New presentation on program analysis and boundary study up

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Einstein IB locally managed? So they could keep IB and performing arts? We chose Einstein in good faith through the DCC process and it’s so disheartening to try and make sense of all of this when there been zero transparent engagement with DCC families. I how the BoE stands up to this.


I don't support keeping random IB programs. They cost money and will inevitably be worse than the regional version. What is the point?
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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.


Your view is that honors classes and on level classes don't help critical thinking? Only IB students get an education with fundamentals? And THAT would be OK for FARMS students?


Why can’t they keep all of them as they are offered right now? The point is they would lose opportunity and choice. Kids shouldn’t lose out in this process.


Because there is only so many resources and quality does matter. It doesn’t make sense to say offer IB classes at Einstein only in 11th/12th grade, with little to no one completing the diploma, and then at a different school that IB classes are offered with support from freshman year ensuring students are prepared plus a bunch of enriching opportunities and most of the students complete the diploma.



Where is the data about IB diploma completion per school?


Good question!
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Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?


By the time the regional programs begin, Northwood will be out of the holding school and in its brand new building.
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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.


Your view is that honors classes and on level classes don't help critical thinking? Only IB students get an education with fundamentals? And THAT would be OK for FARMS students?


Why can’t they keep all of them as they are offered right now? The point is they would lose opportunity and choice. Kids shouldn’t lose out in this process.


Because there is only so many resources and quality does matter. It doesn’t make sense to say offer IB classes at Einstein only in 11th/12th grade, with little to no one completing the diploma, and then at a different school that IB classes are offered with support from freshman year ensuring students are prepared plus a bunch of enriching opportunities and most of the students complete the diploma.



Where is the data about IB diploma completion per school?


MCPS avoids sharing that data if they can help it.
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Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?


By the time the regional programs begin, Northwood will be out of the holding school and in its brand new building.


I remember remotely that someone from central office clarified that the auditorium for Northwood wouldn't be ready to use in another 2-3 years or so in the last week's BOE meeting?
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Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?


By the time the regional programs begin, Northwood will be out of the holding school and in its brand new building.


I remember remotely that someone from central office clarified that the auditorium for Northwood wouldn't be ready to use in another 2-3 years or so in the last week's BOE meeting?


Einstein is very old and needs replaced. That may be a factor but then there is little reason to go to Einstein given academics are minimal.
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Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?


By the time the regional programs begin, Northwood will be out of the holding school and in its brand new building.


I remember remotely that someone from central office clarified that the auditorium for Northwood wouldn't be ready to use in another 2-3 years or so in the last week's BOE meeting?


No, they said the whole school including the auditorium would be ready to open in 2027.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?


By the time the regional programs begin, Northwood will be out of the holding school and in its brand new building.


I remember remotely that someone from central office clarified that the auditorium for Northwood wouldn't be ready to use in another 2-3 years or so in the last week's BOE meeting?


No, they said the whole school including the auditorium would be ready to open in 2027.


Was that the new Northwood that would open with the auditorium, or was it just that they found enough money to re-fund the (Phase 2, then delayed to a new Phase 3, now back to Phase 2) building of the auditorium at Woodward (while Northwood students are using the base plant of Phase 1 as a holding school) so that it would be available to Woodward students when that opens? Or will both auditoriums be ready in 2027?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?


By the time the regional programs begin, Northwood will be out of the holding school and in its brand new building.


I remember remotely that someone from central office clarified that the auditorium for Northwood wouldn't be ready to use in another 2-3 years or so in the last week's BOE meeting?


No, they said the whole school including the auditorium would be ready to open in 2027.


Was that the new Northwood that would open with the auditorium, or was it just that they found enough money to re-fund the (Phase 2, then delayed to a new Phase 3, now back to Phase 2) building of the auditorium at Woodward (while Northwood students are using the base plant of Phase 1 as a holding school) so that it would be available to Woodward students when that opens? Or will both auditoriums be ready in 2027?


The new Northwood is scheduled to open with its auditorium in 2027.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Einstein IB locally managed? So they could keep IB and performing arts? We chose Einstein in good faith through the DCC process and it’s so disheartening to try and make sense of all of this when there been zero transparent engagement with DCC families. I how the BoE stands up to this.


I don't support keeping random IB programs. They cost money and will inevitably be worse than the regional version. What is the point?


Rockville HS's local IB program outperforms regional IB programs at Springbrook and Kennedy.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?


By the time the regional programs begin, Northwood will be out of the holding school and in its brand new building.


I remember remotely that someone from central office clarified that the auditorium for Northwood wouldn't be ready to use in another 2-3 years or so in the last week's BOE meeting?


No, they said the whole school including the auditorium would be ready to open in 2027.


Was that the new Northwood that would open with the auditorium, or was it just that they found enough money to re-fund the (Phase 2, then delayed to a new Phase 3, now back to Phase 2) building of the auditorium at Woodward (while Northwood students are using the base plant of Phase 1 as a holding school) so that it would be available to Woodward students when that opens? Or will both auditoriums be ready in 2027?


The new Northwood is scheduled to open with its auditorium in 2027.


Northwood is losing its MC2 program, with Montgomery College instructors teaching courses at Northwood that count towards an associates degree. That's a real loss for that school.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?


By the time the regional programs begin, Northwood will be out of the holding school and in its brand new building.


I remember remotely that someone from central office clarified that the auditorium for Northwood wouldn't be ready to use in another 2-3 years or so in the last week's BOE meeting?


No, they said the whole school including the auditorium would be ready to open in 2027.


Was that the new Northwood that would open with the auditorium, or was it just that they found enough money to re-fund the (Phase 2, then delayed to a new Phase 3, now back to Phase 2) building of the auditorium at Woodward (while Northwood students are using the base plant of Phase 1 as a holding school) so that it would be available to Woodward students when that opens? Or will both auditoriums be ready in 2027?


The new Northwood is scheduled to open with its auditorium in 2027.


Northwood is losing its MC2 program, with Montgomery College instructors teaching courses at Northwood that count towards an associates degree. That's a real loss for that school.


Where has that been communicated?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Einstein IB locally managed? So they could keep IB and performing arts? We chose Einstein in good faith through the DCC process and it’s so disheartening to try and make sense of all of this when there been zero transparent engagement with DCC families. I how the BoE stands up to this.


I don't support keeping random IB programs. They cost money and will inevitably be worse than the regional version. What is the point?


Rockville HS's local IB program outperforms regional IB programs at Springbrook and Kennedy.


So? Rockville will be in a region with RM, so again, it would make no sense to keep their local program.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...


Moving Performing Arts from Einstein to Northwood is a big risk. Their holding school doesn’t even have an auditorium. How can we be assured the new Northwood will have performing arts facilities completed by 2027?



+10000 - and how can we be assured of the needed high-level instruction at a school that historically hasn't thrived in this area? And also _what about the students who are currently in grades 7 and 8?_. Where do they go? To a holding school with no arts facilities, to a school that is about to lose its program priority, or to a school that doesn't have a program yet?


By the time the regional programs begin, Northwood will be out of the holding school and in its brand new building.


I remember remotely that someone from central office clarified that the auditorium for Northwood wouldn't be ready to use in another 2-3 years or so in the last week's BOE meeting?


No, they said the whole school including the auditorium would be ready to open in 2027.


Was that the new Northwood that would open with the auditorium, or was it just that they found enough money to re-fund the (Phase 2, then delayed to a new Phase 3, now back to Phase 2) building of the auditorium at Woodward (while Northwood students are using the base plant of Phase 1 as a holding school) so that it would be available to Woodward students when that opens? Or will both auditoriums be ready in 2027?


The new Northwood is scheduled to open with its auditorium in 2027.


Northwood is losing its MC2 program, with Montgomery College instructors teaching courses at Northwood that count towards an associates degree. That's a real loss for that school.


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