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He gets laughs by punching down. Is that masculine? I guess sometimes he gets laughs by talking about having to flush the toilet 10 times, which admittedly does seem masculine to me. |
Sensible things?? Whenever you hear someone saying messed-up and stupid things about human relationships, odds are very very good it’s a right winger: - Relationships are cold transactional power struggles (“men lead/women follow”) - Men created and invented literally everything in the world and ungrateful women should be falling into bed to thank them - Loneliness is exclusively a male problem which women are responsible for fixing - Western women are “ruined” (code word for uppity) - immigrants are “taking our women” (as if women are possessions with no agency) - women only want men who are 6 feet tall and make 6 figure incomes - women only want bad boys, therefore they all want to be abused - women read 50 Shades of Grey, therefore they all want to be assaulted - women hit “the wall” at age 25 - age 14 is peak fertility for women - men do not care about women’s jobs, hobbies, interests, achievements, or opinions - women’s only purpose is to make babies and serve men All of these are common tropes among young men who’ve gone down the RW rabbit hole. They’re not learning these from Democrats. They’re getting them from alt-right podcasters, YouTube channels, TikTok, Reddit, 4chan, and organizations like TPUSA. The redpill-to-Nazi pipeline is well established. There’s a lot of money to be made by keeping an impressionable young male audience lonely, unpartnered, sexually insecure, and perpetually angry. Why would influencers give good advice? They’d lose their income. The billionaires who back these efforts need young men to vote a certain way so they can get their tax breaks, favorable legislation, and government contracts. Follow the money. |
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If you can’t see the hostility to young men, particularly straight white men, in the modern Left’s messaging you are willfully blind.
The entire identity/diversity movement is based on excluding straight white men. What does BIPOC mean? It means “not white.” What does it mean if an organization lacks diversity? It means too many men and/or too many white people. It never means too few men or white people. If you are a young man who hasn’t found a place in the world you feel targeted, and you aren’t wrong. This article is one perspective on the phenomenon: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/ If the Democrats want to turn things around they need to understand that a young man coming of age in 2025 (particularly white men) finds himself in the minority, often a small minority, in universities, corporate America, the media, and every other path towards a stable upper middle class existence. The Ivy League today is only roughly one third white and a bit over 50% female… leaving white males at roughly 15% of undergrads. Meanwhile they continue to be told that they are somehow responsible for every ill of the generations that came before them and that they are “privileged.” Yes, there are still many white men in senior positions across America, but they are men from a different generation (often still baby boomers) and their experience was totally different from a young man today. The old school Democratic Party wanted union voters, rural voters, working class white people who celebrated America, but the modern party is increasingly urban, coastal, and intolerant of anyone that deviates from their orthodoxy. Does that make Trump a good alternative? Obviously not… but at this point you are dealing with voters who feel like they only have bad choices. |
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They aren’t right-wing the way you think about it. They are disaffected and alienated, with no sense of hope for the future, and for the most part only the right-wing has recognized that. In NYC, Mamdani rode that same wave of disaffected populism very successfully. But otherwise, only the right-wing acknowledges the very real problems (lack of work, lack of hope for the future) facing young men. The left wing right now is largely either entirely corporatist or only focused on issues that primarily impact women.
No society does well long-term with large numbers of unemployed and underemployed young men. You can demonize young men for how they feel and their lived experiences (which is the typical response of your average DCUM Democrat and the Democratic establishment) or you can try not being arrogant and actually listening. I don’t think the Democrats survive as a party if they can’t start recognizing and acknowledging the struggles of young men. And it can be done well: look at Mamdani. |
An actual conservative probably wouldn't have voted for Trump.
This is the real reason. Young men are likely (and rightfully) getting tired of and annoyed by being told by so many "liberals" that they are worthless or worse. They looked for an alternative and found Trump. Hopefully, they will get smarter in the future, and there will be less vitriol from the left against young males in particular. |
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Will young men switch to the dems because there is less vitriol against them, or will there be less vitriol against them because they switched to the dems? You have raised a chicken and egg question that likely needs to be addressed to achieve the outcome you desire. |
I don't think the vitriol is really the problem. The vitriol is just a product of the Democrats getting caught red handed on labor issues and fanning flames race, gender, class etc. instead of backing off on immigration. So, yes tomorrow they could say, "America is the most skilled and talented nation that has ever existed. They are the most productive nation and generation ever; they are about to demolish work. All the immigrants want to come here because we built the best education system ever.", but if they don't change their policies around immigration. I'm still voting against Democrats. In fact I am at the point, that the more vitriol the Democrats spew, the better. So, let's here some more vitriol. |
You can sit and whine or you can get off your behind and actually work without blaming everyone who doesn’t look like you. Lazy and entitled seldom wins except if you’re Trump. |
Trump masculine I can't stop laughing. He's a narcissist cry baby. Masculine
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Yes, but the right doesn’t actually DO anything. They make up problems that they then “solve,” and eventually the marks will figure it out. It’s happening now in real time with Hispanics and other POC. Eventually the young men will figure out how useless and beta maga is. |
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But they aren’t voting for Democrats instead. They just aren’t voting at all. |
The far right is misogynistic to it's core and so is your son. |
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