Racism and misogyny and homophobia are so ugly

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Our once very religious culture was very intolerant of homosexuals. Fortunately, as we've evolved into a less religious society, we've become much less bigoted towards gays. Laws pertaining to same-sex marriages and gay rights reflect this change as well. Sometimes progress doesn't happen as quickly as we'd like but there has been noticeable progress for the better on this social issue in recent decades.

I know thousands of people on a first-name basis. Of those thousands of people, I may be able to name five people who aren't accepting of gay people. Flashback 40 years ago and someone my age would tell you that at least 50% of the people they know are not tolerant of open gayness.

These people (the woke left) are only united by their victimhood. If they aren't persecuted, who are they? Why are you trying to take away the one thing they've got-- their belief that everyone else is bad? Do you... hate them?

Oh, look who’s painting an entire group of people with a broad brush now. How racist of you.

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You all need to stop with your lumping together all people of a particular race, gender, sexual preference, religious beliefs when making derogatory statements about people. It's a disgusting sign of low intelligence and/or ignorance.

People also need to stop with the thought terminating cliches. It’s a deflection tactic intended to end the discussion.

“Saying that racism is a problem in the 21st century is the real racism.”

“That doesn’t make sense when there are still systemic inequalities which -“

“BOOOOOO! RACIST!”

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Our once very religious culture was very intolerant of homosexuals. Fortunately, as we've evolved into a less religious society, we've become much less bigoted towards gays. Laws pertaining to same-sex marriages and gay rights reflect this change as well. Sometimes progress doesn't happen as quickly as we'd like but there has been noticeable progress for the better on this social issue in recent decades.

I know thousands of people on a first-name basis. Of those thousands of people, I may be able to name five people who aren't accepting of gay people. Flashback 40 years ago and someone my age would tell you that at least 50% of the people they know are not tolerant of open gayness.

These people (the woke left) are only united by their victimhood. If they aren't persecuted, who are they? Why are you trying to take away the one thing they've got-- their belief that everyone else is bad? Do you... hate them?

Oh, look who’s painting an entire group of people with a broad brush now. How racist of you.

Fascinating take- which race do you see this way?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

It's 2025. No one is looking around dark corners for gays. If you know someone who is, identify them and call them out for their ridiculous behavior.

I doubt people were ever afraid of gays. As a demographic, they arent considered prone to crime or violence.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

They aren’t scared of gay men lurking in dark corners. They are scared of being accused of being gay or having a gay man hit on them because it will challenge their masculinity.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

“I don’t hate X, I just don’t want to be around them” is a form of phobia though. Loke garter snakes. I don’t hate garter snakes and I know they won’t hurt me. I just don’t want to be near them and would prefer they go live their lives under a rock somewhere where I don’t have to encounter them.

Most misogynists still want women around, just in a subservient role.

I knew a misogynist once. He fell in love with a woman who didn't put up with that mess and then he pretty much lived out his life in a subservient role to the person he loved. He was a flawed person but he had a good heart and he never resisted change or acknowledging mistakes. I miss him.

If you know people who are senselessly bigoted towards any group of people, talk to them and give them a chance to evolve. Most bigotry is rooted in ignorance with people formulating blanket opinions of a certain group of people from some means other than having shared spaces in their communities with those people.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

They aren’t scared of gay men lurking in dark corners. They are scared of being accused of being gay or having a gay man hit on them because it will challenge their masculinity.

Why would they be afraid of being hit on? That doesn't make any sense. I can see being annoyed or disgusted, but I don't think a man would experience terror striking through him because another dude gives him a once over. Come on now. It's a ridiculous term and you know it.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

They aren’t scared of gay men lurking in dark corners. They are scared of being accused of being gay or having a gay man hit on them because it will challenge their masculinity.

Also afraid that their kids will “turn” gay if they learn that gay people exist.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

They aren’t scared of gay men lurking in dark corners. They are scared of being accused of being gay or having a gay man hit on them because it will challenge their masculinity.

Also afraid that their kids will “turn” gay if they learn that gay people exist.

Kids don't have a sexual orientation, you weirdo.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

They aren’t scared of gay men lurking in dark corners. They are scared of being accused of being gay or having a gay man hit on them because it will challenge their masculinity.

Also afraid that their kids will “turn” gay if they learn that gay people exist.

Kids don't have a sexual orientation, you weirdo.

Of course they do. Kids have crushes and attractions long before they know what sex is.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

They aren’t scared of gay men lurking in dark corners. They are scared of being accused of being gay or having a gay man hit on them because it will challenge their masculinity.

Why would they be afraid of being hit on? That doesn't make any sense. I can see being annoyed or disgusted, but I don't think a man would experience terror striking through him because another dude gives him a once over. Come on now. It's a ridiculous term and you know it.

I would love for you folks to point out who these "they" people are who are apparently "afraid" of gay people in 2025. I'd like to have a word with them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

They aren’t scared of gay men lurking in dark corners. They are scared of being accused of being gay or having a gay man hit on them because it will challenge their masculinity.

Also afraid that their kids will “turn” gay if they learn that gay people exist.

Kids don't have a sexual orientation, you weirdo.

Of course they do. Kids have crushes and attractions long before they know what sex is.

I remember having some weird kissing thing with Christie Weinberger in the cubby nook in kindergarten. Hope you're well Christie.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

They aren’t scared of gay men lurking in dark corners. They are scared of being accused of being gay or having a gay man hit on them because it will challenge their masculinity.

Also afraid that their kids will “turn” gay if they learn that gay people exist.

Kids don't have a sexual orientation, you weirdo.

Did you get your sexual orientation when you turned 18 or 21?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

They aren’t scared of gay men lurking in dark corners. They are scared of being accused of being gay or having a gay man hit on them because it will challenge their masculinity.

Also afraid that their kids will “turn” gay if they learn that gay people exist.

Kids don't have a sexual orientation, you weirdo.

Of course they do. Kids have crushes and attractions long before they know what sex is.

I remember having some weird kissing thing with Christie Weinberger in the cubby nook in kindergarten. Hope you're well Christie.

I had a crush on a boy in second grade. For a week or two I would call his house every afternoon when I got home from school, then chicken out and hang up as soon as someone answered. Wherever you are, Alexander M., I‘m sorry about that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

“I don’t hate X, I just don’t want to be around them” is a form of phobia though. Loke garter snakes. I don’t hate garter snakes and I know they won’t hurt me. I just don’t want to be near them and would prefer they go live their lives under a rock somewhere where I don’t have to encounter them.

Most misogynists still want women around, just in a subservient role.

I knew a misogynist once. He fell in love with a woman who didn't put up with that mess and then he pretty much lived out his life in a subservient role to the person he loved. He was a flawed person but he had a good heart and he never resisted change or acknowledging mistakes. I miss him.

If you know people who are senselessly bigoted towards any group of people, talk to them and give them a chance to evolve. Most bigotry is rooted in ignorance with people formulating blanket opinions of a certain group of people from some means other than having shared spaces in their communities with those people.

I’m glad to hear that your friend was able to change his views over time and find a deeper, more satisfying relationship.

I’ve been trying to combat bigotry when I encounter it, but it’s hard for me as an individual to compete with news outlets, social media, and influencers with a huge reach, whose income depends on keeping people divided and angry. Online, if I offer something to temper the bigotry, I usually get called names and/or blocked.

Even on here, overtly racist comments get reported and deleted, but statements like “lazy immigrants” and “the violent left” get thrown around all the time as tropes. I’ve never been able to get through to those posters and change their minds. They’re convinced what’s inside their heads is reality.

Unfortunately, hatred is addictive and profitable. Outrage drives clicks and views. Until Americans wise up and walk away from the anger machine, we’re going to continue to be at each other’s throats. We need to ask who is trying to divide us, and why.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is actually afraid of gay people. No one hesitates walking down a dark street, looking around for gays. It's just a bizarre concept and I'm over it. People arent afraid of gays, and most people by the polling don't think about gays or want to stop gay people from having gay liaisons. They just don't like pride parades. If Gallup asked, "would you rather have your child's teacher be openly gay or have a pride parade on your street every day," the teacher is winning every time.

No one’s afraid of gays…they just want no parades, no books about gay people in libraries, no mention of it in schools, no gay people in the military (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell), no gay movie characters, no gay people celebrating their identity in public, no gay people getting married. They just want to be able to call gay people deviants, perverts, and filth, and shove them back into the closet where they won’t bother anybody. But sure, nobody’s actually SCARED of them, so it’s all OK and there’s no bigotry

Being objective- we call everyone names. Everyone. It's not clear why gay people expect to be any different, or why people disliking them or judging them is holding them back-- we are ALL judged for our physical appearance, lifestyle choices, etc.

But gays are the only ones who claim that it's a phobia, like how people react to spiders or confined spaces. We don't say femophobia, noirphobia, karenphobia. We only say homophobia, and I think that's to poke at the masculine tendency to say "I'm not scared!" And I agree, they aren't scared, they just don't like it. It's okay. We are a nation of people that don't like each other.

Ummm have you ever heard of misogyny?

Sure it’s not a “phobia” though so that doesn’t count?

That's my point. We don't call it femi-phobia. The etymology of misogyny comes from the Greek word for hate, not fear. Most of these terms are describing hatred. Homophobia is the only term I can think of about disdain for a group that is about fear vs hatred.

Homophobia, as a word, is a neologism from the 1960s that is attempting to frame the discussion and convince people that everyone is looking around dark corners for gays.

“I don’t hate X, I just don’t want to be around them” is a form of phobia though. Loke garter snakes. I don’t hate garter snakes and I know they won’t hurt me. I just don’t want to be near them and would prefer they go live their lives under a rock somewhere where I don’t have to encounter them.

Most misogynists still want women around, just in a subservient role.

I knew a misogynist once. He fell in love with a woman who didn't put up with that mess and then he pretty much lived out his life in a subservient role to the person he loved. He was a flawed person but he had a good heart and he never resisted change or acknowledging mistakes. I miss him.

If you know people who are senselessly bigoted towards any group of people, talk to them and give them a chance to evolve. Most bigotry is rooted in ignorance with people formulating blanket opinions of a certain group of people from some means other than having shared spaces in their communities with those people.

I’m glad to hear that your friend was able to change his views over time and find a deeper, more satisfying relationship.

I’ve been trying to combat bigotry when I encounter it, but it’s hard for me as an individual to compete with news outlets, social media, and influencers with a huge reach, whose income depends on keeping people divided and angry. Online, if I offer something to temper the bigotry, I usually get called names and/or blocked.

Even on here, overtly racist comments get reported and deleted, but statements like “lazy immigrants” and “the violent left” get thrown around all the time as tropes. I’ve never been able to get through to those posters and change their minds. They’re convinced what’s inside their heads is reality.

Unfortunately, hatred is addictive and profitable. Outrage drives clicks and views. Until Americans wise up and walk away from the anger machine, we’re going to continue to be at each other’s throats. We need to ask who is trying to divide us, and why.

Why does "violent left" strike you as racist?