Has tipping gotten out of hand?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree! And the greedier people get the less I go to these places. I’ll pick up my own takeout, even from the nicest restaurants. It’s ridiculous. Plus tipping at places like Starbucks will just make me not go to Starbucks. The prices are high enough and I like the money where it is in my bank account.

This is hilarious. Do you not get upset if you don't get a merit increase each year at your job? Is that being "greedy?"

My merit increase is approximately the same each year. Inflation has been outrageous and I’m still tipping by %; it literally is an increase for them too. I tipped 20% last year - prices rose - now they want 25%?! Yeah, that’s greedy!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree and now also they add a tax onto the drink order at the bar and present you the electronic payment with 20% tip butting for one drink smh. They don't even take cash! I prefer when a $10 drink is $10 flat and then you. Can leave 1 or 2 singles depending on the service.

When a restaurant/coffee shop/bar refuses to take cash, I don’t go there.

All of Nationals Park is cashless.

I have never found a place that wouldn't take cash, but I agree with you. They wouldn't get paid for what I ordered, or my future business if they said that.

[Anonymous]

I had a coffee shop in Virginia that told me I could pay cash but they couldn’t give me change. They wanted me to leave the change, which was considerable, for a tip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had a coffee shop in Virginia that told me I could pay cash but they couldn’t give me change. They wanted me to leave the change, which was considerable, for a tip.

Based on recent experiences, many cashiers can not give change. Entirely befuddled at the prospect.

Sorry, off-topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had a coffee shop in Virginia that told me I could pay cash but they couldn’t give me change. They wanted me to leave the change, which was considerable, for a tip.

Based on recent experiences, many cashiers can not give change. Entirely befuddled at the prospect.

Sorry, off-topic.

PP here and yes, I’m starting to realize that this is unfortunately true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I am suggest to tip, I don't tip at all.

If I am required to tip, I don't pay at all.

If I am asked if I need change when paying cash, I don't tip at all and tell them why.

Never assume you are going to get a tip.

I think you can assume that if you go back to a place a second time after not tipping, you are going to get jizz in your food.

PP is probably used to the taste and would miss it if it weren't there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Today I had a casual lunch in Boulder CO- two of us. A 20% gratuity was added to our bill on the total with taxes. Menu states “20% included for all parties of one or more”.

I found it kind of shocking. I’d have tipped 20% or more anyway but how many people miss that and sign adding the tip on top, or at what point does an automatic gratuity become a subsidy and not a tip? Not sure but it surprised me and I don’t remember seeing that before.

Uh... isn't that everyone?

Why are you adding an "uh" in front of the sentence? Yes, it's for everyone. Can't you read?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. 20-22% is still standard. They can ask for whatever they want. You can do your own math and leave what you want.

15-20% is standard when you go by reality and not the "suggested tip" prompts that restaurant owners inflate to make you feel guilty.

When tips are a percentage of the bill it is ridiculous to ever increase the standard percentage over time because the menu prices increasing with inflation does that for you.

Likewise the opposite. A $25 tab in a diner where the waitstaff busts their hump. You know people are leaving $2, $3. I'll leave $10. If you can't afford that you shouldn't go to a diner. I forego the ridiculous $200 restaurants and associated outrageous tip for the effort expended so that I can tip the hard workers a little better.

To a point I agree but also a fine dining server is doing different work than a diner server and it's not unreasonable that there is some disparity in their pay.

For one, a fine dining server is serving a lot fewer tables and spending a lot more time per table. Somewhere like Minibar that only has like 3 seatings of 15 seats a night a server may only wait on 6 "tables" their entire shift yet still be carrying just as many plates and walking just as many steps as Flo at the diner when you consider they're bringing 15 courses plus wine pairings for each customer. There's also a level of knowledge and attention that the diner server doesn't have. Flo at the diner doesn't have to memorize 250 bottles of wine in the cellar and know how to pair them, and Flo at the diner refills your coffee when she has time to grab the pot and make the rounds while the fine dining server is monitoring everyone's water and refilling them precisely when they reach 1/4 full or whatever.

You may say "well I don't care if my water glass is sometimes empty so why should I pay for it" but that's part and parcel of fine dining. If you don't like it the diner and the $3 tips are always an option.

Way to miss the entire point of the post that you are responding to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today I had a casual lunch in Boulder CO- two of us. A 20% gratuity was added to our bill on the total with taxes. Menu states “20% included for all parties of one or more”.

I found it kind of shocking. I’d have tipped 20% or more anyway but how many people miss that and sign adding the tip on top, or at what point does an automatic gratuity become a subsidy and not a tip? Not sure but it surprised me and I don’t remember seeing that before.

Uh... isn't that everyone?

Why are you adding an "uh" in front of the sentence? Yes, it's for everyone. Can't you read?

Yes, I can read... I am "shocked" that the restaurant puts that in the fine print, and that they would phrase it that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you go to Europe, the common practice is to round up the bill to the next Euro and if service was good to great, you may give an extra Euro or two, but no pressure.

In Asia, no tipping. It's based on honor, the thinking being 'you don't need to tip me to do my job well'.

Here in the USA, you are presented with the bill on a tablet that defaults for starters to 25%!

WTH?

Never seen a bill on a tech device or with gratuity demanded. Maybe stop going to places like that?

Did you last visit a restaurant in the Nixon administration?

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you go to Europe, the common practice is to round up the bill to the next Euro and if service was good to great, you may give an extra Euro or two, but no pressure.

In Asia, no tipping. It's based on honor, the thinking being 'you don't need to tip me to do my job well'.

Here in the USA, you are presented with the bill on a tablet that defaults for starters to 25%!

WTH?

Never seen a bill on a tech device or with gratuity demanded. Maybe stop going to places like that?

1. A couple of months ago, I ordered a pendant light on the internet, and the check out page asked me to leave a tip for the "team".

2. Yesterday I ordered some packaged food, and the check out page asked me to tip as well.

It is laughable.

[Anonymous]

I was a server in HS and college. Most of the time, my tips correlated with the quality of the service I provided. That’s how it should be. I learned so much from that job. I learned interpersonal skills and how to make people happy. I learned that doing the little things can go a long way. I learned the cause and effect of my actions/attitude. But sometimes I would give great service and still get stiffed. I learned that life is unfair. Other times, I gave crummy service and got an outstanding tip. So I also learned that some people are very understanding and kind. I accepted the job knowing that tips were never a guarantee and that some nights I would not even make minimum wage. So I learned to see the big picture and how I did over time. I also learned not to spend all my tips quickly since I couldn’t count on them at my next shift.

It makes me sad that this generation of servers will not learn these lessons. They just think their customers are obligated to compensate for the employers shortcomings. My daughter had a job as a server. She is a smart kid but could not comprehend the concept of tips being related to the quality of service. It just isn’t even a thing anymore and not something she was taught at that job.

[Anonymous]

The craziest thing about being asked to tip when you pay - you haven’t received the product or service yet! What if I tip my barista when I pay, but my coffee is cold, gross, and took way too long? What then?

Also have you noticed that some workers turn the tablet away from you before you have time to leave a tip? Apparently this is because their employers factor those tips into their hourly wage and pay whatever the difference is. So, basically the employer pockets the tip and employees don’t get any of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had a coffee shop in Virginia that told me I could pay cash but they couldn’t give me change. They wanted me to leave the change, which was considerable, for a tip.

Based on recent experiences, many cashiers can not give change. Entirely befuddled at the prospect.

Sorry, off-topic.

Yeah, I am a 5th grade teacher. I teach them to count back change. It goes along with our decimals unit, but I do it entirely so that they will blow people’s minds if they happen to become cashiers someday. Lol.

[Anonymous]

I give 0% tips and give zero Fs. Restaurt servers get 20% minus any service fees.

There is no tipping inflation if you don't allow it.