Why don't more kids want Wesleyan?

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know why Wesleyan's most recent CDS is for 2022–2023? They seem to be a year behind in comparison to most other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know why Wesleyan's most recent CDS is for 2022–2023? They seem to be a year behind in comparison to most other schools.

Um, 24-25 is available:

https://wesleyan0.sharepoint.com/sites/IRDataandReports/Shared%20Documents/Forms/AllItems.aspx?id=%2Fsites%2FIRDataandReports%2FShared%20Documents%2FCommon%20Data%20Set&p=true&ga=1

[Anonymous]

I think they need more PR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know why Wesleyan's most recent CDS is for 2022–2023? They seem to be a year behind in comparison to most other schools.

My mistake, Wesleyan provides a CDS for 2023-2024. However, this CDS is one year behind the most recent CDS of most other schools (i.e., it shows statistical information for the class entering in the fall of 2023).

[Anonymous]

My kid wouldn't get out of car...town terrible, in depressed area, campus looked disjointed, wasn't impressed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wesleyan accepts nearly 3000 people (That's the size of the school!) just to get anywhere near 700 students. That's really poor yield.

Show me that you know nothing about college yields without saying that you know nothing about college yields.

You didn’t say anything, so I’m gonna continue on. A 25% yield is trash. Just because you like the school doesn’t make it any less trash.

Well, if this is the hill you’re going to die on, at least understand the data. Wes does not consider demonstrated interest like many of its peers. It also does not offer spring admissions to manage admission rate and yield numbers. It also, to my knowledge, does not tender exploding offers from the waitlist. Wes takes a bunch of kids ED and then doesn’t play games in RD. It just accepts enough kids to fill out the class. Isn’t that what everyone says they want? A real shot in RD? Wes doesn’t need to be defended, though. It’s doing just fine. People who want to discount it for silly reasons really just limit themselves

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know why Wesleyan's most recent CDS is for 2022–2023? They seem to be a year behind in comparison to most other schools.

My mistake, Wesleyan provides a CDS for 2023-2024. However, this CDS is one year behind the most recent CDS of most other schools (i.e., it shows statistical information for the class entering in the fall of 2023).

Nope, you're mistaken again. If you go to the Wesleyan CDS site, it provides the links to the 2001-02 CDS through the 2024-25 CDS, which is linked here: https://wesleyan0.sharepoint.com/:/r/sites/IRDataandReports/_layouts/15/Doc.aspx?sourcedoc=%7BE7A1749C-C3A2-4927-A125-4173E7C637AE%7D&file=CDS_2024-2025.xlsx&action=default&mobileredirect=true

[Anonymous]

Not sure why the link gets garbled, here's the link to the list of the past 25 years of Wesleyan CDS:
https://wesleyan0.sharepoint.com/sites/IRDataandReports/Shared%20Documents/Forms/AllItems.aspx?id=%2Fsites%2FIRDataandReports%2FShared%20Documents%2FCommon%20Data%20Set&p=true&ga=1

Found it via Google.

[Anonymous]

I wish people had some manners around here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wesleyan accepts nearly 3000 people (That's the size of the school!) just to get anywhere near 700 students. That's really poor yield.

Show me that you know nothing about college yields without saying that you know nothing about college yields.

You didn’t say anything, so I’m gonna continue on. A 25% yield is trash. Just because you like the school doesn’t make it any less trash.

Well, if this is the hill you’re going to die on, at least understand the data. Wes does not consider demonstrated interest like many of its peers. It also does not offer spring admissions to manage admission rate and yield numbers. It also, to my knowledge, does not tender exploding offers from the waitlist. Wes takes a bunch of kids ED and then doesn’t play games in RD. It just accepts enough kids to fill out the class. Isn’t that what everyone says they want? A real shot in RD? Wes doesn’t need to be defended, though. It’s doing just fine. People who want to discount it for silly reasons really just limit themselves

Almost none of the top liberal arts colleges consider demonstrated interest. The process of admission you described is most lacs-taking 1/2 the class ED and then some in RD. The point stands is that the yield is poor, so Wesleyan isn’t convincing the families it’s letting in RD-every school wants to improve that. We don’t need to agree on Wesleyan as an institution, but you should recognize that a low yield isn’t a great thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wesleyan accepts nearly 3000 people (That's the size of the school!) just to get anywhere near 700 students. That's really poor yield.

Show me that you know nothing about college yields without saying that you know nothing about college yields.

You didn’t say anything, so I’m gonna continue on. A 25% yield is trash. Just because you like the school doesn’t make it any less trash.

Your ongoing blithering of incorrect information just highlights your stupidity. You want to see trash just look in a mirror.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid wouldn't get out of car...town terrible, in depressed area, campus looked disjointed, wasn't impressed.

Fiction….if it isn’t fiction you got bigger problems dealing with a maladjusted child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wesleyan accepts nearly 3000 people (That's the size of the school!) just to get anywhere near 700 students. That's really poor yield.

Show me that you know nothing about college yields without saying that you know nothing about college yields.

You didn’t say anything, so I’m gonna continue on. A 25% yield is trash. Just because you like the school doesn’t make it any less trash.

Well, if this is the hill you’re going to die on, at least understand the data. Wes does not consider demonstrated interest like many of its peers. It also does not offer spring admissions to manage admission rate and yield numbers. It also, to my knowledge, does not tender exploding offers from the waitlist. Wes takes a bunch of kids ED and then doesn’t play games in RD. It just accepts enough kids to fill out the class. Isn’t that what everyone says they want? A real shot in RD? Wes doesn’t need to be defended, though. It’s doing just fine. People who want to discount it for silly reasons really just limit themselves

Almost none of the top liberal arts colleges consider demonstrated interest. The process of admission you described is most lacs-taking 1/2 the class ED and then some in RD. The point stands is that the yield is poor, so Wesleyan isn’t convincing the families it’s letting in RD-every school wants to improve that. We don’t need to agree on Wesleyan as an institution, but you should recognize that a low yield isn’t a great thing.

Well what you are saying is not really true. If you consider Wes to be a top SLAC, and I’m not sure that you do, then several notable peers (Hamilton, Middlebury for example) employ the tactics I described to manage their yield numbers. If you’re saying Williams has a much better yield than Wes, then sure. Pretty sick burn. My point is the school could absolutely play games to make the yield number better and it doesn’t and I think that’s admirable.

[Anonymous]

I hear that many kids like Wesleyan - we know several current students from our non-DMV area who do.

However, it was the only SLAC out of the many our DD visited that she took off her list immediately following the visit (toured, spent the night, and talked to current students she knows). There were apparently two reasons for this 1) normalization of weed use all the time rather as opposed to mainly on weekends 2) didn't like the town - found it to have a depressing feel as a PP mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Kids have changed so much over the years.
I went to Wes, and never thought much at all about the physical plant or the town itself.

We didn’t spend much time at all in Middletown proper anyway - maybe once a month we’d go to get a bagel or Thai food. Honestly, we had a ton of school work and there was a lot going on on-campus.

I did consider a few things in choosing a college. First, I was afraid of NYC (it was wilder back in the 90s!). I also cared how far a college was from from home because I wanted to make sure that I could get back and forth by car, but it wasn’t so close that my parents could just drop in. Also, I was concerned about things like required classes (I really didn’t want a foreign language requirement!), if there were classes that seemed interesting, and flexibility in when I declared a major.

I played a sport one year and do remember going to an away game at Williams and thinking it was bucolic and gorgeous, but then my 19 year old self was like ‘whatever.’

It intrigues me that kids these days are evaluating the town and facilities with such a critical eye. Especially because - if the workload at Wes is similar to what it used to be - kids are going to spend a whole lot more time in the library than off-campus.