Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield will almost definitely either go to Western or South Lakes. I don't see them staying at Oakton one bit.

They will not pull Fox Mill from South Lakes and send Crossfield to South Lakes. That makes no sense at all. Fox Mill is much closer and already goes there.

And, Meren is the Hunter Mill District rep. Fox Mill is in Hunter Mill.
Dixit is the Sully District rep. Franklin Farm (Crossfield membership) is in Sully. The western high school is in Sully.

If Crossfield is not at Oakton, it will be at KAA.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't be so sure of that...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just remember those of you whose kids play cya sports with Westfield and Chantilly kids. They may not be the ones that move to the new school.

This is what I don't get about the Oakton mom's sports arguments - younger kids play on CYA. All these kids are talking about how excited they are that they'll be in middle school together at Carson. Then Oakton moms are going to tear them apart where only Crossfield kids go to Oakton. It's a terrible idea and I'm so mad at the parents of teens for being so selfish and short sighted.

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Anonymous wrote:Several people have suggested this. To be clear, here is one more +.

Option A--plus all of Floris makes the most sense. It eliminates split feeder at Floris and makes the most sense geographically. It gets Franklin Farm off the bus to Oakton.

Options C and D are awful No way should they have Discovery Square staying at Westfield:
1. It is one of the two closest neighborhoods to the Western High School
2. It would be the only neighborhood north of 50 going to Westfield--which isolates the students from the rest of their school community.

Option B will take way too many kids out of South Lakes.

Option A + Floris makes sense for people on this board and a lot of people predicted that would be a proposal.

But it turns out that was not even one of the four options. People on this board need to start thinking like the board members.

Someone wondered why they keep grouping a portion of Floris with Fox Mill. But if my understanding is correct, that part of Floris is in the Hunter Mill district along with Fox Mill.

People on this board also appear to assume SLHS shouldn’t lose Fox Mill. But it’s very hard to imagine SLHS parents that are in Reston and not part of this boundary change would actively ask Meren to let Fox Mill stay in SLHS.

This boundary adjustment is very different from the previous one where the SLHS PTA took such an active role. I am not even sure if the Reston parents that are not part of the boundary changes are invited to the community meetings in November.

Meren will want to keep Fox Mill. Fox Mill is closer than the Floris kids that go there. Some of Fox Mill is just as close to South Lakes as Carson.

Some people keep saying that but I haven’t seen any concrete evidence to support that claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield will almost definitely either go to Western or South Lakes. I don't see them staying at Oakton one bit.

They will never send Crossfield kids to SLHS. Like they will never send Great Falls kids to Herndon.

I don’t see it happening and this feels more like fearmongering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield will almost definitely either go to Western or South Lakes. I don't see them staying at Oakton one bit.

They will never send Crossfield kids to SLHS. Like they will never send Great Falls kids to Herndon.

I don’t see it happening and this feels more like fearmongering.

It’s not going to happen now, but there may not be a choice in a few years if Fox Mill goes to Western HS thus creating capacity at SLHS. Construction is going to push Oakton over capacity at some point. No way Crossfield will get to stay once that happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield will almost definitely either go to Western or South Lakes. I don't see them staying at Oakton one bit.

They will never send Crossfield kids to SLHS. Like they will never send Great Falls kids to Herndon.

I don’t see it happening and this feels more like fearmongering.

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Anonymous wrote:Several people have suggested this. To be clear, here is one more +.

Option A--plus all of Floris makes the most sense. It eliminates split feeder at Floris and makes the most sense geographically. It gets Franklin Farm off the bus to Oakton.

Options C and D are awful No way should they have Discovery Square staying at Westfield:
1. It is one of the two closest neighborhoods to the Western High School
2. It would be the only neighborhood north of 50 going to Westfield--which isolates the students from the rest of their school community.

Option B will take way too many kids out of South Lakes.

Option A + Floris makes sense for people on this board and a lot of people predicted that would be a proposal.

But it turns out that was not even one of the four options. People on this board need to start thinking like the board members.

Someone wondered why they keep grouping a portion of Floris with Fox Mill. But if my understanding is correct, that part of Floris is in the Hunter Mill district along with Fox Mill.

People on this board also appear to assume SLHS shouldn’t lose Fox Mill. But it’s very hard to imagine SLHS parents that are in Reston and not part of this boundary change would actively ask Meren to let Fox Mill stay in SLHS.

This boundary adjustment is very different from the previous one where the SLHS PTA took such an active role. I am not even sure if the Reston parents that are not part of the boundary changes are invited to the community meetings in November.

Meren will want to keep Fox Mill. Fox Mill is closer than the Floris kids that go there. Some of Fox Mill is just as close to South Lakes as Carson.

Some people keep saying that but I haven’t seen any concrete evidence to support that claim.

Sounds like a great question for her on record if she shows on Saturday at the meeting. Will she let her constituents go if there’s clearly a large desire to.

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Anonymous wrote:Option "A+Floris" should alleviate the worst of the western Oakton bus issue, and allows Meren to not lose all of the SLHS kids since she can keep Fox Mill.

Would this split Crossfield ES in a big way, or would the feeder % be somewhat balanced across Oakton and Western HS?

I think it keeps Crossfield together except for Fox Mill Woods--which is already separate. So, split between WesternHS and South Lakes.

I think it's important to maintain continuity for all South Lakes students. People prepare for the IB program starting in 7th grade, it's not fair to rezone them.

Then if they want to stay at SLHS just for IB they can transfer in from Western.

Also no one is preparing for IB exams in 7th grade and only classes can take in MS are math and language which translate easily to AP schools.

My kid knew by 6th grade he wanted to go IB (we are a Floris family, neighborhood zoned for Oakton until Westfield was built).
Principals came from Westfield and SLHS to talk at a PTA meeting when he was in 6th that they encouraged students to attend and ask questions. He did an cememted his decision. We pupil placed to SLHS for IB.
I'm assuming that would still be a choice once it's official our neighborhood is going to the new HS.

Pupil placement rules for IB/AP are the student goes to the closest HS with the program and available space. As long as SLHS stays IB, has space, and IB's not added at a nearer HS, SLHS would be where students from the Floris area IB pupil place to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a Crossfield parent, I think the school board should prioritize bus rides at this point. Fox Mill has a short bus ride to South Lakes, but Crossfield has a very long bus ride to Oakton. There's no excuse for keeping us at Oakton when there are now going to be three high schoolers that are much closer to our homes.

I keep hearing that the Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton........is there a split opinion based on grades? (i.e. 4th and below want to go to the new high school and 5th/6th want to stay at Oakton)?

We want to stay at Oakton because it is a known high performing school that many of us bought houses specifically to attend. The dream is Crossfirld Carson TJ but it won’t happen for all. So Oakton is the next best alternative. Western is a cluster of unknowns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a Crossfield parent, I think the school board should prioritize bus rides at this point. Fox Mill has a short bus ride to South Lakes, but Crossfield has a very long bus ride to Oakton. There's no excuse for keeping us at Oakton when there are now going to be three high schoolers that are much closer to our homes.

I keep hearing that the Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton........is there a split opinion based on grades? (i.e. 4th and below want to go to the new high school and 5th/6th want to stay at Oakton)?

We want to stay at Oakton because it is a known high performing school that many of us bought houses specifically to attend. The dream is Crossfirld Carson TJ but it won’t happen for all. So Oakton is the next best alternative. Western is a cluster of unknowns.

Sounds like your kid is not yet in school--and that you value long, long bus rides over quality of life for your child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a Crossfield parent, I think the school board should prioritize bus rides at this point. Fox Mill has a short bus ride to South Lakes, but Crossfield has a very long bus ride to Oakton. There's no excuse for keeping us at Oakton when there are now going to be three high schoolers that are much closer to our homes.

I keep hearing that the Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton........is there a split opinion based on grades? (i.e. 4th and below want to go to the new high school and 5th/6th want to stay at Oakton)?

We want to stay at Oakton because it is a known high performing school that many of us bought houses specifically to attend. The dream is Crossfirld Carson TJ but it won’t happen for all. So Oakton is the next best alternative. Western is a cluster of unknowns.

I don't understand why anyone would buy a house so far from Oakton and on the edge of its attendance boundary if they specifically had attending Oakton HS in mind when house shopping. We specifically avoided Franklin Farm because of the 2008 rezoning and fear the lines may change again - which now they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a Crossfield parent, I think the school board should prioritize bus rides at this point. Fox Mill has a short bus ride to South Lakes, but Crossfield has a very long bus ride to Oakton. There's no excuse for keeping us at Oakton when there are now going to be three high schoolers that are much closer to our homes.

I keep hearing that the Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton........is there a split opinion based on grades? (i.e. 4th and below want to go to the new high school and 5th/6th want to stay at Oakton)?

We want to stay at Oakton because it is a known high performing school that many of us bought houses specifically to attend. The dream is Crossfirld Carson TJ but it won’t happen for all. So Oakton is the next best alternative. Western is a cluster of unknowns.

Gosh I really hope this is a joke! I knew when I bought my house in Franklin Farm that there was a very high possibility of it some day be rezoned to Chantilly or South Lakes considering both of those are much closer than Oakton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield will almost definitely either go to Western or South Lakes. I don't see them staying at Oakton one bit.

They will never send Crossfield kids to SLHS. Like they will never send Great Falls kids to Herndon.

I don’t see it happening and this feels more like fearmongering.

Like they will never send Oakton and Madison kids to SLHS in 2008?

It depends on who's in charge. Right now we've got a superintendent and a school board who talk big yet have no spine. Yell loud enough and you get your way, and the wealthier parents excel at this.

One reason why they have no spine is they really don't know the district, so they lack the confidence that anything they propose dealing with boundaries makes sense. Often it doesn't, and they back off.

Down the road we could have different people in charge, or the same people may have learned more about the district over time. It's unclear exactly how long Reid can be our superintendent and still act like she just moved here from Washington State two weeks ago.

If Oakton gets crowded with new development, Crossfield absolutely could get sent to SLHS in the future, if Fox Mill moves to Western and there's space at SLHS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a Crossfield parent, I think the school board should prioritize bus rides at this point. Fox Mill has a short bus ride to South Lakes, but Crossfield has a very long bus ride to Oakton. There's no excuse for keeping us at Oakton when there are now going to be three high schoolers that are much closer to our homes.

I keep hearing that the Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton........is there a split opinion based on grades? (i.e. 4th and below want to go to the new high school and 5th/6th want to stay at Oakton)?

We want to stay at Oakton because it is a known high performing school that many of us bought houses specifically to attend. The dream is Crossfirld Carson TJ but it won’t happen for all. So Oakton is the next best alternative. Western is a cluster of unknowns.

Sounds like your kid is not yet in school--and that you value long, long bus rides over quality of life for your child.

Dp. You may think pp is foolish, but they're not the only ones with kids in school who feel this way.