14% jump in DC Water Clean Rivers Impervious Area Charge (CRIAC)

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The head of DC water makes $375,000. The head of NYC water makes $215,000.

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Anonymous wrote:NP - I also got one of the letters raising my score from 1.0 to 3.8 with no change in my property. This is based on a 2400 sq foot house with a driveway and patio. We have 2 rain barrels and pretty much all of our rain is collected onsite by the lawn or the rain barrels so I find the whole thing a money grab.

but here is my question. We are in ward 3. Did anyone outside of Ward 3 get one of these reevaluations or was this new math only applied to part of the city? Good to hear that they are delaying the implementation, but even with a delay, I can’t see how it’s economically viable to raise bills this much across the city. If that were the case I’d expect to see a Wash Post article about it by now. Or did DC water think they’d get away with it by only screwing the wealthier zip codes.

Ward 3 does not have representation on the City Council. The former seat is now an At Large seat.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

It's "could" not "can."

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

When a politician doesn't want to deal with a problem, they always claim they are powerless to deal with it. But clearly this is not an independent agency.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

The DC government preys on the fact that everyone is extremely liberal and assumes that every dollar the government spends is precious and only troglodytes complain about their taxes. It's how we get sky high tax rates and an astoundingly wasteful government.

DC Water is independent of the DC government.

Do you have anything to contribute other than partisan drivel?

If you believe DC water is independent of the DC government, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

Agreed. DC Water is an organ of the DC Democrat party. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves.

Oh, please.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

By the same logic, DCW is part of the government of Fairfax County.

There is no argument that the mayor and council could and should do more to rein in what is clearly an out-of-control agency.

But it’s also silly to imply that doing so is not manifestly more complex than sorting out actual agencies of the DC government such as DCPS and DPW.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

By the same logic, DCW is part of the government of Fairfax County.

There is no argument that the mayor and council could and should do more to rein in what is clearly an out-of-control agency.

But it’s also silly to imply that doing so is not manifestly more complex than sorting out actual agencies of the DC government such as DCPS and DPW.

Oh stop. The idea that the municipal water plant is somehow beyond the power of the mayor and the city council is absurd. They could fix this if they wanted to. They choose not to.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

By the same logic, DCW is part of the government of Fairfax County.

There is no argument that the mayor and council could and should do more to rein in what is clearly an out-of-control agency.

But it’s also silly to imply that doing so is not manifestly more complex than sorting out actual agencies of the DC government such as DCPS and DPW.

Oh stop. The idea that the municipal water plant is somehow beyond the power of the mayor and the city council is absurd. They could fix this if they wanted to. They choose not to.

Oh how I wish the world was as simple as your understanding of it.

Look up the terms of the DC Water board, the requirements for removing them, the requirements for the Board removing the CEO, union protections for DC Water staff etc. etc. etc..

DC Water used to be an agency of the DC government. The federal government established it as an independent agency in 1996. The federal government, for better or worse, would likely take an interest were that independence compromised.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

Congress says otherwise: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-110publ273/pdf/PLAW-110publ273.pdf

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Just start calling it DEI Water and get trump world’s attention. All sorts of things might be uncovered…

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

By the same logic, DCW is part of the government of Fairfax County.

There is no argument that the mayor and council could and should do more to rein in what is clearly an out-of-control agency.

But it’s also silly to imply that doing so is not manifestly more complex than sorting out actual agencies of the DC government such as DCPS and DPW.

Oh stop. The idea that the municipal water plant is somehow beyond the power of the mayor and the city council is absurd. They could fix this if they wanted to. They choose not to.

Oh how I wish the world was as simple as your understanding of it.

Look up the terms of the DC Water board, the requirements for removing them, the requirements for the Board removing the CEO, union protections for DC Water staff etc. etc. etc..

DC Water used to be an agency of the DC government. The federal government established it as an independent agency in 1996. The federal government, for better or worse, would likely take an interest were that independence compromised.

City council members have been known to complain to the CEO of DC Water on behalf of their constituents.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

By the same logic, DCW is part of the government of Fairfax County.

There is no argument that the mayor and council could and should do more to rein in what is clearly an out-of-control agency.

But it’s also silly to imply that doing so is not manifestly more complex than sorting out actual agencies of the DC government such as DCPS and DPW.

Oh stop. The idea that the municipal water plant is somehow beyond the power of the mayor and the city council is absurd. They could fix this if they wanted to. They choose not to.

Oh how I wish the world was as simple as your understanding of it.

Look up the terms of the DC Water board, the requirements for removing them, the requirements for the Board removing the CEO, union protections for DC Water staff etc. etc. etc..

DC Water used to be an agency of the DC government. The federal government established it as an independent agency in 1996. The federal government, for better or worse, would likely take an interest were that independence compromised.

Er, the city council held an oversight hearing in February on DC Water, including on its rate increases. The head of DC water, David L. Gadis, was there.

https://video.oct.dc.gov/VOD/DCC/2025_02/02_20_25_Transpo.html

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

By the same logic, DCW is part of the government of Fairfax County.

There is no argument that the mayor and council could and should do more to rein in what is clearly an out-of-control agency.

But it’s also silly to imply that doing so is not manifestly more complex than sorting out actual agencies of the DC government such as DCPS and DPW.

Oh stop. The idea that the municipal water plant is somehow beyond the power of the mayor and the city council is absurd. They could fix this if they wanted to. They choose not to.

Oh how I wish the world was as simple as your understanding of it.

Look up the terms of the DC Water board, the requirements for removing them, the requirements for the Board removing the CEO, union protections for DC Water staff etc. etc. etc..

DC Water used to be an agency of the DC government. The federal government established it as an independent agency in 1996. The federal government, for better or worse, would likely take an interest were that independence compromised.

City council members have been known to complain to the CEO of DC Water on behalf of their constituents.

Yes. My council member complained to the CEO on my behalf. The CEO told the council member he would solve it and then him and his staff ignored every single piece of correspondence I sent trying to get the issue resolved.

DC Water is about as accountable to DC residents and their elected representatives as MWAA. Your council member won’t be much help either in doing something about the speed traps the MWAA PD set up along the Dulles Toll Road.

I absolutely want something done about DC Water. But trying to get the mayor or the council on the case is not going to move the needle one iota.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

By the same logic, DCW is part of the government of Fairfax County.

There is no argument that the mayor and council could and should do more to rein in what is clearly an out-of-control agency.

But it’s also silly to imply that doing so is not manifestly more complex than sorting out actual agencies of the DC government such as DCPS and DPW.

Oh stop. The idea that the municipal water plant is somehow beyond the power of the mayor and the city council is absurd. They could fix this if they wanted to. They choose not to.

Oh how I wish the world was as simple as your understanding of it.

Look up the terms of the DC Water board, the requirements for removing them, the requirements for the Board removing the CEO, union protections for DC Water staff etc. etc. etc..

DC Water used to be an agency of the DC government. The federal government established it as an independent agency in 1996. The federal government, for better or worse, would likely take an interest were that independence compromised.

City council members have been known to complain to the CEO of DC Water on behalf of their constituents.

Yes. My council member complained to the CEO on my behalf. The CEO told the council member he would solve it and then him and his staff ignored every single piece of correspondence I sent trying to get the issue resolved.

DC Water is about as accountable to DC residents and their elected representatives as MWAA. Your council member won’t be much help either in doing something about the speed traps the MWAA PD set up along the Dulles Toll Road.

I absolutely want something done about DC Water. But trying to get the mayor or the council on the case is not going to move the needle one iota.

You might have noticed earlier in the year that these government authorities usually believe they are independent nations with no responsibility to anyone but themselves. USAID found out they weren't.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see Democrats in charge everywhere in DC. How do we extract more money from the masses in a way that will not arouse too much angst? Increase costs of basic utilities they can’t live without such as water and electricity.

You get the government and quasi government services you choose via elections.

I’m sorry, but this is just ignorant. DC Water is an independent agency with an appointed board that includes reps of neighboring counties. Trying to blame everything on a political party is kinda pathetic.

There is no such thing as an independent agency of the DC government. They exist in the same way that unicorns exist.

It’s not part of the DC government, period. Do some research, please.

1. The mayor appoints most of its board members who decide rates
2. Those appointments must be approved by the DC city council
3. The city council can pass laws that change how DC water operates
4. The city council can hold oversight hearings examining how DC water operates
5. The city council can demand information from DC water
6. DC water's budget is included in the city's budget

By the same logic, DCW is part of the government of Fairfax County.

There is no argument that the mayor and council could and should do more to rein in what is clearly an out-of-control agency.

But it’s also silly to imply that doing so is not manifestly more complex than sorting out actual agencies of the DC government such as DCPS and DPW.

Oh stop. The idea that the municipal water plant is somehow beyond the power of the mayor and the city council is absurd. They could fix this if they wanted to. They choose not to.

Oh how I wish the world was as simple as your understanding of it.

Look up the terms of the DC Water board, the requirements for removing them, the requirements for the Board removing the CEO, union protections for DC Water staff etc. etc. etc..

DC Water used to be an agency of the DC government. The federal government established it as an independent agency in 1996. The federal government, for better or worse, would likely take an interest were that independence compromised.

City council members have been known to complain to the CEO of DC Water on behalf of their constituents.

Yes. My council member complained to the CEO on my behalf. The CEO told the council member he would solve it and then him and his staff ignored every single piece of correspondence I sent trying to get the issue resolved.

DC Water is about as accountable to DC residents and their elected representatives as MWAA. Your council member won’t be much help either in doing something about the speed traps the MWAA PD set up along the Dulles Toll Road.

I absolutely want something done about DC Water. But trying to get the mayor or the council on the case is not going to move the needle one iota.

Sounds like you have a pretty ineffectual city council member. Many of DC's elected leaders are so bad at their jobs. They make backbenchers in Congress look like superstars.