How can anyone take us seriously in these dimity florals and huge shoulder ruffles?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't think of any job where productivity can be improved by wearing a suit or a sheath dress instead of a jeans and tee shirt. You won't perform any magic in heels or dress shoes which can't be performed in sneakers or loafers.

Actually there are numerous studies on this both in schools and in the workplace. People do perform better when they are dressed nicer.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time taking my male colleagues seriously when they are wearing an archaic “costume” that hasn’t changed since 1920 or so. I don’t understand why men’s fashions don’t evolve. The blazer, the tie.

Men's fashions change, just like women's. Ties are out right now, and the cut of blazers and slacks changes, and shoes. A man's suit from 20 years ago would look as dated as a woman's suit from 20 years ago.

I want a female uniform that doesn't change. I don't want to waste more mental energy, not to mention time shopping, on this crap.
That sounds depressing. Minor changes in uniforms.

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Anonymous wrote:A person can conduct work while wearing them… and do.

This^. You don't need a uniform to be good at your job.

I agree, but then why all the hand wringing about athleisure or wearing sweats to WFH?

Clothes aren't just to cover you, they are messaging. Business wear conveys a certain message, and a floral sundress conveys a different one.

Using clothes to signal status is sad.

Tale as old as time. People have ALWAYS done this - ever visit a portrait museum?

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of trying to look professional, focus on being more professional.

Yes, start with your outfit and behave accordingly.

If you dress like you are about to churn butter, I won't be able to imagine you delivering your closing argument in court.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have any trouble taking a woman seriously because of her clothes.

I do.

Even fast food restaurants have no shirt, no shoes, no service policy. Clothing says a lot about a person, even on the subconscious level.

You sound superficial, but maybe if you dress well enough you can fool people into taking you seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have any trouble taking a woman seriously because of her clothes.

I do.

Even fast food restaurants have no shirt, no shoes, no service policy. Clothing says a lot about a person, even on the subconscious level.

You sound superficial, but maybe if you dress well enough you can fool people into taking you seriously.

Maybe that's why I'm the boss - I've fooled everyone - even the investors like you who never see me and supposedly only see $$$$.

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Anonymous wrote:I love dressing like that. I'm wealthy and educated, and above all, I don't have weird American hang-ups about what constitutes femininity in 2025.

Before it was a style in the US, I had to spend hours online looking for stuff sold in Japan. Or go to Japan (and see my cousins).

You don't need to wear only what you find in stores. Some decades will be harder than others to find what YOU like to wear, but a little persistence pays off!

I just don’t buy that women have to be infantilized to look feminine.

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This thread is dumb.

No one is claiming sundresses are for the office.

Plenty of women work from home or don't work (i.e. SAHMs) and can wear sundresses whenever we want. The PP who is a lawyer who likes the Tuckernuck lemon dress never said she would wear it to work. Presumably she also has a life outside of her office!

OP seems to want more office clothing in stores. There are plenty of stores that sell traditional, not ruffled, work clothing. She is free to head over to Brooks Brothers whenever she likes.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post some photos, please? I'm not sure what you all are talking about.

https://tnuck.com/products/lemon-blanca-midi-dress

https://www.anthropologie.com/shop/the-peregrine-square-neck-midi-dress?category=dresses-midi&color=030&type=STANDARD&quantity=1

https://www.hillhousehome.com/collections/nap-dress-shop/products/the-ellie-nap-dress-farmers-market?variant=41363556728875

These are all dresses I put my kids in as preschoolers for birthdays and holidays.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is dumb.

No one is claiming sundresses are for the office.

Plenty of women work from home or don't work (i.e. SAHMs) and can wear sundresses whenever we want. The PP who is a lawyer who likes the Tuckernuck lemon dress never said she would wear it to work. Presumably she also has a life outside of her office!

OP seems to want more office clothing in stores. There are plenty of stores that sell traditional, not ruffled, work clothing. She is free to head over to Brooks Brothers whenever she likes.

I think that’s op’s point. More than just highest end stores should offer something for the non trad wives customer.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't think of any job where productivity can be improved by wearing a suit or a sheath dress instead of a jeans and tee shirt. You won't perform any magic in heels or dress shoes which can't be performed in sneakers or loafers.

Actually there are numerous studies on this both in schools and in the workplace. People do perform better when they are dressed nicer.

And, sadly, women who wear makeup also do better.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time taking my male colleagues seriously when they are wearing an archaic “costume” that hasn’t changed since 1920 or so. I don’t understand why men’s fashions don’t evolve. The blazer, the tie.

Men's fashions change, just like women's. Ties are out right now, and the cut of blazers and slacks changes, and shoes. A man's suit from 20 years ago would look as dated as a woman's suit from 20 years ago.

NOT AT ALL. It's a well-known fact that men's fashion haven't changed in any great way for the past 100 years. Some details have changed, by entire millimeters! But essentially the work uniform has stayed the same.

Women's fashions have changed a lot more in that span of time. Thank God.

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Anonymous wrote:I love dressing like that. I'm wealthy and educated, and above all, I don't have weird American hang-ups about what constitutes femininity in 2025.

Before it was a style in the US, I had to spend hours online looking for stuff sold in Japan. Or go to Japan (and see my cousins).

You don't need to wear only what you find in stores. Some decades will be harder than others to find what YOU like to wear, but a little persistence pays off!

I just don’t buy that women have to be infantilized to look feminine.

PP you replied to. YOU think florals and ruffles are baby-ish. Why would an age group have ownership of a style of dress? Do you understand that this reasoning is flawed at the most basic level?

I strongly reject any strictures on dress for anyone. It's just another way for society to force people into submission. I just want to wear what I like. And I like little flowers and pastels.

You must be the sort of person who posts means comments about older women wearing bikinis or short shorts or other revealing clothing. I'm 45 and I wear all those things. BECAUSE I WANT TO.

I'm sorry you have such a straightjacketed brain.

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I'm petite with narrow shoulders and all these styles look absolutely awful on me.

But I can find things to wear, and I do.

[Anonymous]

The Hill House/Tuckernuck frilly dresses would only look good on a 10 year old.