MLS Next Announcement

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Anonymous wrote:U12 Q4 kid. Between 2nd and 3rd team. love our club which is MLS, not their fault, but we will now look to move to ECNL. My guess is MLS is gonna have to keep figuring things out and it's not worth potentially wasting a year or two while they do it.


Every Q4 kid will make an attempt to move to an ECNL National team. 1st team is ALWAYS the clubs priority

Every kid that wants to play pro will do MLSN1 or MLSN2 and try to get noticed by a MLS1 team. ECNL players will start getting ignored soon.


How could MLSN2 kid born Aug-Dec get noticed by an MLSN1 team when the MLSN1 team has older bigger kids born Jan-July. Not much of a chance at all
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Anonymous wrote:Q4 parent from earlier post. 1. Not worried about pro, but nowhere currently for him to fit well in the MLS system. 2. Not many Q4s, so yes, I agree many will depart, but, there arent many to begin with. At least not on the higher teams.

Seems to me that they're the same thing.
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Anonymous wrote:Q4 parent from earlier post. 1. Not worried about pro, but nowhere currently for him to fit well in the MLS system. 2. Not many Q4s, so yes, I agree many will depart, but, there arent many to begin with. At least not on the higher teams.


That’s fact. Not many Q4 kids in the higher end team because they get overlooked or discouraged. There is even a study about it, most pro players are not born Q3 or Q4
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Anonymous wrote:So how would it work when the MLS next team is playing in a tournament? For example, mls next team is birth year U14 playing in the Columbia cup. They play against the u14s that are an MLS next to team at a different club that have to play school year. So it’s feasible there would be a full year of difference between the kids if you had one team have mainly older kids and the other team have mainly younger kids in their school year. What would you do in that case? That’s not fair.


Mlsn1 teams won’t play outside tournaments or if they did a u15 BY team would be playing up against a u15 SY team.


Since both leagues are always trying to top each other MLSN1 will have to move to school year at some point, otherwise SY teams will have the advantage at every tournament.


THEY. DON'T. CARE. ABOUT. TOURNAMENT. RESULTS.

They care about developing 1-2 sellable players. At a certain point, you parents will understand development.


MLS 1 is mostly p2p clubs. They don’t care about developing 1-2 players. They also don’t care about outside tournaments but they do care about the neverending headache that this decision will be.

Mls1 p2p is not mls academies.


The BY top tier players will still be better than 2nd tier SY players

Agree, the ECNL parents are doing whatever they can to make it sound like the sky is falling but its not.

Splitting the MLSN Homegrown teams from the P2P teams is something that had to happen. MLS needed a place to park ECNL + other SY teams before they switch to BY MLS. MLS can still do things like MLS2 talent id events that get looked at by MLS1 coaches for providing the pathway to pro.


MLSN2 is officially meaningless now.
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Anonymous wrote:So how would it work when the MLS next team is playing in a tournament? For example, mls next team is birth year U14 playing in the Columbia cup. They play against the u14s that are an MLS next to team at a different club that have to play school year. So it’s feasible there would be a full year of difference between the kids if you had one team have mainly older kids and the other team have mainly younger kids in their school year. What would you do in that case? That’s not fair.


Mlsn1 teams won’t play outside tournaments or if they did a u15 BY team would be playing up against a u15 SY team.


Since both leagues are always trying to top each other MLSN1 will have to move to school year at some point, otherwise SY teams will have the advantage at every tournament.


THEY. DON'T. CARE. ABOUT. TOURNAMENT. RESULTS.

They care about developing 1-2 sellable players. At a certain point, you parents will understand development.


MLS 1 is mostly p2p clubs. They don’t care about developing 1-2 players. They also don’t care about outside tournaments but they do care about the neverending headache that this decision will be.

Mls1 p2p is not mls academies.


The BY top tier players will still be better than 2nd tier SY players

Agree, the ECNL parents are doing whatever they can to make it sound like the sky is falling but its not.

Splitting the MLSN Homegrown teams from the P2P teams is something that had to happen. MLS needed a place to park ECNL + other SY teams before they switch to BY MLS. MLS can still do things like MLS2 talent id events that get looked at by MLS1 coaches for providing the pathway to pro.


MLSN2 is officially meaningless now.



For real, no incentive for all that travel , cost and commitment. MLSN1 is already a tough sell at some p2p clubs. Yes they fill the rosters but aren’t always the best players just those with families who have time and money.
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Anonymous wrote:U12 Q4 kid. Between 2nd and 3rd team. love our club which is MLS, not their fault, but we will now look to move to ECNL. My guess is MLS is gonna have to keep figuring things out and it's not worth potentially wasting a year or two while they do it.


Every Q4 kid will make an attempt to move to an ECNL National team. 1st team is ALWAYS the clubs priority

Every kid that wants to play pro will do MLSN1 or MLSN2 and try to get noticed by a MLS1 team. ECNL players will start getting ignored soon.


How could MLSN2 kid born Aug-Dec get noticed by an MLSN1 team when the MLSN1 team has older bigger kids born Jan-July. Not much of a chance at all


MLSN1 teams WILL lose their MLSN2 players pool because chances are slim that an MLSN2 player gets a chance move to the MLSN1 team. It’s will be a mess. It’s either the MLSN1 team or nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:Q4 parent from earlier post. 1. Not worried about pro, but nowhere currently for him to fit well in the MLS system. 2. Not many Q4s, so yes, I agree many will depart, but, there arent many to begin with. At least not on the higher teams.


That’s fact. Not many Q4 kids in the higher end team because they get overlooked or discouraged. There is even a study about it, most pro players are not born Q3 or Q4

And in 5-10 years when all the ulittle teams favored those Q4's.... that will all change.
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Anonymous wrote:U12 Q4 kid. Between 2nd and 3rd team. love our club which is MLS, not their fault, but we will now look to move to ECNL. My guess is MLS is gonna have to keep figuring things out and it's not worth potentially wasting a year or two while they do it.


Every Q4 kid will make an attempt to move to an ECNL National team. 1st team is ALWAYS the clubs priority

Every kid that wants to play pro will do MLSN1 or MLSN2 and try to get noticed by a MLS1 team. ECNL players will start getting ignored soon.


How could MLSN2 kid born Aug-Dec get noticed by an MLSN1 team when the MLSN1 team has older bigger kids born Jan-July. Not much of a chance at all


MLSN1 teams WILL lose their MLSN2 players pool because chances are slim that an MLSN2 player gets a chance move to the MLSN1 team. It’s will be a mess. It’s either the MLSN1 team or nothing.


Hello 40 player rosters.
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Anonymous wrote:Q4 parent from earlier post. 1. Not worried about pro, but nowhere currently for him to fit well in the MLS system. 2. Not many Q4s, so yes, I agree many will depart, but, there arent many to begin with. At least not on the higher teams.


That’s fact. Not many Q4 kids in the higher end team because they get overlooked or discouraged. There is even a study about it, most pro players are not born Q3 or Q4

And in 5-10 years when all the ulittle teams favored those Q4's.... that will all change.


In 5-10 years Q4 kids will be done p2p soccer. They care about now, not 5-10 years
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Anonymous wrote:So how would it work when the MLS next team is playing in a tournament? For example, mls next team is birth year U14 playing in the Columbia cup. They play against the u14s that are an MLS next to team at a different club that have to play school year. So it’s feasible there would be a full year of difference between the kids if you had one team have mainly older kids and the other team have mainly younger kids in their school year. What would you do in that case? That’s not fair.


Mlsn1 teams won’t play outside tournaments or if they did a u15 BY team would be playing up against a u15 SY team.


Since both leagues are always trying to top each other MLSN1 will have to move to school year at some point, otherwise SY teams will have the advantage at every tournament.


THEY. DON'T. CARE. ABOUT. TOURNAMENT. RESULTS.

They care about developing 1-2 sellable players. At a certain point, you parents will understand development.


MLS 1 is mostly p2p clubs. They don’t care about developing 1-2 players. They also don’t care about outside tournaments but they do care about the neverending headache that this decision will be.

Mls1 p2p is not mls academies.


The BY top tier players will still be better than 2nd tier SY players

Agree, the ECNL parents are doing whatever they can to make it sound like the sky is falling but its not.

Splitting the MLSN Homegrown teams from the P2P teams is something that had to happen. MLS needed a place to park ECNL + other SY teams before they switch to BY MLS. MLS can still do things like MLS2 talent id events that get looked at by MLS1 coaches for providing the pathway to pro.
Homegrown is almost all P2P.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:U12 Q4 kid. Between 2nd and 3rd team. love our club which is MLS, not their fault, but we will now look to move to ECNL. My guess is MLS is gonna have to keep figuring things out and it's not worth potentially wasting a year or two while they do it.


Every Q4 kid will make an attempt to move to an ECNL National team. 1st team is ALWAYS the clubs priority

Every kid that wants to play pro will do MLSN1 or MLSN2 and try to get noticed by a MLS1 team. ECNL players will start getting ignored soon.


How could MLSN2 kid born Aug-Dec get noticed by an MLSN1 team when the MLSN1 team has older bigger kids born Jan-July. Not much of a chance at all


That’s how it works now and not many of them do. We have only 4 8th graders on our MLS 1 U15 team (18 are rostered).
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Anonymous wrote:U12 Q4 kid. Between 2nd and 3rd team. love our club which is MLS, not their fault, but we will now look to move to ECNL. My guess is MLS is gonna have to keep figuring things out and it's not worth potentially wasting a year or two while they do it.


Every Q4 kid will make an attempt to move to an ECNL National team. 1st team is ALWAYS the clubs priority

Every kid that wants to play pro will do MLSN1 or MLSN2 and try to get noticed by a MLS1 team. ECNL players will start getting ignored soon.


How could MLSN2 kid born Aug-Dec get noticed by an MLSN1 team when the MLSN1 team has older bigger kids born Jan-July. Not much of a chance at all


That’s how it works now and not many of them do. We have only 4 8th graders on our MLS 1 U15 team (18 are rostered).


That’s why the aug-dec kids will move to SY ECNL clubs, because it will just as hard , as it is now, to make 1st team in MLSN
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There’s no longer a pathway for mlsn2 to make it to mlsn1. No one is sticking around for a second tier mlsn2. If you’re a Q4 player it will be nearly impossible to move to the mlsn1 team, where the older players play, some which are close to a year older. What happens when there is no pathway for the mlsn2 players to move to the mlsn1 team? they will leave because the end goal for ALL the money you’re throwing at them is to at some point possibly play in the first team mlsn1.
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Anonymous wrote:U12 Q4 kid. Between 2nd and 3rd team. love our club which is MLS, not their fault, but we will now look to move to ECNL. My guess is MLS is gonna have to keep figuring things out and it's not worth potentially wasting a year or two while they do it.


Every Q4 kid will make an attempt to move to an ECNL National team. 1st team is ALWAYS the clubs priority

Every kid that wants to play pro will do MLSN1 or MLSN2 and try to get noticed by a MLS1 team. ECNL players will start getting ignored soon.


How could MLSN2 kid born Aug-Dec get noticed by an MLSN1 team when the MLSN1 team has older bigger kids born Jan-July. Not much of a chance at all


That’s how it works now and not many of them do. We have only 4 8th graders on our MLS 1 U15 team (18 are rostered).


That’s why the aug-dec kids will move to SY ECNL clubs, because it will just as hard , as it is now, to make 1st team in MLSN


It will be harder because they will come through a SY feeder system and have to skip an age group to play on a BY team. Not many will be able to do that. It would have been better for these kids if everything stayed BY rather than this.
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Anonymous wrote:U12 Q4 kid. Between 2nd and 3rd team. love our club which is MLS, not their fault, but we will now look to move to ECNL. My guess is MLS is gonna have to keep figuring things out and it's not worth potentially wasting a year or two while they do it.


Every Q4 kid will make an attempt to move to an ECNL National team. 1st team is ALWAYS the clubs priority

Every kid that wants to play pro will do MLSN1 or MLSN2 and try to get noticed by a MLS1 team. ECNL players will start getting ignored soon.


How could MLSN2 kid born Aug-Dec get noticed by an MLSN1 team when the MLSN1 team has older bigger kids born Jan-July. Not much of a chance at all


That’s how it works now and not many of them do. We have only 4 8th graders on our MLS 1 U15 team (18 are rostered).


That’s why the aug-dec kids will move to SY ECNL clubs, because it will just as hard , as it is now, to make 1st team in MLSN


It will be harder because they will come through a SY feeder system and have to skip an age group to play on a BY team. Not many will be able to do that. It would have been better for these kids if everything stayed BY rather than this.


It will be harder, but why would an aug-dec player want to make it harder for himself and move to a MLSN league where it’s harder to make the first team when they can just stay or go to an ECNL league and make it easier to make 1st team ECNL National?
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