Why are younger men so right wing?

Anonymous
Young, college aged men still majority voted for Harris…and they swung even more to Democrats in the 2025 election.

The 18-30 demographic was most right during Reagan years…peaking in 1984. Like 61% in 1984.
Anonymous
This guy has a good point — men without college degrees are not doing as well as their fathers did. And conservatives are the only ones talking about that.

“… everyone said, if you talk about the problems of boys and men, everyone will think you're a frothing at the mouth conservative. But I said, well, that's the very definition of a vicious cycle. If you basically say the only people allowed to talk about boys and men's issues are frothing at the mouth conservatives, you can't really complain that they're the only people talking about it, right? You've just ceded that ground to them.”

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/nx-s1-5651916

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My main concern with right wing men is the misogyny - as in such extreme religious views, they expect their wives to obey them and "submit" to them like Charlie Kirk or Hegseth.

Also the racism, as exposed by the Young Republican chat.

None of this is on and those on the right should also be condemning this.


DP to add, also generally concerning views that will undermine family stability. Charlie Kirk advocated foe women marrying as young as possible. However, research shows that carries a higher risk of divorce. Couple that with the expectation for women to submit to their husbands, it is a recipe for disaster.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The left has nothing for him but blame.


Young men have nothing to be blamed for - UNTIL they start making the wrong choices in life. Like voting for Trump, because that's when they become part of the problem.

Dishonest hateful MAGAs project the stuff they are legitimately blamed for onto others - in this case, young men, pretending it's all for no reason. People like Fuentes, Kirk, and others convince young men that they are hated and despised and discriminated against from they day they are born, even when that's not true.

They act like their embracing of what they say they are accused of is not their choice. It's like when Hillary Clinton said half of the Republicans were deplorable and then for whatever reason people who were not ever personally accused of being deplorable started going around referring to themselves as deplorable. And, worse yet, earning that title by starting to go around boldly behaving in deplorable ways. They act like the left somehow forced them to do it, as if they had no choice in the matter. But they did have choice. They could have taken the high road but didn't.

They act like some political figure on the left broadly gesturing is personally targeting them - but Hillary Clinton and the rest don't know the first thing about you, personally. The right wing constantly accuses people like me of being communist and satanic and whatever else, but I certainly don't feel compelled to embrace communism or satanism, just because the right wing said I do - so why do young men on the right feel compelled to lean into hard right politics and blame the left for it? It's a lack of critical thinking, and manipulative tactics by the right wing who sell them on the notion of them being victimized when in fact they have a whole range of choices available to them.
Anonymous
Because they would rather sit and whine that everything is someone else’s fault than take responsibility for their own lives. Whiny and entitled.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son is 32 and just told me he voted for Trump three times. I’m embarrassed and feel like a failure. We raised him in a liberal environment and now he’s become radicalized

He’s not even your stereotypical trump voter or whatever. Good job in coastal city, just got engaged, owns a house, many friends. But he’s gone down this rabbit hole of right wing politics and it leaves me baffled


It's pretty simple this case:

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/eta/eta20211019

When you start digging into it you realize two things.

A) How widespread and embedded this practice of replacing American jobs. Numerous government agencies are involved. They're all looking the other way when Democrats are in power. They enable businesses to do hostile searches and make you jump through all kinds of hoops, when they never intend to hire you.

B) The Democrats prioritize this over every other agenda. The view it as a moral issue, discussion of such isn't even on the table.

Once a person realizes that, from there everything else in the platform just becomes empty signaling.

California biggest oil producer.
Epstein was a Democrat.
Segregation is an Urban problem.
Catholics are never going to vote for abortion.
Zuckerberg the billionaire is a Democrat.
etc.

The list goes on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is 32 and just told me he voted for Trump three times. I’m embarrassed and feel like a failure. We raised him in a liberal environment and now he’s become radicalized

He’s not even your stereotypical trump voter or whatever. Good job in coastal city, just got engaged, owns a house, many friends. But he’s gone down this rabbit hole of right wing politics and it leaves me baffled


It's pretty simple this case:

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/eta/eta20211019

When you start digging into it you realize two things.

A) How widespread and embedded this practice of replacing American jobs. Numerous government agencies are involved. They're all looking the other way when Democrats are in power. They enable businesses to do hostile searches and make you jump through all kinds of hoops, when they never intend to hire you.

B) The Democrats prioritize this over every other agenda. The view it as a moral issue, discussion of such isn't even on the table.

Once a person realizes that, from there everything else in the platform just becomes empty signaling.

California biggest oil producer.
Epstein was a Democrat.
Segregation is an Urban problem.
Catholics are never going to vote for abortion.
Zuckerberg the billionaire is a Democrat.
etc.

The list goes on.

Exhibit A of swallowing the right-wing Kool Aid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son is 32 and just told me he voted for Trump three times. I’m embarrassed and feel like a failure. We raised him in a liberal environment and now he’s become radicalized

He’s not even your stereotypical trump voter or whatever. Good job in coastal city, just got engaged, owns a house, many friends. But he’s gone down this rabbit hole of right wing politics and it leaves me baffled


Did you keep pushing the toxic mascu1inity DNC narrative down his throat?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is 32 and just told me he voted for Trump three times. I’m embarrassed and feel like a failure. We raised him in a liberal environment and now he’s become radicalized

He’s not even your stereotypical trump voter or whatever. Good job in coastal city, just got engaged, owns a house, many friends. But he’s gone down this rabbit hole of right wing politics and it leaves me baffled


It's pretty simple this case:

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/eta/eta20211019

When you start digging into it you realize two things.

A) How widespread and embedded this practice of replacing American jobs. Numerous government agencies are involved. They're all looking the other way when Democrats are in power. They enable businesses to do hostile searches and make you jump through all kinds of hoops, when they never intend to hire you.

B) The Democrats prioritize this over every other agenda. The view it as a moral issue, discussion of such isn't even on the table.

Once a person realizes that, from there everything else in the platform just becomes empty signaling.

California biggest oil producer.
Epstein was a Democrat.
Segregation is an Urban problem.
Catholics are never going to vote for abortion.
Zuckerberg the billionaire is a Democrat.
etc.

The list goes on.

Exhibit A of swallowing the right-wing Kool Aid.


Democrats don't even give us Kool Aid.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is 32 and just told me he voted for Trump three times. I’m embarrassed and feel like a failure. We raised him in a liberal environment and now he’s become radicalized

He’s not even your stereotypical trump voter or whatever. Good job in coastal city, just got engaged, owns a house, many friends. But he’s gone down this rabbit hole of right wing politics and it leaves me baffled


It's pretty simple this case:

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/eta/eta20211019

When you start digging into it you realize two things.

A) How widespread and embedded this practice of replacing American jobs. Numerous government agencies are involved. They're all looking the other way when Democrats are in power. They enable businesses to do hostile searches and make you jump through all kinds of hoops, when they never intend to hire you.

B) The Democrats prioritize this over every other agenda. The view it as a moral issue, discussion of such isn't even on the table.

Once a person realizes that, from there everything else in the platform just becomes empty signaling.

California biggest oil producer.
Epstein was a Democrat.
Segregation is an Urban problem.
Catholics are never going to vote for abortion.
Zuckerberg the billionaire is a Democrat.
etc.

The list goes on.

Exhibit A of swallowing the right-wing Kool Aid.


Democrats don't even give us Kool Aid.

Stop whining and get your own. No one owes you anything for just existing.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No real man is liberal.


They can’t be. They have actively villainized masculinity for the better part of two decades.
And if—as the lefts tells you all day long — “representation matters” then it might be a good idea of someone on the left would start realizing that demonizing masculine traits in men makes men who have those natural traits feel undervalued and marginalized by what is supposed to be their own party.

Try naming five examples of a masculine democrat male leader in n politics and you’ll see what I mean.

Young men feel abandoned by the left. It’s not that difficult to decipher.
But instead you’d rather demonize him or infantilize him by imagining that he’s gone crazy or is ignorant. He is neither. He just doesn’t buy into hating himself for having natural male traits like ambition, competitiveness, and physical strength. He also might like the idea that one should be rewarded for his own work output capitalist model of America that the left seems to abhor right now.


Likely not impressed by republican leaders. Trump and Vance are not masculine men, Pence is weird, and Obama and Walz definitely are masculine men and strong family men so this argument falls apart just at the recent presidential level.

There is a lot of marketing towards men from the right and kids want to be counter cultural to their parents. Plus as the previous poster said, they likely haven't struggled much. If they are a good person they at least know that many on the right in politics are not speaking in a positive way. You can have conservative values and still hate the political fighting, insults, and lies. There are conservatives that still hated Rush Limbaugh and his kind.


If you think the bolded, you have no idea what masculine means.


He grew up playing football and basketball, hunted as a kid and to this day. Worked in a factory before college. Veteran. Football coach. Father of 2.

What makes someone masculine in your eyes? UFC spandex and roids?


Vance is literally a combat veteran of the Marines. Walz never deployed in any meaningful sense. As a female vet, I don't think you can say Vance is not masculine but then cite Walz's military record. My own service record is more masculine than Walz's. Walz is a liberal white woman's idea of masculine for sure, but he reads as too "pick me" to conservatives or males.


Walz reads too “pick me” for anyone other than very liberal white women.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No real man is liberal.


They can’t be. They have actively villainized masculinity for the better part of two decades.
And if—as the lefts tells you all day long — “representation matters” then it might be a good idea of someone on the left would start realizing that demonizing masculine traits in men makes men who have those natural traits feel undervalued and marginalized by what is supposed to be their own party.

Try naming five examples of a masculine democrat male leader in n politics and you’ll see what I mean.

Young men feel abandoned by the left. It’s not that difficult to decipher.
But instead you’d rather demonize him or infantilize him by imagining that he’s gone crazy or is ignorant. He is neither. He just doesn’t buy into hating himself for having natural male traits like ambition, competitiveness, and physical strength. He also might like the idea that one should be rewarded for his own work output capitalist model of America that the left seems to abhor right now.


Likely not impressed by republican leaders. Trump and Vance are not masculine men, Pence is weird, and Obama and Walz definitely are masculine men and strong family men so this argument falls apart just at the recent presidential level.

There is a lot of marketing towards men from the right and kids want to be counter cultural to their parents. Plus as the previous poster said, they likely haven't struggled much. If they are a good person they at least know that many on the right in politics are not speaking in a positive way. You can have conservative values and still hate the political fighting, insults, and lies. There are conservatives that still hated Rush Limbaugh and his kind.


If you think the bolded, you have no idea what masculine means.


Let me ask you a question. Do you think Trump is masculine?


I’m the PP who wrote that and yes, I do. Or rather, I recognize that most voters do. It is unfortunate because I despise Trump, but he is objectively funny and codes masculine to most voters. He speaks roughly, doesn’t use the baffling language of the progressive left, and makes people laugh. That’s masculine, whether you want to admit it or not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No real man is liberal.


They can’t be. They have actively villainized masculinity for the better part of two decades.
And if—as the lefts tells you all day long — “representation matters” then it might be a good idea of someone on the left would start realizing that demonizing masculine traits in men makes men who have those natural traits feel undervalued and marginalized by what is supposed to be their own party.

Try naming five examples of a masculine democrat male leader in n politics and you’ll see what I mean.

Young men feel abandoned by the left. It’s not that difficult to decipher.
But instead you’d rather demonize him or infantilize him by imagining that he’s gone crazy or is ignorant. He is neither. He just doesn’t buy into hating himself for having natural male traits like ambition, competitiveness, and physical strength. He also might like the idea that one should be rewarded for his own work output capitalist model of America that the left seems to abhor right now.


Likely not impressed by republican leaders. Trump and Vance are not masculine men, Pence is weird, and Obama and Walz definitely are masculine men and strong family men so this argument falls apart just at the recent presidential level.

There is a lot of marketing towards men from the right and kids want to be counter cultural to their parents. Plus as the previous poster said, they likely haven't struggled much. If they are a good person they at least know that many on the right in politics are not speaking in a positive way. You can have conservative values and still hate the political fighting, insults, and lies. There are conservatives that still hated Rush Limbaugh and his kind.


If you think the bolded, you have no idea what masculine means.


He grew up playing football and basketball, hunted as a kid and to this day. Worked in a factory before college. Veteran. Football coach. Father of 2.

What makes someone masculine in your eyes? UFC spandex and roids?


Vance is literally a combat veteran of the Marines. Walz never deployed in any meaningful sense. As a female vet, I don't think you can say Vance is not masculine but then cite Walz's military record. My own service record is more masculine than Walz's. Walz is a liberal white woman's idea of masculine for sure, but he reads as too "pick me" to conservatives or males.


Its not just that. He is a strong family man.


That’s ridiculous. Vance is the furthest thing from a family man. He’s a fake, and I pity his children.
Anonymous
Perhaps your son is repulsed by your lib views?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My son is 32 and just told me he voted for Trump three times. I’m embarrassed and feel like a failure. We raised him in a liberal environment and now he’s become radicalized

He’s not even your stereotypical trump voter or whatever. Good job in coastal city, just got engaged, owns a house, many friends. But he’s gone down this rabbit hole of right wing politics and it leaves me baffled


It's pretty simple this case:

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/eta/eta20211019

When you start digging into it you realize two things.

A) How widespread and embedded this practice of replacing American jobs. Numerous government agencies are involved. They're all looking the other way when Democrats are in power. They enable businesses to do hostile searches and make you jump through all kinds of hoops, when they never intend to hire you.

B) The Democrats prioritize this over every other agenda. The view it as a moral issue, discussion of such isn't even on the table.

Once a person realizes that, from there everything else in the platform just becomes empty signaling.

California biggest oil producer.
Epstein was a Democrat.
Segregation is an Urban problem.
Catholics are never going to vote for abortion.
Zuckerberg the billionaire is a Democrat.
etc.

The list goes on.

Exhibit A of swallowing the right-wing Kool Aid.


Democrats don't even give us Kool Aid.

Stop whining and get your own. No one owes you anything for just existing.


Oh yes, they do.
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