "undocumented" folks have more rights than anyone else! Maybe we all should invite our relatives here as "undocumented" and have at it?!

This is profoundly ignorant of the current reality.

The administration is REGULARLY picking up and detaining people with lawful status and, further, has taken unprecedented steps to cancel the lawful status of people who did come the right way - and then detain and deport them.

Further, there ARE people who are stateless and countries who will not accept the return of their citizens. There are people, especially refugees, who have no documents or extremely limited documents. There are countries in which documents barely exist or are regularly destroyed.

Your myopic view of 'how to be a good immigrant' does not take into account the system as a whole. I hope your 'good immigrant' status protects you.

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There are very few people who are truly stateless. Some countries don't accept deported citizens with criminal convictions, again hopefully doesn't apply to you. This is not the majority of illegals. Refugees have documents as they need to prove where they come from one way or the other. Most people who are "undocumented" know exactly where they came from and simply don't want to go back, because they're better off here. You are making circular arguments. I also don't get this fretting about a "good immigrant" status! If you're a young person, you already got free education, are bi-lingual and can easily find employment elsewhere. Do you realize that the US holds only about 4.3% of world population? There are people living everywhere! As soon as my kids are college bound, I'm out of here! Maybe we could do "undocumented" in-state tuition in some other state, whatcha think?!

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Btw, I'm advising my kids to get college education elsewhere as well as most colleges here are now liberal brainwashing bastions. So we'll see! Hasta la vista!

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Anonymous wrote:So that means you are a legal immigrant with a green card. Unless they also want green card holders kicked out?

I honestly don't know. I fear they think we married for citizenship even though I never went through our marriage. Or maybe they lump me into the people they claim to hate because as a child I was here undocumented and they can't accept that. I'm truly not sure without a conversation with them. I thought we could at least have one not that they would give us the silent treatment

I'm an immigrant myself, a citizen after 20 years, and know immigration laws pretty well. Nobody gets deported for running a red light 20 years ago. This is just nonsense. I support ICE. Fully. I'm sick and tired of illegals sucking up resources just because they can. Your ILs are not picking up your message, because it's confrontational. They don't know immigration laws, just like you don't know immigration laws of say, Bulgaria. Not sure what you want from them? A promise you'll not get deported? They cannot give you that. If you used any resources before becoming a citizen, it may become a problem. They don't know what to say, because no matter what they say, it seems to be a problem for you. It's not their fault you were here undocumented as a child. In most countries, in fact in all I know, and I've lived and had long-term residence in 10 different ones, you'd get kicked out as soon as you're found out. I'm sure you had a better life here than in your home country, or you'd not have arrived here undocumented (and I hate this word, because you sure have documents somewhere). And if you hate it here or think you're entitled to stay no matter what and cannot, you know where your home country is.

You are completely out of the loop, PP. I talk to immigration lawyers NOW, who tell me their clients HAVE been detained for entirely outrageous reasons. They get them out, but not before they suffer weeks, sometimes months, in the most horrendous detention conditions. And those are the lucky people who are rich enough to retain lawyers, and who were actually allowed to call a lawyer. A lot can't even do that, because ICE puts them on a fast track to deportation without due process, WHICH IS ENTIRELY ILLEGAL.

The government is not actually implementing immigration laws! It is detaining and deporting people illegally.

Well, I'm literally in the immigrant community and don't know a single person who has been detained and deported. I'm certainly not out of the loop. Stop distributing fear. It's impossible to detain and deport people illegally here since the lawyers are all lined up. You really think any other country would spend months in courts over some illegal? Allow me to laugh. Like this woman who is an "activist" in Colorado, was hiding in church, completely illegal, and they cannot get rid of her!

Just because you don't know anyone personally doesn't mean it isn't happening. What an ignorant way of thinking. I live in Chicago and I can quickly name 5 people who have someone close to them who has been detained by ICE for nothing more than having brown skin. Some of them are US citizens (born here) and harassed for no reason other than having the wrong color skin.

That's the whole point of immigration enforcement: you detain people and ask to see their documents. It's like showing your driver's license and insurance to police when stopped at a traffic stop. Maybe people with brown skin should not be stopped in traffic either? They should be allowed to speed and run a red light without any consequences, because later on it might affect their immigration status? Stop spiraling. In all other countries you have to carry your ID with you at all times and you know it. I traveled for 30 years with different visas in my passport (2 passports full) and they were checked upon an entry to any other country, often I had to show I had enough money to support me during my stay. The fact that the immigration laws here were not enforced for 30 years (for political gain) doesn't mean you can now live here "undocumented" or on "temporary protected status" forever. This entitlement is absurd.

If you genuinely believe that every single undocumented person should be deported regardless of any circumstances then there's no point in trying to have a conversation. This is not a simple black and white issue and it's incredibly ignorant to treat it as such. Have a great day. I hope if ICE comes to your door they treat you the same way you want others to be treated.

Nobody is "undocumented". Wah wah ICE asked for my documents!!! You have documents somewhere. You were born somewhere. You have parents who were born somewhere. The fact that you hide your documents does not make you "undocumented". You have the citizenship of the country of your parents. You can go to your consulate and ask for help. You can leave and live legally in your home country. All countries have an obligation to take in their citizens. Obviously it's black and white. Legal immigrants spent years and lots of money following all the rules to have proper papers, had to do medical tests, and take about 20 vaccines as only "healthy" people are allowed to get naturalized. I had to leave the country for 2 years and be separated from my DH, because that's how the laws are (I was here on a prestigious scholarship). I know several people who stayed in their home countries to wait until all their immigration documents were in order, some for 5-6 years, in order to marry or join their families! How about we all become "undocumented"? Sounds much easier to just waltz in and then expect freebies! Looks like all the "undocumented" folks have more rights than anyone else! Maybe we all should invite our relatives here as "undocumented" and have at it?!

I hope the level of bullsh!t you spew pads your landing when you fall from your high horse. Have a great day.