Lab diamonds and engagement ring sizes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be fair, often buyers of lab grown diamonds simply don't know better. They don't know what to look for or where to look. I know savvy jewelry collectors who spend their time collecting antique and vintage pieces where both the quality and aesthetic design stand out. Lang Antiques (www.langantiques.com) is a good resource for this, many beautiful and unique pieces.

lol diamonds are the most common gemstone. “Antique” diamonds have no value. Look at the whole sales market price.

The only gemstones that can not be grown in commercial quantities are:

Tanzanite: Cannot be reliably grown at scale due to its complex structure.
Moonstone: Lab-grown versions haven't successfully replicated the natural adularescence (sheen).
Lapis Lazuli: A composite stone, making lab synthesis difficult.
Malachite: Difficult due to its banded structure.
Pearls: Can be cultured (implanted), but not grown from scratch in a lab like minerals.
Amber: Organic material, not a mineral, so not lab-grown.
Nephrite/Jade: Very difficult to replicate.
Zircon: Rarely seen in synthetic form.

Rubies, emeralds, diamonds of all colors are grown to order. China and India grown gemstones end up being sold as natural stones because there is so much money to be made. A $3,000 natural 1 carat diamond can be replaced with an $1,000 lab grown. There is no way to tell the difference. All the paper can be faked for a price. They are growing a lot more jewelry size diamond each year vs what is actually in the lab grown supply chain. Where do you think all those stones go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be fair, often buyers of lab grown diamonds simply don't know better. They don't know what to look for or where to look. I know savvy jewelry collectors who spend their time collecting antique and vintage pieces where both the quality and aesthetic design stand out. Lang Antiques (www.langantiques.com) is a good resource for this, many beautiful and unique pieces.

lol diamonds are the most common gemstone. “Antique” diamonds have no value. Look at the whole sales market price.

The only gemstones that can not be grown in commercial quantities are:

Tanzanite: Cannot be reliably grown at scale due to its complex structure.
Moonstone: Lab-grown versions haven't successfully replicated the natural adularescence (sheen).
Lapis Lazuli: A composite stone, making lab synthesis difficult.
Malachite: Difficult due to its banded structure.
Pearls: Can be cultured (implanted), but not grown from scratch in a lab like minerals.
Amber: Organic material, not a mineral, so not lab-grown.
Nephrite/Jade: Very difficult to replicate.
Zircon: Rarely seen in synthetic form.

Rubies, emeralds, diamonds of all colors are grown to order. China and India grown gemstones end up being sold as natural stones because there is so much money to be made. A $3,000 natural 1 carat diamond can be replaced with an $1,000 lab grown. There is no way to tell the difference. All the paper can be faked for a price. They are growing a lot more jewelry size diamond each year vs what is actually in the lab grown supply chain. Where do you think all those stones go?

You’re going to break a lot of brains with this

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Right now giant (lab) diamonds are the trend but the cost for lab is dropping fast. I don’t believe for a second that when a 3 carat diamond costs $50 this current trend will still keep going. People will switch to something that signals wealth again. Maybe a return to colored gemstones.

Like PP said, there’s lab created colored gemstones everywhere already. I’m noticing thicker bands but gold isn’t THAT much of a wealth signifier - eg maybe it’s $5K more for a fat gold band but a 5 carat real diamond would be $200K+. Just isn’t the same.

You can easily tell a lab emerald from a natural. It’s not like there is no way to signal wealth with natural non-diamond gemstones.

This is wrong. Lab grown emeralds have inclusions. I think you’re thinking of the “costume” emeralds from the 2000s and such that do look perfect because they’re fake.

https://www.brilliantearth.com/gemstones/emerald/

Embarrassing for you that you didn't realize if you toggle to "lab" they do not have natural-looking inclusions. Brilliant Earth just also sells mined. Loud and wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone flaunting a big (2+) carat lab grown diamond is low class. Simple as.

how would you even know? do you walk around with a loupe?

There is no way to tell a lab grown vs mined diamond if there is no marker mark.

Well, no. That is not true. Its inclusions do have "tells." You can't tell with your naked eye, but they are distinguishable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone flaunting a big (2+) carat lab grown diamond is low class. Simple as.

how would you even know? do you walk around with a loupe?

There is no way to tell a lab grown vs mined diamond if there is no marker mark.

Well, no. That is not true. Its inclusions do have "tells." You can't tell with your naked eye, but they are distinguishable.

Please tell us how you differentiate the two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone flaunting a big (2+) carat lab grown diamond is low class. Simple as.

how would you even know? do you walk around with a loupe?

There is no way to tell a lab grown vs mined diamond if there is no marker mark.

Well, no. That is not true. Its inclusions do have "tells." You can't tell with your naked eye, but they are distinguishable.

Please tell us how you differentiate the two.

Fluorescence and inclusion type.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing says old money like a plain gold band.

No one cares about being old money. You don't get a reward because you look like you've never seen sunscreen or moisturizer in your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These threads always turn into the same thing. Older women who pretend they aren’t material but then bleat about lab grown diamonds because they think their old ring is now devalued.

100%. They are mad that poors can now afford something that looks like theirs.

I actually used to think lab grown diamonds were inferior but the more these women b itch and moan about "Omg, some middle class person has a ring bigger than mine now" makes me want a lab diamond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right now giant (lab) diamonds are the trend but the cost for lab is dropping fast. I don’t believe for a second that when a 3 carat diamond costs $50 this current trend will still keep going. People will switch to something that signals wealth again. Maybe a return to colored gemstones.

Like PP said, there’s lab created colored gemstones everywhere already. I’m noticing thicker bands but gold isn’t THAT much of a wealth signifier - eg maybe it’s $5K more for a fat gold band but a 5 carat real diamond would be $200K+. Just isn’t the same.

You can easily tell a lab emerald from a natural. It’s not like there is no way to signal wealth with natural non-diamond gemstones.

This is wrong. Lab grown emeralds have inclusions. I think you’re thinking of the “costume” emeralds from the 2000s and such that do look perfect because they’re fake.

https://www.brilliantearth.com/gemstones/emerald/

Embarrassing for you that you didn't realize if you toggle to "lab" they do not have natural-looking inclusions. Brilliant Earth just also sells mined. Loud and wrong.

You might need glasses or to zoom in more. Posting link to pic below.

https://www.brilliantearth.com/11x8mm-Lab-Grown-Emerald-EMDGLC11X8EC3/?process=cyoring&sid= This one the clarity says “Slightly Included”, which you can see

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone flaunting a big (2+) carat lab grown diamond is low class. Simple as.

how would you even know? do you walk around with a loupe?

There is no way to tell a lab grown vs mined diamond if there is no marker mark.

Well, no. That is not true. Its inclusions do have "tells." You can't tell with your naked eye, but they are distinguishable.

Please tell us how you differentiate the two.

Fluorescence and inclusion type.

… I’m speechless at the ignorance in this thread. I’m guessing it’s a generational divide like another PP kinda referenced above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone flaunting a big (2+) carat lab grown diamond is low class. Simple as.

how would you even know? do you walk around with a loupe?

There is no way to tell a lab grown vs mined diamond if there is no marker mark.

Well, no. That is not true. Its inclusions do have "tells." You can't tell with your naked eye, but they are distinguishable.

Please tell us how you differentiate the two.

Fluorescence and inclusion type.

… I’m speechless at the ignorance in this thread. I’m guessing it’s a generational divide like another PP kinda referenced above.

Sorry, did you not know lab diamonds are detectable by fluorescence and inclusion type (not by the naked eye) or what exactly is your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right now giant (lab) diamonds are the trend but the cost for lab is dropping fast. I don’t believe for a second that when a 3 carat diamond costs $50 this current trend will still keep going. People will switch to something that signals wealth again. Maybe a return to colored gemstones.

Like PP said, there’s lab created colored gemstones everywhere already. I’m noticing thicker bands but gold isn’t THAT much of a wealth signifier - eg maybe it’s $5K more for a fat gold band but a 5 carat real diamond would be $200K+. Just isn’t the same.

You can easily tell a lab emerald from a natural. It’s not like there is no way to signal wealth with natural non-diamond gemstones.

This is wrong. Lab grown emeralds have inclusions. I think you’re thinking of the “costume” emeralds from the 2000s and such that do look perfect because they’re fake.

https://www.brilliantearth.com/gemstones/emerald/

Embarrassing for you that you didn't realize if you toggle to "lab" they do not have natural-looking inclusions. Brilliant Earth just also sells mined. Loud and wrong.

You might need glasses or to zoom in more. Posting link to pic below.

https://www.brilliantearth.com/11x8mm-Lab-Grown-Emerald-EMDGLC11X8EC3/?process=cyoring&sid= This one the clarity says “Slightly Included”, which you can see

that does not remotely look like a natural emerald. It looks like the 00s costume jewelry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone flaunting a big (2+) carat lab grown diamond is low class. Simple as.

how would you even know? do you walk around with a loupe?

There is no way to tell a lab grown vs mined diamond if there is no marker mark.

Well, no. That is not true. Its inclusions do have "tells." You can't tell with your naked eye, but they are distinguishable.

Please tell us how you differentiate the two.

Fluorescence and inclusion type.

… I’m speechless at the ignorance in this thread. I’m guessing it’s a generational divide like another PP kinda referenced above.

Sorry, did you not know lab diamonds are detectable by fluorescence and inclusion type (not by the naked eye) or what exactly is your point?

You again! The whole “sorry” and “or what exactly is your point” snark combo is pretty distinctive. Might want to switch it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These threads always turn into the same thing. Older women who pretend they aren’t material but then bleat about lab grown diamonds because they think their old ring is now devalued.

100%. They are mad that poors can now afford something that looks like theirs.

I actually used to think lab grown diamonds were inferior but the more these women b itch and moan about "Omg, some middle class person has a ring bigger than mine now" makes me want a lab diamond.

Yup. People are salty they paid a lot of money for something a ton of people can get now. A bunch of young people are buying 2ct rings for 2k and it feels unfair

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Buy the diamond you like. Don’t be a sheep following trends. If more people can now afford big rocks then good for them. It’s silly to feel superior because you paid more for a “mined” diamond. They’re the same.

This^. If it looks good, doesn't matter its a a blood diamond or an ethically synthesized one, costs absurd amount of money or is affordable to mortals.