Stanford bringing back legacy preference and test required

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Legacy tend to be just as qualified on testing and GPA. I’m using old data, but it makes sense. As a person who attended a top college, I now understand how being a legacy helps kids perform better. For example, my kids are studying for the SAT, while my husband and I just took the test. We encourage our kids to develop relationships with teachers and seek extra help when necessary. Non-legacies may not understand the smarts are necessary but not sufficient to outperform their peers.


I am not a legacy but an immigrant and even I know this. Frankly, some of the legacy kids I see at my kids private are not the smartest kids but everyone knows they have a leg up when it comes to admissions. That is nothing to be proud of.
Anonymous
What SAT score does Stanford expect?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What SAT score does Stanford expect?


Look at pre-Covid common data set from 2018 or 2019.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What SAT score does Stanford expect?


Look at pre-Covid common data set from 2018 or 2019.


I want someone to tell me. Someone always knows this here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What SAT score does Stanford expect?


Look at pre-Covid common data set from 2018 or 2019.


I want someone to tell me. Someone always knows this here.


For enrolled students, 1440-1530 for 25th-75th percentile, ACT 32-35.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What SAT score does Stanford expect?


Look at pre-Covid common data set from 2018 or 2019.


I want someone to tell me. Someone always knows this here.


For enrolled students, 1440-1530 for 25th-75th percentile, ACT 32-35.


And I would assume recruited athletes are bringing down the numbers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What SAT score does Stanford expect?


Look at pre-Covid common data set from 2018 or 2019.


I want someone to tell me. Someone always knows this here.


For enrolled students, 1440-1530 for 25th-75th percentile, ACT 32-35.


And I would assume recruited athletes are bringing down the numbers.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What SAT score does Stanford expect?


Look at pre-Covid common data set from 2018 or 2019.


I want someone to tell me. Someone always knows this here.


For enrolled students, 1440-1530 for 25th-75th percentile, ACT 32-35.


And I would assume recruited athletes are bringing down the numbers.


Legacy too if they admit dumb legacy kids
Anonymous
Good. Sanity is beginning to return to higher education.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What SAT score does Stanford expect?


Look at pre-Covid common data set from 2018 or 2019.


I want someone to tell me. Someone always knows this here.


For enrolled students, 1440-1530 for 25th-75th percentile, ACT 32-35.


And I would assume recruited athletes are bringing down the numbers.


Legacy too if they admit dumb legacy kids

Nice try. Legacies come from families with more money and SAT scores are positively correlated with wealth.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The legacy isn't new either- basically they are just turning down State grant funding so they don't have to comply with the California legacy prohibition


Wait until the lawsuit. If diversity can’t be considered neither can legacy preference. That’s not merit.


Selecting or discriminating by race or national origin is illegal under federal rights law.

Legacy is not illegal under civil rights law

Apples and oranges.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are they struggling for money or something? I don't see why these multibillion dollar institutions need legacy admissions. If you have the money to pull weight for legacy, your child doesn't need legacy for admission, they have every other advantage in the book


Schools like stanford returning to merit admissions and ditching that ridiculous test optional trend just makes sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Would it count for my kids if my brother went there?


No.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Legacy tend to be just as qualified on testing and GPA. I’m using old data, but it makes sense. As a person who attended a top college, I now understand how being a legacy helps kids perform better. For example, my kids are studying for the SAT, while my husband and I just took the test. We encourage our kids to develop relationships with teachers and seek extra help when necessary. Non-legacies may not understand the smarts are necessary but not sufficient to outperform their peers.


I am fine if a college wants to consider legacy but this post sounds silly. Believe it or not, even parents that did not go to standford understand the need for SAT prep.


Yeah, but my husband was 1st gen and my family didn't go to fancy schools. My college counselor encouraged me to apply to HBCUs even thought I ended up being a NMSF in the 1990s. My parents encouraged me to apply to my state school even though I had top grades. They didn't know what it took to get admitted to HYPMS. If my parents had gone through the admissions process, I can definitively say I would have had a leg up.

The internet has democraticized prep and admissions, so maybe the lack of having parents who tell a student that it is necessary to "prep" sounds silly to you, but that was my and my husband's reality. Sorry I didn't grow up privileged like you!


This was almost everyone in the 90s. I was at a very good public school but my parents were first in their families to go to college and went to a regional branch of the state school system.

I honestly don’t know anyone who did an SAT prep course - don’t think studying for it was really a thing back then. Maybe I reviewed my vocab words from English class?
Everyone does not need to go Ivy.


Our schools counselor had us work on the "water is to wet as ______ is to dry" type problems.

We only took it once, unless we were close to the score for the automatic state sponsored full ride, then we took it a 2nd time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Legacy tend to be just as qualified on testing and GPA. I’m using old data, but it makes sense. As a person who attended a top college, I now understand how being a legacy helps kids perform better. For example, my kids are studying for the SAT, while my husband and I just took the test. We encourage our kids to develop relationships with teachers and seek extra help when necessary. Non-legacies may not understand the smarts are necessary but not sufficient to outperform their peers.


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