New presentation on program analysis and boundary study up

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.


With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.


The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.


LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.


The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.



FALSE!
The Board of Education sets the budgets. They decide how money will be spent. That’s Maryland law.
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Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.


With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.


The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.


LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.


The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.


The BOE is the highest authority in the school system and can exercise as much power as they want. While of course they don't micromanage small details, Taylor works for them and all the rest of MCPS works for him. If there is something you believe they don't have the authority to change, you're going to need to show some proof.


This is Julie Yang's quote: "The board and the school system have different roles. The board's role is policy and budget. The school system is in operation. In terms of the boundary study, boundary decisions will require a vote from the board. However, program design is under the Superintendent's purview. MCPS put in programs, modify programs, or eliminate programs all the time. These decisions do not require a board vote. For example, this past school year, MCPS eliminated one CASE (Curriculum for Agricultural Science Education) program in high school.

However, the board can, through our questions and conversations, help adjust and improve the work of MCPS and can hold the Superintendent accountable for the results. "


What an idiot.

If the BOE doesn’t fund something, it doesn’t happen.
Anonymous
Looks great; I support it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.


With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.


The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.


LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.


The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.


The BOE is the highest authority in the school system and can exercise as much power as they want. While of course they don't micromanage small details, Taylor works for them and all the rest of MCPS works for him. If there is something you believe they don't have the authority to change, you're going to need to show some proof.


This is Julie Yang's quote: "The board and the school system have different roles. The board's role is policy and budget. The school system is in operation. In terms of the boundary study, boundary decisions will require a vote from the board. However, program design is under the Superintendent's purview. MCPS put in programs, modify programs, or eliminate programs all the time. These decisions do not require a board vote. For example, this past school year, MCPS eliminated one CASE (Curriculum for Agricultural Science Education) program in high school.

However, the board can, through our questions and conversations, help adjust and improve the work of MCPS and can hold the Superintendent accountable for the results. "


Wow, she's really trying to duck responsibility and accountability. Just because program decisions do not *require* a board vote does not mean that the Board isn't able to pump the brakes on or alter the direction of anything they damn well please.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DKRJWU4F383C/$file/10.01%20Program%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Comm%20Engage%20Plan%20Update%20250821%20PPT%20REV.pdf

I was able to find it here.


Thank you!
Anonymous
These program analysis changes are such a weird mix of things that seem like a great idea and hugely needed, and things that seem like a terrible idea and likely to be disastrous.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.


With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.


The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.


LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.


The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.


The BOE is the highest authority in the school system and can exercise as much power as they want. While of course they don't micromanage small details, Taylor works for them and all the rest of MCPS works for him. If there is something you believe they don't have the authority to change, you're going to need to show some proof.


This is Julie Yang's quote: "The board and the school system have different roles. The board's role is policy and budget. The school system is in operation. In terms of the boundary study, boundary decisions will require a vote from the board. However, program design is under the Superintendent's purview. MCPS put in programs, modify programs, or eliminate programs all the time. These decisions do not require a board vote. For example, this past school year, MCPS eliminated one CASE (Curriculum for Agricultural Science Education) program in high school.

However, the board can, through our questions and conversations, help adjust and improve the work of MCPS and can hold the Superintendent accountable for the results. "

So it’s only after Taylor wrecks the district that they can fire him? He needs to go now.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.


With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.


The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.


LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.


The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.


The BOE is the highest authority in the school system and can exercise as much power as they want. While of course they don't micromanage small details, Taylor works for them and all the rest of MCPS works for him. If there is something you believe they don't have the authority to change, you're going to need to show some proof.


This is Julie Yang's quote: "The board and the school system have different roles. The board's role is policy and budget. The school system is in operation. In terms of the boundary study, boundary decisions will require a vote from the board. However, program design is under the Superintendent's purview. MCPS put in programs, modify programs, or eliminate programs all the time. These decisions do not require a board vote. For example, this past school year, MCPS eliminated one CASE (Curriculum for Agricultural Science Education) program in high school.

However, the board can, through our questions and conversations, help adjust and improve the work of MCPS and can hold the Superintendent accountable for the results. "

So it’s only after Taylor wrecks the district that they can fire him? He needs to go now.


He's not going anywhere. MCPS can't just keep changing superintendents every year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.


With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.


The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.


LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.


The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.



FALSE!
The Board of Education sets the budgets. They decide how money will be spent. That’s Maryland law.


They vote on lots of things, sure. But they are playing at the edges.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So under this would existing PLTW schools lose their programs if they aren’t listed as offering an engineering program? Or is that considered a local program?

More broadly, what is the definition of a local program that is not centrally managed?


It's a program that the school offers to its own students who express interest, not one that's on this list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ovH1xt873E-0-dqjWCz00koPlHeACK6YwyekZ9zngQ/preview?tab=t.0


Is Project Lead the Way a local program or a centrally managed one?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So under this would existing PLTW schools lose their programs if they aren’t listed as offering an engineering program? Or is that considered a local program?

More broadly, what is the definition of a local program that is not centrally managed?


It's a program that the school offers to its own students who express interest, not one that's on this list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ovH1xt873E-0-dqjWCz00koPlHeACK6YwyekZ9zngQ/preview?tab=t.0


Is Project Lead the Way a local program or a centrally managed one?


It depends on the school/program.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These program analysis changes are such a weird mix of things that seem like a great idea and hugely needed, and things that seem like a terrible idea and likely to be disastrous.


Rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. What a clusterf*ck
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These program analysis changes are such a weird mix of things that seem like a great idea and hugely needed, and things that seem like a terrible idea and likely to be disastrous.


I don’t think they’re inherently bad ideas, but they’re being implemented in such a hurry, there’s no way they could be done well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of this is too expensive and too complicated. They should start with the new boundaries for 2-3 years as they really study program options. Would love to see a cost comparisons to just having all secondary schools offer quality programming. Who says we have to have such specialized programs? This is a want, not a need. We can’t get blood from a rock. We have so many kids that still can’t read. This is all a waste of time for a small subset of students that will do well regardless of what program or building they are in.


With all the extra costs they could use that money to better help the schools. We need to vote the boe out.


The programs are not in the purview of the BOE, it’s Taylor and McPS. The BOE only gets final say in the boundaries. The BOE hs been asking critical questions of both studies. The first time Taylor let the Program team answer for themselves. Then, in July, Taylor chimed in like a used car salesman to smooth over when his team gave honest answers that the BoE clearly didn’t like.


LOL
Are you enjoying the Kool-Aid? The BOE runs the school system. It is all their purview.


The BOE advises. The superintendent runs the school system. The BOE's only hard power is to hire and fire the superintendent.


The BOE is the highest authority in the school system and can exercise as much power as they want. While of course they don't micromanage small details, Taylor works for them and all the rest of MCPS works for him. If there is something you believe they don't have the authority to change, you're going to need to show some proof.


This is Julie Yang's quote: "The board and the school system have different roles. The board's role is policy and budget. The school system is in operation. In terms of the boundary study, boundary decisions will require a vote from the board. However, program design is under the Superintendent's purview. MCPS put in programs, modify programs, or eliminate programs all the time. These decisions do not require a board vote. For example, this past school year, MCPS eliminated one CASE (Curriculum for Agricultural Science Education) program in high school.

However, the board can, through our questions and conversations, help adjust and improve the work of MCPS and can hold the Superintendent accountable for the results. "


Which is sad because Agriculture/Sustainability are growing fields.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So under this would existing PLTW schools lose their programs if they aren’t listed as offering an engineering program? Or is that considered a local program?

More broadly, what is the definition of a local program that is not centrally managed?


It's a program that the school offers to its own students who express interest, not one that's on this list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ovH1xt873E-0-dqjWCz00koPlHeACK6YwyekZ9zngQ/preview?tab=t.0


Is Project Lead the Way a local program or a centrally managed one?


MCPS purchases the curriculum:

https://www.pltw.org
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