Stanford bringing back legacy preference and test required

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

that is changing fast. late-90s t10/ivy grad, ORM who was on a lot of aid: about 40% of my school was nonwhite then and only 40% is white since 2010. We and our later 90s cohort have almost all already have sent at least one off. Many of us stayed in the general DC to Boston region, others went to the bay area. At the sendoff party more than half the legacies were nonwhite. We have a lot of legacies in this region, about 1/3 of the big group were legacy though overall less than 15% of the incoming class is.. The white non-legacy were all recruited athletes. Maybe they are not admitting white legacies as often, but also based on alums who come to local things, the involved ones under a certain age are mostly nonwhite. I have attended these for 15 yrs and the shift the past 3 yrs has been noticeable.
A lot of us feel that legacy is just now starting to advantage non-whites &/or former low income kids like me. it is not fair to end a practice that is just beginning to help formerly disadvantaged groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Losers. Gotta keep those legacy donors happy lol!

Nothing says "meritocracy" than born on 3rd base.

Absurd. As a non-legacy family, if this was an option for us - or you - of course we’d happily take it.

Yes, but it is still unearned privilege.

[Anonymous]

They will end it when Asian just becomes the beneficiary of this preference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

that is changing fast. late-90s t10/ivy grad, ORM who was on a lot of aid: about 40% of my school was nonwhite then and only 40% is white since 2010. We and our later 90s cohort have almost all already have sent at least one off. Many of us stayed in the general DC to Boston region, others went to the bay area. At the sendoff party more than half the legacies were nonwhite. We have a lot of legacies in this region, about 1/3 of the big group were legacy though overall less than 15% of the incoming class is.. The white non-legacy were all recruited athletes. Maybe they are not admitting white legacies as often, but also based on alums who come to local things, the involved ones under a certain age are mostly nonwhite. I have attended these for 15 yrs and the shift the past 3 yrs has been noticeable.
A lot of us feel that legacy is just now starting to advantage non-whites &/or former low income kids like me. it is not fair to end a practice that is just beginning to help formerly disadvantaged groups.

Cite?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

that is changing fast. late-90s t10/ivy grad, ORM who was on a lot of aid: about 40% of my school was nonwhite then and only 40% is white since 2010. We and our later 90s cohort have almost all already have sent at least one off. Many of us stayed in the general DC to Boston region, others went to the bay area. At the sendoff party more than half the legacies were nonwhite. We have a lot of legacies in this region, about 1/3 of the big group were legacy though overall less than 15% of the incoming class is.. The white non-legacy were all recruited athletes. Maybe they are not admitting white legacies as often, but also based on alums who come to local things, the involved ones under a certain age are mostly nonwhite. I have attended these for 15 yrs and the shift the past 3 yrs has been noticeable.
A lot of us feel that legacy is just now starting to advantage non-whites &/or former low income kids like me. it is not fair to end a practice that is just beginning to help formerly disadvantaged groups.

Except this isn’t what’s happening. You need to read the following book written by a Harvard grad: https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/11/01/evan-manderys-poison-ivy-takes-americas-elite-colleges-to-task/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will end it when Asian just becomes the beneficiary of this preference.

Absolutely!

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Anonymous wrote:What SAT score does Stanford expect?

Look at pre-Covid common data set from 2018 or 2019.

I want someone to tell me. Someone always knows this here.

For enrolled students, 1440-1530 for 25th-75th percentile, ACT 32-35.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

From the perspective of an active alumnus, this is a huge relief. College admissions have become so competitive, it has become almost random. The legacies are every bit as qualified on paper as the other admitted students but they aren't subject to the same RNG in the admissions process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are they struggling for money or something? I don't see why these multibillion dollar institutions need legacy admissions. If you have the money to pull weight for legacy, your child doesn't need legacy for admission, they have every other advantage in the book

Stanford is laying off people. They are struggling for money. Donors cut back sharply with the loss of legacy.

That is not what the data shows.

Johns Hopkins stopped legacy preferences and their donations did not suffer noticable.

I think people hold onto legacy preferences because they don't want to mess with the formula.

32% of the incoming class of 2027 at harvard was legacy. THIRTY TWO PERCENT!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will end it when Asian just becomes the beneficiary of this preference.

It's not so much that legacy preferences will stop when it starts to benefit asians, it will stop when it stops benefitting whites because it is benefitting asians.

[Anonymous]

Exactly, the kids in my DC's class who had legacy/faculty preference (one got into Brown the other to Stanford) were top stats students with lots of EC's highly qualified. Is it fair that they face much easier odds? Maybe not, but that is not the same as being underqualified and getting in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the perspective of an active alumnus, this is a huge relief. College admissions have become so competitive, it has become almost random. The legacies are every bit as qualified on paper as the other admitted students but they aren't subject to the same RNG in the admissions process.

Cite?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They will end it when Asian just becomes the beneficiary of this preference.

It's not so much that legacy preferences will stop when it starts to benefit asians, it will stop when it stops benefitting whites because it is benefitting asians.

+1

It's all about maintaining white privilege.

Asians are just pawns in the game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

Uh, do you even know what the demographics of Stanford undergraduates have been for the last few decades?

Most of the legacies that I know who have gotten into Stanford in recent years are Asian.